yea woo hoo

Clay, WV

#102 Mar 23, 2009
i heard that they was going to close the doors for a week or two when they take over just to get there bosses familar with the strips and the deep mines and the haul roads but there saying that he is not for the union that he said that before he bought it but lets face it union has almost become a thing of the past i know the local has seem to side with the company more and more the past few years it seems like we pay and pay but when its time for them to do there job they got alot of red tape bull why they cant do this or that when it boils down to it most of them are paid off and they dont want to piss the company off....i hope they keep it union and that they start sticking up for men more.....but i highly doubt it this day in age........
wondering

Clay, WV

#103 Mar 24, 2009
I doubt anything will change, those men working for them couldn't be so lucky. Everything is a secret, they won't even tell their workers anything. SAD.. SAD...SAD..
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#104 Mar 24, 2009
they are so many people saying a lot of negative stuff about bluestone on here.if some of you are not happy with them go somewere else,they owe you nothing you all should thank them and have the highest respect for the management there.alot of time we blame other people and companys for our problems,why because it seems easyer to have someone to blame for our actions.a company must make money to continue to work and if they dont they cannot keep it open they must idle it and run the jobs that do make money.life is all about choices so make good ones,best of luck to all
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#105 Mar 24, 2009
mining depends on coal quality to help some of you under stand how it works ,certain buyers want differnt kinds of coal at differnt times these are known as coal orders ,and supply and demand.coal operators must meet a certain tonage each month and when not met they lose this to another compamy.i have worked jobs before when the men there would not lift a hand to help meet a order and wonder why they got laid off.i was raised if you take care of your job it will take care of you.try it sometime we the people have the power to make it or brake it so to speek.when we get laid off we as workers have lost our job them as companys have lost millions,so beleave me they dont want to shut down no mines no where.they must continue to pay the state and federal even though it dont run ,when we get laid off we draw unemployment which they pay also.so is it that bad
To Ironman

Rupert, WV

#106 Mar 25, 2009
Ironman, Bluestone DOES owe their workers something in return for what the workers owe Bluestone. Respect. It's a sembiotic relationship. The workers make a living not only for themselves but also for the owners of Bluestone and Bluestone provides a job not only for the workers but also so they can make a VERY healthy livng. I think what most people are upset over is the lack of respect that is being afforded the workers. This buyout, for example, is being handled wrong. IF you work for the company, don't you think you have the right to know IF you are going to have a job once the business changes hands? In this economy, everyone is worried about the future-will they be able to feed their children once their savings run out? Just knowing that your company is bought out is scary enough. Not being worthy of hearing the details is just plain wrong. Bluestone has some really, really good workers. They deserve to be treated that way. And as far as Bluestone, I think their reputation speaks for itself. They DO fire people at the drop of a hat. They are notorious for NOT paying their bills when they can certainly afford to do so. And they are NOT being fair by keeping men who have worked so hard to keep the company going in the dark.
i think

Clay, WV

#107 Mar 25, 2009
I DONT THINK I OWE BLUESTONE OR J OR JIM SHIT THE LAST TIME I LOOKED ME AND MY TWO HANDS WAS THE ONES THAT PROVIDED FOR MY FAMILY ...SURE HE HAS THE EQUPIMENT AND THE COAL BUT WHAT IF HE DIDNT HAVE ALL OF US MEN THAT GET OUT HERE EVERY DAY IN THE SNOW AND THE RAIN TO MINE IT FOR HIM WHILE HE SETS AT HIS OFFICE OR HOME LET FACE IT ONE HAND WASHES THE OTHER HE NEEDS US AS MUCH AS WE NEED HIM AND I THINK THAT IF WE ARE WORKING FOR HIM AT LEAST HE CAN DO IS LET US KNOW WHATS GOING ON ARE WE GONA HAVE A JOB AFTER THAY TAKE OVER? ARE THEY GONA CLOSE IT WHAT NO ONE KNOWS Y BE CAUSE THE OWNER HIDING JUST LIKE HE HIDES FROM EVERYTHING ELSE ....
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#108 Mar 25, 2009
i think wrote:
I DONT THINK I OWE BLUESTONE OR J OR JIM SHIT THE LAST TIME I LOOKED ME AND MY TWO HANDS WAS THE ONES THAT PROVIDED FOR MY FAMILY ...SURE HE HAS THE EQUPIMENT AND THE COAL BUT WHAT IF HE DIDNT HAVE ALL OF US MEN THAT GET OUT HERE EVERY DAY IN THE SNOW AND THE RAIN TO MINE IT FOR HIM WHILE HE SETS AT HIS OFFICE OR HOME LET FACE IT ONE HAND WASHES THE OTHER HE NEEDS US AS MUCH AS WE NEED HIM AND I THINK THAT IF WE ARE WORKING FOR HIM AT LEAST HE CAN DO IS LET US KNOW WHATS GOING ON ARE WE GONA HAVE A JOB AFTER THAY TAKE OVER? ARE THEY GONA CLOSE IT WHAT NO ONE KNOWS Y BE CAUSE THE OWNER HIDING JUST LIKE HE HIDES FROM EVERYTHING ELSE ....
hmmmmm you dont owe them shit,your hands can take care of you.but yet you wonder about them saleing out sounds like you need them,if your state ment were true you wouldnt be worried about nothing ,because you could provide for your self.hiding hmmmmmm name just one owner that visits his jobs on a weekley basis no one but yet he hides,try this compare them to another company you will see they are in fact pritty good.2 months ago you could have picked any job you wanted for any company in the state but yet you stayed with them.why? o wait i no because they will be mining coal whaen noone else will be thats why.as far as the sale who in there right mind would give a milloin for a job and close it,noone could do that,have a wonderful day
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#109 Mar 25, 2009
To Ironman wrote:
Ironman, Bluestone DOES owe their workers something in return for what the workers owe Bluestone. Respect. It's a sembiotic relationship. The workers make a living not only for themselves but also for the owners of Bluestone and Bluestone provides a job not only for the workers but also so they can make a VERY healthy livng. I think what most people are upset over is the lack of respect that is being afforded the workers. This buyout, for example, is being handled wrong. IF you work for the company, don't you think you have the right to know IF you are going to have a job once the business changes hands? In this economy, everyone is worried about the future-will they be able to feed their children once their savings run out? Just knowing that your company is bought out is scary enough. Not being worthy of hearing the details is just plain wrong. Bluestone has some really, really good workers. They deserve to be treated that way. And as far as Bluestone, I think their reputation speaks for itself. They DO fire people at the drop of a hat. They are notorious for NOT paying their bills when they can certainly afford to do so. And they are NOT being fair by keeping men who have worked so hard to keep the company going in the dark.
respect hmmmm they pay you for a job as far as repect it goes 2 ways.firing people o yell thats true why though you left that out.lets see missing work,drugs,abuse of equipment,thats all i have seen how about you.paying bills hmmm this is all bull sht rumors so the contractors can keep it all for them selves,have you mised a pay day or judging on here say ,have a wonderful day
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#110 Mar 25, 2009
To Ironman wrote:
Ironman, Bluestone DOES owe their workers something in return for what the workers owe Bluestone. Respect. It's a sembiotic relationship. The workers make a living not only for themselves but also for the owners of Bluestone and Bluestone provides a job not only for the workers but also so they can make a VERY healthy livng. I think what most people are upset over is the lack of respect that is being afforded the workers. This buyout, for example, is being handled wrong. IF you work for the company, don't you think you have the right to know IF you are going to have a job once the business changes hands? In this economy, everyone is worried about the future-will they be able to feed their children once their savings run out? Just knowing that your company is bought out is scary enough. Not being worthy of hearing the details is just plain wrong. Bluestone has some really, really good workers. They deserve to be treated that way. And as far as Bluestone, I think their reputation speaks for itself. They DO fire people at the drop of a hat. They are notorious for NOT paying their bills when they can certainly afford to do so. And they are NOT being fair by keeping men who have worked so hard to keep the company going in the dark.
as fare as the good people they have i agree 100%they have some of the best in the buisness this is very true
iron man

Prestonsburg, KY

#111 Mar 25, 2009
Bluestone Strip wrote:
I still have a job... but the owner is a prick this is true... My guess is a couple of layoffs are coming but it shouldn't be many... Most, if not all, of Bluestone's jobs are union so if someone is low on seniority I would definitely keep my options open on other jobs... And whoever is worried about them selling out, don't be because odds are if they are sold the new owners will be better to their men then Bluestone Coal is anyways... Companies are sold because other companies plan to make ton's of money with them so it's no big deal really...
hmmmmm somewhat true
i think

Clay, WV

#112 Mar 25, 2009
The point I was trying to make was he should have the deciency to tell his workers whats going on not keep them in the dark..I know plenty of companies that the owner is there sometimes more than once a week.Most of the time he just flies over in his helicopter and doesn't stop.. J justice must be a friend of yours or you must be one of Bluestones sucks..If you know so much tell me how he can make a deal with a country on coal when the price is down and wiat till they send coal cars in and the price of coal goes up he sells the same coal to a different country and uses the first countries coal cars to send it to the other country..I guess that they had to sell cause j's dad has a full time job keeping him out of jail.. It's easy for you to say leave when you have 18 years with the union..Do you have that??? and sure i know a few companys that dont treat them like shit let try dick preservati there some body that you and your heros j and jim need to take notes from the whole time bluestone has been laying of people they been puting coal on the rail you want to know why because dick didnt piss his coal buyers off he would rather take a little loss and keep his mines and his worker going than to shut down and layoff ...and when he sold the guys knew a month or two before it happend and what to expect and guess what there still going strong hey i got his adress if you want to give it to them mybe they can still fix thing cause i sure know dick preservati can
To Ironman

Rupert, WV

#113 Mar 26, 2009
"It goes 2 ways" Ummmmm, yeah, that's kind of what I said when I said that they should each respect one another. However, I do need to admit that I put an 'e' where a 'y' belonged in the word 'symbiotic'. lol Of course, your writing is almost to the point of illiteracy so I hardly expect you to understand that I was SAYING not only should the men have respect for their employer BUT the employer should have respect for their men. And as for Bluestone not paying their BILLS-I said BILLS-not their men. They DO pay their men but it's a well-known fact that they don't pay their bills. IF you read the papers, you will note that the new buyers assumed quite a bit of debt when they bought the company. Repeating your mantra of "You should quit if you don't like it" doesn't make you correct. WHEN a person has a family, they put up with things they normally wouldn't stand for in order to provide. That doesn't mean they don't have a right to be treated with respect. Now YOU have a good day.
iron man wrote:
<quoted text>respect hmmmm they pay you for a job as far as repect it goes 2 ways.firing people o yell thats true why though you left that out.lets see missing work,drugs,abuse of equipment,thats all i have seen how about you.paying bills hmmm this is all bull sht rumors so the contractors can keep it all for them selves,have you mised a pay day or judging on here say ,have a wonderful day
i think

Clay, WV

#114 Mar 26, 2009
i agree with you on your post to iron man when you have a family you will take a lot of crap to keep a job and it is a two way street on the respect issue but it seems like no matter how much respect you try to show or how hard you work they don't want to show their workers any respect..and if memory severs me right the new company took on 138 million in debt that number could be higher so correct me if i'm wrong I will admit any error..lol..
I agree

Rupert, WV

#115 Mar 26, 2009
I agree with you, I think, it was well over 100 million dollars of debt. I think that Ironman is incapable of seeing the point of view of people who simply want what everyone deserves-recognition for a job well done and the courtesy of abating some of their fears. Why in the world Bluestone thinks it's acceptable to sell a company that the workers helped make so successful without letting them know that their jobs are secure let alone without a thank you is beyond me. And why someone can't see that is beyond me. Talking to Ironman is like trying to describe the color blue to a person who has never seen in color. He doesn't get that the workers aren't grateful for their jobs. Of course they are! But, they have a right to be upset that all their information is coming in the form of rumor when the company should call a meeting and say "Look guys, you're in for some changes and these are the changes.........."
sad shame

Princeton, WV

#116 Mar 26, 2009
The bottom line is they treat their men like CRAP ...no incentives,no bonuses,no thankyous..true we are blessed to have jobs some people arent so lucky but as someone said before 1 hand washes the other...your crew or workers are the life line to the coal mines if you treat them fair they will return the favor
God bless!!
Smarty

Webster Springs, WV

#117 Mar 27, 2009
The hell with Bluestone there the reason i am without a job they would rather go buy a new helicopter for their baby boy JAY to ride around in then pay the men who is making them billionaires.They will pay their men but lord help you if your a contracter,Bluestone can kiss were the sun dont shine for all I care.
Insider

Meadow Bridge, WV

#118 Mar 28, 2009
Yes Bluestone has the worst upper management you could ever ask for... kL is the most sorry sack of sh_t i have ever known and Tom L will hit hell wide open. Man claims to be a man of god!!! Wake-up people i've heard him say words that would make satan cover his ears.. Yes Blestone is a place to work and thats all it is if you have to work. Good Day!
i think

Princeton, WV

#119 Mar 28, 2009
well guys i heard today from a pretty relible source that perry rider and his daughter and kenny lambert all were going to tenn with jay the only kicker is that the agreement was the new company they want preacher tom to be the ceo of the company for at least 2 years after the take over if thats true will still be up to our necks in bullshit .....
Insider

Meadow Bridge, WV

#120 Mar 29, 2009
You are Correct! They are going to buy that good preacher his on ride in the sky also... Its going around that the Russia Company will idle all the operations they purchased from Bluestone until the price of coal goes back up... Who Knows lets ask the preacher he dont lie... Ha Ha.. He is the Biggest Lier in the world!!! Sorry TL If you go to heaven I will bust the gates wide open and every other SOB will too.
Insider

Meadow Bridge, WV

#121 Mar 29, 2009
Maybe KL will get the rest of his toes cut off in tenn. He almost flooded the whole town of Pineville when he mined under the US Steel slurry pond and that would have got ugly if the inspectors would have not cought him.. He is a big pile of crap.. I would not piss down his throat if his guts was on fire..

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