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backbone

Newton, WV

#1 Aug 29, 2007
I think there is something illegel about a company that comes in here from Mingo County to operate the Head Start program and puts long time proven, qualificated and degreed employees out of work.
I don't believe the federal governmemt intented for the Mingo Community Action Partnership,Inc. to come into McDowell County and put long term employees out of work or offer them a lower job classification with much lower pay.
Not right

Bluefield, WV

#2 Aug 29, 2007
I agree, it is not right. I don't understand what they are getting out of this, unless of course they are sticking the money they cut from the employees in their pocket. I'd like to know who they think will replace these workers that have had to go out and find better paying jobs to make up for their paycut.
backbone

Newton, WV

#3 Aug 29, 2007
I hear most of head start drivers,by the way, who have CDL's were offered way less than the job is worth. These drivers can most likely get a job with the local Board of Education for more money,
even as a sub driver for the board they would make more money

Since: Apr 07

Princeton, WV

#4 Aug 29, 2007
I have only just heard about this going on, I knew Mingo had taken over but I know longer for HS and have not for a few yrs'. The people that I worked with are such good and caring people. Most do not see it as a job or a paycheck but they truly love working with children, as it should be. From what I have heard they are no longer requiring substitutes to help when a teacher or asst teacher is off and the same for the janitorial staff. One driver has already quit from my understanding and I do not blame them, this is bar far the worst thing to do with our county HS. They are losing the best people to have ever worked for them.
Some of this may not be the approximate way things are going on as I said this is just what I was told by a few I know.
backbone

Newton, WV

#5 Aug 29, 2007
almost all drivers has been forced not to accept their jobs.Mingo County did not rehire any janitors. They are insisting that teachers and aides will clean the building in the 1 hour they have after the children leave at 3. How can they affectly do this and keep up with the work they do with the children . and, they also will be bus aides as well with out pay for the extra hours they are on the bus.

Since: Apr 07

Princeton, WV

#6 Aug 29, 2007
backbone wrote:
almost all drivers has been forced not to accept their jobs.Mingo County did not rehire any janitors. They are insisting that teachers and aides will clean the building in the 1 hour they have after the children leave at 3. How can they affectly do this and keep up with the work they do with the children . and, they also will be bus aides as well with out pay for the extra hours they are on the bus.
That is the most ridiculas thing I have ever heard of! I worked for HS a few yrs ago and decided not to go back when it changed over the first time, now I know I wouldnt! These people have been with HS for many yrs and there has to be something that can be done. I know for a fact that the teachers and the asst teacher cannot do all of that in the one hour they have left plus the all they have to do for the next days class. Those driver deserve more pay not less, what happened to make this change with Mingo Cnty? Did no one else want to take over McDowell Cnty?
mello

Bluefield, WV

#7 Aug 29, 2007
Well, if you looked at the other surrounding counties, the above is how it is done. There is just simply not enough monies in HS to condone janitors or extra bus aides. The other surrounding counties (Raleigh, Mercer, Wyoming, Mingo) have done this for years. Maybe these are the reasons why McDowell could not operate the budget efficiently. Yes it is harder and more work, but you can only do what your budget allows you to do. Drivers and teachers do deserve more pay, but you have to work within the budget guidelines that the feds give you or else you lose the program. I wish that McDowell would of figured this out on their own so that another county would not had to take over.
backbone

Newton, WV

#8 Aug 29, 2007
the governerment needs to bring our boys and girls home from iraq and give this program more money so their professional staff can act like a professional and give the children of this county the chance they desirve. As it is the staff are making less money than the families they work for.
ballsofsteel

Northfork, WV

#9 Aug 29, 2007
The only one making any sense is the ones that quit, i know for a fact that the headstart program is a 1.9 million dollar program now, it used to be a 3.9 million dollar program, but people tend to stick their hands where they don't belong.... If Mingo county doesn't take a longer look at the program and dig a little deeper in the funding the HS program will be history
ballsofsteel

Northfork, WV

#10 Aug 29, 2007
hey mello, you don't know what the hell you are talking about so....shut up!
ballsofsteel

Northfork, WV

#11 Aug 29, 2007
what the hell makes you such an expert....you from mingo co.
ballsofsteel

Northfork, WV

#12 Aug 29, 2007
McDowell county would have taken care of its own if the dam politicians would have backed off...its all politics in this county
mello

Bluefield, WV

#13 Aug 29, 2007
ballsofsteel wrote:
The only one making any sense is the ones that quit, i know for a fact that the headstart program is a 1.9 million dollar program now, it used to be a 3.9 million dollar program, but people tend to stick their hands where they don't belong.... If Mingo county doesn't take a longer look at the program and dig a little deeper in the funding the HS program will be history
True, it is 1.9 million which sounds like a lot of money and would be in your own personal life; however, in a business sense this is not enough money to run the program especially now that the feds want the HS teachers to be certified teachers; therefore, you help pay for their education and then you have to compete with the local board of educations. The money just isn't there to do everything the way it use to be done. Times have changed.
mello

Bluefield, WV

#14 Aug 29, 2007
ballsofsteel wrote:
what the hell makes you such an expert....you from mingo co.
Maybe the education and life experiences that I have make me an expert because I do know A LOT about the HS program and I am from McDowell
mello

Bluefield, WV

#15 Aug 29, 2007
ballsofsteel wrote:
McDowell county would have taken care of its own if the dam politicians would have backed off...its all politics in this county
There is a lot of politices in the county, I agree with that, but it had nothing to do with why McDowell lost the HS program.
hardatwork

Bryans Road, MD

#16 Aug 29, 2007
well as far as taken care of the funds, the teaching staff, drivrs and janitors had no hand in that.most of the mcdowell county hs teachers have degrees and worked very hard to get them, they have kept that pay scale for years even when cdi stepped in, it isn't fair for someone from another county to step in and go back to working in the sixties like hs use to do, no cooks, no bus drivers..come on even churches have janitors
we live in mcdowell county not mingo, the bus routes are not neighbor to neighbor, they are seperated up to an hour apart, these drivers deserve the pay they were getting they are putting precious children lives in their hands,i think mingo co. saw what a wonderful program mcdowell has and couldn't take the heat and has decided to get rid of the hs..why lay off teachers with degrees and keep those without come on..hs paid these teachers through school...why lay them off..doesn't it require teachers and aides to get degrees, so why hire non degreed teachers to waste money training more..thats dumb
mello

Bluefield, WV

#17 Aug 29, 2007
hardatwork wrote:
well as far as taken care of the funds, the teaching staff, drivrs and janitors had no hand in that.most of the mcdowell county hs teachers have degrees and worked very hard to get them, they have kept that pay scale for years even when cdi stepped in, it isn't fair for someone from another county to step in and go back to working in the sixties like hs use to do, no cooks, no bus drivers..come on even churches have janitors
we live in mcdowell county not mingo, the bus routes are not neighbor to neighbor, they are seperated up to an hour apart, these drivers deserve the pay they were getting they are putting precious children lives in their hands,i think mingo co. saw what a wonderful program mcdowell has and couldn't take the heat and has decided to get rid of the hs..why lay off teachers with degrees and keep those without come on..hs paid these teachers through school...why lay them off..doesn't it require teachers and aides to get degrees, so why hire non degreed teachers to waste money training more..thats dumb
No, the teachers, etc did not have a direct hand in the funds, but when funds are not accounted for correctly, it affects the whole program which includes the teachers, ect. Like I said before, there is not enought money in the program to condone high pay for personnel and have janitors, etc. Only a % of the teachers have to have degrees but they all have to have their CDA's if not a bachelor's degree in teaching. McDowell lost the grant which is very unfortunate. If a surrounding county did not bid on the McDowell grant, McDowell could of lost the program completely and that would be horrible. Mingo must be doing something right in their program for the Feds to award them another county. This county will be a learning experience for them.
backbone

Newton, WV

#18 Aug 29, 2007
One of the biggest politicians in this county was in charge of this program and with his mismanangement is why this program is under mingo county now. NOW, HE'S in our state government and they put him incharge of one of their finance commettees. Boy, will they be sorry. But once again, we all suffer because of it.
backbone

Newton, WV

#19 Aug 29, 2007
hardatwork wrote:
well as far as taken care of the funds, the teaching staff, drivrs and janitors had no hand in that.most of the mcdowell county hs teachers have degrees and worked very hard to get them, they have kept that pay scale for years even when cdi stepped in, it isn't fair for someone from another county to step in and go back to working in the sixties like hs use to do, no cooks, no bus drivers..come on even churches have janitors
we live in mcdowell county not mingo, the bus routes are not neighbor to neighbor, they are seperated up to an hour apart, these drivers deserve the pay they were getting they are putting precious children lives in their hands,i think mingo co. saw what a wonderful program mcdowell has and couldn't take the heat and has decided to get rid of the hs..why lay off teachers with degrees and keep those without come on..hs paid these teachers through school...why lay them off..doesn't it require teachers and aides to get degrees, so why hire non degreed teachers to waste money training more..thats dumb
AMAN to that hardatwork
hardatwork

Bryans Road, MD

#20 Aug 29, 2007
well, it looks as if mingo county will be the one with a learning experience, because they are losing all of their staff, kids are going on a waiting list, parents are very unhappy, the program is for the family and children, with no drivers to pick these children up, there will be no hs. WAY TO GO MINGO COUNTY
now what have they done right
and by the way what happened with mingo's ex. director.. no longer in program? uh

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