Situation critical

There are 19 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from May 24, 2011, titled Situation critical. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

The Otero County Commission has passed a resolution declaring an emergency in the county due to extreme drought, high fire conditions and the Mayhill Fire.

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Since: May 08

Tularosa, NM

#1 May 24, 2011
Just what is Mr. Rardin proposing, martial law?
heelerman

United States

#2 May 24, 2011
Gee, kind of points up the value of large grazers and logging. Oh well it's "natural".
whatever

Alamogordo, NM

#3 May 24, 2011
dog_canyon wrote:
Just what is Mr. Rardin proposing, martial law?
No, he just thinks he can and the county can run/operate the national forest as a county department. Perhaps he and the commission should concentrate on county business and let the Forest Service do their job.

Since: Sep 08

Alamogordo, NM

#4 May 24, 2011
Would of been nice if the reporter for this story, and the editor of this newspaper might of thought the readers might like to know what the plan is.

Have they forgot the basic questions that start with the letter W.
whatever

Alamogordo, NM

#5 May 24, 2011
Land Locked Sailor wrote:
Would of been nice if the reporter for this story, and the editor of this newspaper might of thought the readers might like to know what the plan is.
Have they forgot the basic questions that start with the letter W.
The plan is a quixotic misadventure of ridding the county of the BLM, FS, USDA and any other federal agency that doesn't fit into the commissions belief that the federal government is the cause of all our problems.
concerned citizen

Alamogordo, NM

#6 May 24, 2011
The federal govt is the cause. the mayhill fire basiclly went out when it got to the indian reservation because they properly maintain their forests. Our forests are so overgrown that mother nature is thinning them for us with fire. We need to take matters into our own hands since the federal govt can not seem to get the job done
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
The plan is a quixotic misadventure of ridding the county of the BLM, FS, USDA and any other federal agency that doesn't fit into the commissions belief that the federal government is the cause of all our problems.
Uncle Fred

Cloudcroft, NM

#7 May 24, 2011
concerned citizen wrote:
The federal govt is the cause. the mayhill fire basiclly went out when it got to the indian reservation because they properly maintain their forests. Our forests are so overgrown that mother nature is thinning them for us with fire. We need to take matters into our own hands since the federal govt can not seem to get the job done<quoted text>
reservation because they properly maintain their forests I'm not sure about this one....lol
whatever

Alamogordo, NM

#8 May 24, 2011
concerned citizen wrote:
The federal govt is the cause. the mayhill fire basiclly went out when it got to the indian reservation because they properly maintain their forests. Our forests are so overgrown that mother nature is thinning them for us with fire. We need to take matters into our own hands since the federal govt can not seem to get the job done<quoted text>
And you think the county can do a better job? How high do you want our local taxes taxes to go? The feds may not be perfect, but the county has neither the personnel nor the expertise to manage the forest. They, the county, have a hard enough time managing what it is they are suppose to manage. Perhaps the commissioners should make a more concerted effort coordinating with the various federal agencies that operate in Otero County, instead of puffing up and acting like immature twits.

Since: Sep 08

Alamogordo, NM

#9 May 24, 2011
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
The plan is a quixotic misadventure of ridding the county of the BLM, FS, USDA and any other federal agency that doesn't fit into the commissions belief that the federal government is the cause of all our problems.
So again, i see plenty of words, but no plan, Once the governor declares an emergency, then they will create a plan, sounds like Pelosi that we have to pass the bill to see what's in it...

Why do the county commissioners just say we are going to open logging up of all dead trees, and thin out the forests around the communities in the forest...

Now if this does get approval, what stops the county from starting a fire with all the machinery, trucks, people that could be up there?
Janet White

United States

#10 May 24, 2011
The Resolution is signed and available under Commission Agendas: http://www.co.otero.nm.us/
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#11 May 24, 2011
Here is some information on the guy who drew up the plan. Pre-settlement restoration.
http://evergreenmagazine.com/magazine/article...

Since: Sep 08

Alamogordo, NM

#13 May 24, 2011
Michael Morris wrote:
Here is some information on the guy who drew up the plan. Pre-settlement restoration.
http://evergreenmagazine.com/magazine/article...
Good article, and lots of information that makes things clearer, Guess the indians with there mill got it right by accident or $$$$, seems the right approach.

Now lets watch the government red tape and rules get involved even with a resolution and a governor disaster still will be slow.
I would guess

Santa Fe, NM

#14 May 24, 2011
I would guess this will involve getting federal funds. It's interesting that our gov't leaders here are such conservatives (especially with finances) until they want some money from the Feds. Did any of the CITIZENS benefit in any way from the 'emergency declaration' that was made after the severe freeze in February? Does anyone know what happened to the money that was received?
Den-Mark

Sparta, MO

#15 May 25, 2011
If the county tries to do anythinh in the forest, the treehuggers will be on them, like stink on poo!
They will file lawsuits faster than Speedy Gonzalis
and some green Judge will stop everything DEAD!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#16 May 25, 2011
Those are federal lands administered by federal funding.

Otero County can "declare" "resolute" whatever -- this se NM county does not have enough money to ensure water lines are repaired or that roads are paved...

so, how are "they" going to secure funding to "thin out the forest" due to drought and fire conditions?

Dr. Garrett has "all" the answers? Guess what - did anyone hear/read/see a "final plan" with this answer(s) to all environmental questions of how to manage a forest?

I think not. Give up, already -- there are "NO" 5,000 jobs waiting in the wings, folks -- it's all "blah, blah, blah" from a man who riles folks up and present "fine conversation" as he seeks federal office in Washington, D.C.

Wake up and smell the burning lowlands -- not the forest!
getthefacts

Alamogordo, NM

#17 May 25, 2011
concerned citizen wrote:
The federal govt is the cause. the mayhill fire basiclly went out when it got to the indian reservation because they properly maintain their forests. Our forests are so overgrown that mother nature is thinning them for us with fire. We need to take matters into our own hands since the federal govt can not seem to get the job done<quoted text>
Get your facts straight before listening to the mob, avoid spreading false rumours. The fire never reached the reservation, it blew out to the NE grass and shrubland area. Mother nature DOES take care of its own and it does thin itself out. The difference is that mother nature is helped along by humans as this fire was started by power lines, not lightening.

“Get over yourself...”

Since: Jan 08

You're not that important

#18 May 25, 2011
Ok, this sounds just like people who live in areas where flooding, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, etc. are prevalent. We live in a desert. For as long as I can remember, we have been in drought or near drought conditions. Find a way to deal with it. Take lessons from other parts of the world that face similar conditions. But, please, quit expecting the government to make things better.
informed

Cloudcroft, NM

#19 May 25, 2011
Uncle Fred wrote:
<quoted text>
reservation because they properly maintain their forests I'm not sure about this one....lol
The forest has thinned and prescribed burn the majority of the Mayhill Fire. Get your facts ground verified! It burned through the tribe, but they also put a dozer line on the tribe to stop it, again get your facts straight! Also when it hit the tribe, the winds and the veg type changed. The county does not want to work with the Forest Service, they want to tell them what a handfull of individuals think you should happen with resource management. Thinning the forest, reduces severity, but it does not stop fire from occuring. Nothing would have stopped the Mayhill Fire those first couple of days because of the drought conditions and severe winds. But again, several thinning and prescribed burning projects took place, along with past wild fires. And it still took off. These county guys are using this opportunity to push their states right agenda across. Its not going to go anywhere. Federal law trumps the state.
One Question

Lawrence, MA

#20 May 25, 2011
What's in it for Ronny?

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