Targeting toll lanes to catch cheats

There are 14 comments on the Jun 21, 2011, Star Tribune story titled Targeting toll lanes to catch cheats. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

"The cheaters have matured,'' a trooper says, as Minnesotans adapt to electronic tolls.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#85 Jun 29, 2011
Jeff T in MPLS wrote:
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It is not a win/win.
More tax revenues into a state that already wants to spend more than it takes in is a recipie for additional fiscal issues.
Congestion is a function of timing. Maybe the real answer lies, gasp, in the private sector and allowing more people to work from home as an reward for hitting their workplace objectives?
i won't hit my workplace objectives if i just operate my streetsweeper at my house.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#86 Jun 29, 2011
Browne wrote:
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How many of them are government workers?
In my family? None.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#87 Jun 29, 2011
LeDumbo wrote:
<quoted text>Buses work great because if you miss one, you can catch the next one. Don't tell me what my argument was, its there in print, carpooling doesn't work very well for most white collar workers(unless they are state employees). My argument was that schedules vary for salaried people based on the work that they have to accomplish that day, and the workload can change without notice. There were usually several times a year I would get to work and be told to catch the 10 am flight out to fix a problem in one of our plants. A carpool would have left me SOL.
yet carpools work great for the many people that have set hours, and many of them are in the private sector.

“Get RIGHT or be left”

Since: Nov 07

www.dreamindemon.com

#88 Jun 29, 2011
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i won't hit my workplace objectives if i just operate my streetsweeper at my house.
True...

...not every job translates well into that situation.

But some do.

Of course, if you were to drive your street sweeper home at night....

Since: Jul 08

Saint Paul, MN

#89 Jun 29, 2011
pauline 2 wrote:
Toll lanes, LTR so many ways to lower the cost of highway building. too bad they did not build it right in the first place.
In 1970 they knew how the traffic was going to expand, Where the expansions would be placed. yet they did not make the roads big enough when it would have been easy to make 6 lanes each way not two. planned obsolescence. The cities are honeycombed with caves yet they did not build a sub way, yet ford has mined silica under ST Paul for 80 years. One of the best sources of glass.
If it works in other cities it would have here. LTR stand in cold and rain for a train that runs on fixed tracks, A subway would have cut traffic, cut the blight we see every day on the roads. and if there are emergencies like tornados or bombs in a war a place to survive.
Minnesota nice N' stupid.
ford has not mined sand since the 1930s there, they mined for less then 10 yrs.

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#90 Jun 29, 2011
pauline 2 wrote:
...too bad they did not build it right in the first place.
... A subway would have cut traffic, cut the blight we see every day on the roads. and if there are emergencies like tornados or bombs in a war a place to survive.
Minnesota nice N' stupid.
I hear you. I read an article in the Stribune years ago (no link) that stated that when the Metro-area freeways first opened, they were AT CAPACITY on Day One. No wonder there is massive congestion, when these highways were underbuilt at the beginning.

Subways work well in other areas. Given the caterwauling over some modest light rail -- can you imagine the outcry over a proposal to build NYC-style subways? Conservatives would have been foaming at the mouth (not that some aren't right now).
Consistent

Saint Joseph, MN

#91 Jun 29, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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I hear you. I read an article in the Stribune years ago (no link) that stated that when the Metro-area freeways first opened, they were AT CAPACITY on Day One. No wonder there is massive congestion, when these highways were underbuilt at the beginning.
Subways work well in other areas. Given the caterwauling over some modest light rail -- can you imagine the outcry over a proposal to build NYC-style subways? Conservatives would have been foaming at the mouth (not that some aren't right now).
I always wanted to live in and raise future workers in a 26 story concrete bunker that has elevators and people movers which will transport me and mine down to the bowels of the earth where we could shuffle with the sheeple onto a subway or train for transport to the "work" that we were selected to perform by some Government Class employee.

What a dream society we would have.....fools!

“Sustainability Now!”

Since: May 08

Vadnais Heights

#92 Jun 29, 2011
jw in the grove wrote:
<quoted text>ford has not mined sand since the 1930s there, they mined for less then 10 yrs.
Details, details.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#93 Jun 30, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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Details, details.
Right, don't confuse me with the details, I have already made my point Ha Ha!! Nice work Madaman!
Nothing but job security

Minneapolis, MN

#94 Jun 30, 2011
These toll roads called MnPASS are nothing more than job security for State Troopers.

More stuff for the overpaid Gestapo. Remember outstate Troopers don't even work the third shift. When a serious wreck occurs outstate the Sheriff deputies call the Trooper responsible for the highway and he/she then writes up the wreck.

You know the Troopers need their beauty rest, a good looking person looks good in their fancy uniforms.

This stuff cannot be made up!

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#97 Jun 30, 2011
Madaman wrote:
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I hear you. I read an article in the Stribune years ago (no link) that stated that when the Metro-area freeways first opened, they were AT CAPACITY on Day One. No wonder there is massive congestion, when these highways were underbuilt at the beginning.
Subways work well in other areas. Given the caterwauling over some modest light rail -- can you imagine the outcry over a proposal to build NYC-style subways? Conservatives would have been foaming at the mouth (not that some aren't right now).
Depends on who gets the contract. If its the Koch bros. it would pass.

No corruption
around here, Nah..

When I moved tot he TC in 73 I found that the 610 off ramp for 35W was already installed. Its well over 40 years old. the corridor was already purchased and Plans in hand. funny how they waited for the cost to go out of this world so construction companies would make a fortune.
Consistent

Saint Joseph, MN

#98 Jun 30, 2011
pauline 2 wrote:
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Depends on who gets the contract. If its the Koch bros. it would pass.
No corruption
around here, Nah..
When I moved tot he TC in 73 I found that the 610 off ramp for 35W was already installed. Its well over 40 years old. the corridor was already purchased and Plans in hand. funny how they waited for the cost to go out of this world so construction companies would make a fortune.
Yes those construction companies that have their profit contractualy limited by the Government, that pay Union Scale to their employees, and provide one of the few real benefits derived from taxpayer wealth via Government redistibution, are all conspiring to get you, and Madman.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#99 Jun 30, 2011
pauline 2 wrote:
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Depends on who gets the contract. If its the Koch bros. it would pass.
No corruption
around here, Nah..
When I moved tot he TC in 73 I found that the 610 off ramp for 35W was already installed. Its well over 40 years old. the corridor was already purchased and Plans in hand. funny how they waited for the cost to go out of this world so construction companies would make a fortune.
Who waited? the Construction company? I don't follow, what am I missing?
Agreed

Plymouth, MN

#100 Jun 30, 2011
Nothing but job security wrote:
These toll roads called MnPASS are nothing more than job security for State Troopers.
More stuff for the overpaid Gestapo. Remember outstate Troopers don't even work the third shift. When a serious wreck occurs outstate the Sheriff deputies call the Trooper responsible for the highway and he/she then writes up the wreck.
You know the Troopers need their beauty rest, a good looking person looks good in their fancy uniforms.
This stuff cannot be made up!
Ya and then they end up pulling over more people for violating the MnPASS lane which causes MORE delays in traffic while they are pulled over.

You know the law requires vehicle to slow OR change lanes when passing a COP pulled over by the side of the road.

IMHO the law should be written so when being pulled over by a COP you must drive to the next exit off the freeway and pull over on a low MPH side road.

NOT ON THE PHOCKING FREEWAY!!!

Minnesota the brainpower state NOT!!!

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