Truth

Welch, WV

#203 Apr 15, 2009
Well let's be honest. Some of you are on here complaining that your husband's overtime was cut. Think about those who have NO job at all. I am sure that they would love to be able to work cut back hours. Times are a lot harder for those without work.
amen

Princeton, WV

#204 Apr 15, 2009
I thank GOD my husbands working they may not be the best and thats what I tell him when he complains about how dirty they are but we still have a payday coming in...and I have FAITH everything will work out for everyone and things pick up ....GOD BLESS!!!
I hardly think

Lerona, WV

#205 Apr 16, 2009
think that people are 'complaining' about overtime being cut. I think people are discussing the fact that yes, they are grateful that there is some money coming in HOWEVER, losing the equivalent of a house/car payment combined is HARD and they are coming on here to see if anyone has heard anything because the basis of this thread was 'The company has been bought-now what?" There's been very little information from the company itself and people are hoping that others will have some VALID and accurate information to share. No one is negating the fact that they're far better off than those who have no work at all, but again, they have a right to voice their fears and concerns without being made to feel selfish or ungrateful.
wondering

United States

#206 Apr 16, 2009
Some of them has got to work the last two Saturdays, does anybody know if they are going to get to work this one?
Yes

Lerona, WV

#207 Apr 16, 2009
They are going to work on the strip near Pineville this Saturday.
i think

United States

#208 Apr 16, 2009
i heard today that the new company was going to shut down all the union jobs for one year if the workers didnt agree to go non union shit if thats true will all be screwed cause they can work you how ever many hours they want and for what ever pay they want like if they only want to pay you 10.00 a hour that what youll get and that preacher tom was going to be presadent for one year after the take over i cant stand his ass now i know i wont be able if its non union.......
To I think

Humble, TX

#209 Apr 17, 2009
I don't think the new owners can just ask the workers to go non-union. Doesn't the mine have to be shut down for a year and a day and then re-open as non-union? I also heard that Tom Lusk was going to run it but I heard for two years.
Also, has anyone heard that Jay was asking for the rosters at all the mines? I wonder what's that's about?

Since: Oct 08

Beaver, WV

#210 Apr 17, 2009
So, Bluestone is union? or are you talking about Cliffs?
Yes

Humble, TX

#211 Apr 17, 2009
Bluestone is union

Since: Oct 08

Beaver, WV

#212 Apr 17, 2009
I have heard rumors too about CLiffs wanting to go nonunion. I think it is STUPID......The union might not be the same as it used to, but right now i am glad that my bf worked for a union mines because he still has insurance for a year and when you get laid off they have to call you back before they hire a new person. There is so MUCH GOOD in the union ......heck some do complain about the pay not being as good but your PROTECTED more and Miners DESERVE THAT!

I heard today too.....about Bluestone that they were going to lay off everyone and then hire them back but at a lot lesser pay, like $15 an hour......that was said today at a local gas station, so it's 50 50 true probably........

We coalmining families just need to STICK TOGETHER during this time and us women need to be strong for our men. IT's going to be hard for them to get another job if so many are laying off now......

TRUST IN GOD.........and things will SOON HOPEFULLY TURN AROUND
Yes

Humble, TX

#213 Apr 17, 2009
I think until the new owners take over, we are just going to have to sit tight and see what happens. Obviously, Jay Justice isn't going to do the decent thing and let his workers know what they can expect so rumors are going to keep up with no real knowledge until it the transfer takes place. As for laying the men off and then hiring them back at $15.00 per hour, does anyone know if that's possible? Like I said before, I had always heard that in order for a union mine to go non-union they had to cease all operations for at least a year.
Just Shut Up

Mooresville, NC

#214 Apr 17, 2009
Jay Justice doesn't actually own Bluestone Coal Corporation as he is just a servant of the real owner Ms. Sherry Ryder. Keep it under your hat though!
wanda

Lorton, VA

#215 Apr 17, 2009
You know in one way I see why everyone is complaining!!!!!!!!!!And then i dont I would love a job making $10.00 an hour!!!!!!!!!!I work for alot less.
AN ACTUAL EMPLOYEE

Beckley, WV

#216 Apr 17, 2009
first, to shut down a job and re-open non-union is possible but.... it has to be after the current contract is up which isn't until 2011.. also it has to be shut-down for atleast a year and a day.... think of it this way if you have already put down 425 mill on a 5 billion dollar investment would you want to risk not being able to sell your product in a year? The coal market right now is pure trash, trust me , these guys will suck these jobs dry of any profit possible for awhile to come... of course this depends on the government crackdowns and regulations that are going to happen and they will affect us ALL... I promise you.... hopefully we all will survive this drought and the industry will go up like it once was.... P.S] no ryder owns bluestone and jay may be thinking of numbers... but we have all took paycuts to keep all of us employed and we are still working which i feel extremely grateful and lucky for....
AN ACTUAL EMPLOYEE

Beckley, WV

#217 Apr 17, 2009
and also ... jay wanted the rosters to even out the shifts and have the same number of men on each.... this is to increase production on the shifts with lesser men.... they have told us they are doing these things to keep men and their jobs....
thanks

Humble, TX

#218 Apr 17, 2009
for the information, actual employee. Not only do you make sense, but you do it in a way that doesn't evoke fear. It's bad enough worrying about what WILL happen without having all these doomsday scenarios that have no proof behind them being tossed about. So, am I clear in understanding that you believe what I have said all along and that is that surely the new owners wouldn't have sunk that kind of money into a business only to shut it down for a year.
Wanda, I am not in any way being disrespectful when I say this but once you start making money like these workers do, ANY cut is hard. NOT because they waste their money but because they DARED to believe that it was safe to buy a house and a car and now they owe payments on these things that a paycut or a layoff will make really hard to keep up with. If you made 10 dollars an hour, you'd probably live within your means. So do most miners. It's just that when their 'means' get cut, they have it rough just like a ten buck an hour person would if they lost their job.
wanda

Lorton, VA

#219 Apr 18, 2009
thanks wrote:
for the information, actual employee. Not only do you make sense, but you do it in a way that doesn't evoke fear. It's bad enough worrying about what WILL happen without having all these doomsday scenarios that have no proof behind them being tossed about. So, am I clear in understanding that you believe what I have said all along and that is that surely the new owners wouldn't have sunk that kind of money into a business only to shut it down for a year.
Wanda, I am not in any way being disrespectful when I say this but once you start making money like these workers do, ANY cut is hard. NOT because they waste their money but because they DARED to believe that it was safe to buy a house and a car and now they owe payments on these things that a paycut or a layoff will make really hard to keep up with. If you made 10 dollars an hour, you'd probably live within your means. So do most miners. It's just that when their 'means' get cut, they have it rough just like a ten buck an hour person would if they lost their job.
Thanks for the info,UNDERSTOOD completly.

“Its all about me!!!”

Since: Apr 09

Redneck Heaven

#220 Apr 18, 2009
me and my husband were out today and someone that works over at the mines told us that the sell out was bull dont know how true wish i did even though he drives a coal truck he can still be layed off and this is such and good job it is close to home and his boss is a real good guy to work for WISH SOMEONE OUT THERE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON this sit back and not really know anything is hard

“Its all about me!!!”

Since: Apr 09

Redneck Heaven

#221 Apr 18, 2009
Just Shut Up wrote:
Jay Justice doesn't actually own Bluestone Coal Corporation as he is just a servant of the real owner Ms. Sherry Ryder. Keep it under your hat though!
she is a strip bosses daughter she tells trucks where to go and what they need to work things like that she is NOT the owner and Jay does own Bluestone dont know where you heard that from but need to rethink
To truck drivers wife

Humble, TX

#222 Apr 19, 2009
I'm pretty sure it is definitely sold. It's been in the papers both here and in Russia.

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