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#23506 Feb 19, 2013
A nation's choice between spending on military defense and spending on civilian goods has often been posed as "guns versus butter." But understanding the choices of many nations' political leaders might be helped by examining the contrast between their runaway spending on pensions while skimping on military defense.
Huge pensions for retired government workers can be found from small municipalities to national governments on both sides of the Atlantic. There is a reason. For elected officials, pensions are virtually the ideal thing to spend money on, politically speaking. Many kinds of spending of the taxpayers' money win votes from the recipients. But raising taxes to pay for this spending loses votes from the taxpayers. Pensions offer a way out of this dilemma for politicians.
Creating pensions that offer generous retirement benefits wins votes in the present by promising spending in the future. Promises cost nothing in the short run -- and elections are held in the short run, long before the pensions are due.
By contrast, private insurance companies that sell annuities are forced by law to set aside enough assets to cover the cost of the annuities they have promised to pay. But nobody can force the government to do that -- and most governments do not.
This means that it is only a matter of time before pensions are due to be paid and there is not enough money set aside to pay for them. This applies to Social Security and other government pensions here, as well as to all sorts of pensions in other countries overseas.
Eventually, the truth will come out that there is just not enough money in the till to pay what retirees were promised. But eventually can be a long time.
A politician can win quite a few elections between now and eventually -- and be living in comfortable retirement by the time it is somebody else's problem to cope with the impossibility of paying retirees the pensions they were promised.
Inflating the currency and paying pensions in dollars that won't buy as much is just one of the ways for the government to seem to be keeping its promises, while in fact welshing on the deal.
From Dr. Thomas Sowell's column dated 2/19/13
#23507 Feb 19, 2013
Students at Springboro are not challenged. A school that challenges them is what these kids need. The union activists instead of thinking of the kids took community members and whipped them into a frenzy and brought them to a meeting where they shouted and ridiculed our school board for thinking of the kids first. Shame on these Babb and Bowman and Greenberg and Carlisle for doing the bidding if the union and telling people lies that a conversion school would hurt the kids. A conversion school would challenge these kids and they know it they just want the union to run education and a conversion school may not have to be run by the union. School choice is what we need. Let the money follow the kids and let schools compete for their business.
Shame on you people for hurting our kids just to please your friends and peers. You people embarrass this town with your divisive behaviors
#23508 Feb 19, 2013
Where was this published?
#23509 Feb 19, 2013
Where was this published?
#23510 Feb 19, 2013
Signals, You are dead wrong. You need to get your facts straight. maybe a little soap in the mouth also.
#23511 Feb 19, 2013
I would be more worried about colleges not accepting PSEO credits.
#23512 Feb 19, 2013
So according to Just Watching your children were failing. However, they scored very well on the ACT and got in to the colleges they chose. Doesn't seem like failing to me!
#23513 Feb 19, 2013
Information in the above informative and encouraging article by Ben Velderman was found on the website: EAGnews.org
(This comment at the end are word Thank You added and should be repeated often throughout our school district/community).
....and this is just the beginning ...
Thank you, Mrs. Kohls, Mr. Petroni, Mr. Rigano
#23514 Feb 19, 2013
Given the latest news from Michigan regarding the passing of Right to Work legislation in that state it is encouraging to know that Ohio is right behind them. No longer should teachers be coerced into to participating in an organization that contradicts many teachers moral convictions. See links below. Forced unionism is a Marxist philosophy and has no place in Springboro. Yes a teacher can opt out but must still pay a large portion of the Membership dues. How about giving the teachers the ability to opt and an pay nothing.
The Pro Union thugs that attend your meetings undermine and interfere with the Board's efforts of promoting fiscally responsible Pro Student/tax Payer initiatives. The noise they make always leads back to whats best for the teachers union interests with little concern for the Student or the Tax payer. Please understand I am thankful for the many great teachers in Springboro, its the Union who we have issues with.
Please do not cave to their Thug Tactics, the Community is behind you and appreciate your efforts to be fiscally responsible. Unelected Union Sympathizers have no platform to constantly harass the BOE members as they are neither Staff nor Union Members. As Union puppets their only purpose is create division and discontentment within the Schools and Community.
The best thing that can happen is to make Right to Work a Law here in Ohio and it is coming. http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2012/12/1...
Check out what the NEA/Teachers Union stands for regarding Homosexuality, Liberal and Christian viewpoints. In my opinion Teachers Unions are like affirmative action, they force employers to compensate groups of individuals based on the demands of the group rather than individual performance/contributions. It is insulting to individual liberty and personal responsibility and is basically a legal form of extortion. Do we reakky want organizations with these kinds of radical agendas shaping our schools ideology?
See the links below and youll realize what were dealing with:
Thank you for your efforts,
#23515 Feb 19, 2013
From the Ohio Department of Education website
Do courses taken in the postsecondary education options program count toward the Diploma with Honors?
Yes. Diploma with Honors rules specifically allow for postsecondary options to count toward Diploma with Honors credit. Caution: Check with the school to determine how PSEO units are calculated.
Odd that you would need to check with your particular school in regards to how PSEO units are calculated. If it is state mandated, would not the Ohio Department of Education be aware of that fact?
#23516 Feb 19, 2013
Each college that participates in the PSEO program has a link to a nationwide data base that cross checks whether or not the course you are taking will be accepted by the institution you wish to attend.
Perhaps this will assuage your heartfelt concern.
#23517 Feb 19, 2013
The woman does not mention whether or not her children took the test but one time or many? Did they take any ACT prep classes like the one Mr. Rigano had added to the course of study at the high school?
Graduating Proficient leaves a lot to be desired educationally, and the OGT is only a test that measures what the child learned in grades 1-9. The range of correct answers a child must produce on the test to be rated Proficient range from 41%-63% in reading. Less than 2/3 of the material mastered to be at the top end of Proficient? Hardly a reason to shout from the roof tops.
Children can get their act together on their own from their sophomore through senior year.
Anecdotal tales placed anonymously on a blog are hardly conclusive of anything.
Verifiable, documented facts and sources provide a much greater basis for rational conclusions than stories written for a blog.
#23518 Feb 19, 2013
Tiffin, Ohio not a bad job of reporting by this newspaper. Who, what, when, where, and how rather than an interjection of the reporter's personal biases.
Now let me know what you disagree with and why.
And don't forget to document your source rebuttal material to make your argument more enjoyable.
#23519 Feb 19, 2013
First off, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think most parents are going to make the decision of AP class vs. PSEO based on this percentage grade different.
The bigger question is why are upper level high school classes weighted the way they are? If a student is willing and able to take the higher level courses then they should accept the grade they get - why should they get 10 extra points added to their grades? If you are so against the "Proficient" definition of the OGT and other tests, then you should be against this type of weighting. Kind of hypocritical don't you think?
#23520 Feb 19, 2013
The real hypocrites are educators and politicans who greedily trumpet more money invested in preschool education is getting the most bang for the buck.
These hypocrites promoting "blessings for the least of these" from the false gods of universal preschool are nothing nothing more than union minded worshippers of the false doctrine; preaching that a child will be more competitive in the future global workplace; IF only the Teachers Union can stamp a "dollar per pupil" sign on the
precious little one's forehead, straight from the womb and into a taxpayer-funded public schools classroom with a "union" teacher.
#23521 Feb 19, 2013
The reason for weighting of classes is that some classes are much easier to take than others.
Grades determine your GPA and thus one's class standing. According to Mr. Malone, colleges put great stock into a student's GPA and class standing.
Comparing an A garnered in a basic algebra class and an A one earned in a calculus class is not quite the same. Much like different professions pay more money for more prep work up front, academic challenges should be rewarded the same way.
No one expects a MD who puts in 12+ years of rigorous study to be compensated in the same manner as a medical assistant who got their certification in 8-12 months. Academic challenges should be treated in the same manner.
I don't believe it is hypocritical to ask that we not accept ratings that say if you get 32% of the material correct we will deem you a PROFICIENT student in math in the 7th grade. The fact that less than 1/3 of the material mastered makes a student proficient is absolutely absurd.
#23522 Feb 19, 2013
my-oh-my thou protestest too much in defense of the has been a SHS principal for 12 years, but why?
Our overwhelmingly vague principal could only defend his status quo tunnel vision with his severely misguided reply that our high school students were just so happy loving their high school experience and favorite teachers, they just had no desire to leave the high school campus for a higher achievement college course.
Now there's the real loser of "higher principles."
#23523 Feb 19, 2013
Education in Springboro is All About Being Informed; and Staying Engaged in doing what's right for our school children and community. Our current board and district leadership is providing more transparency in our school district's finances and opening direct communication from our children's classrooms into the homes of parents and community members than ever before.
This really is an exciting time for our school board, district leadership, parents and students, and all community members to work together supporting our district's new philosophy of "children first budgeting."
If you are new to the "blogging" scene, don't be taken in by the paid bowman bloggers badmouthing our good neighbors and board representatives (whose accomplishments since 2010 have been greater for our kids' education than previous "status quo" board leadership). If you want real, unbiased answers to your questions about education in Springboro, then you can go to this website and ask a board member and learn the truth:
#23525 Feb 19, 2013
Here's something to forward to friends and neighbors around the Boro...
Springboro schools is in good company. Last year, Ohio graded close to 2/3 of it's public school districts either "Excellent" or "Excellent with Distinction".
If (the majority) of Ohio's schools are that good, why do the best jobs continue to leave Ohio?
Looking at the entire U.S., what kind of changes must be implemented so that America's children can successfully compete with other nations around the globe?
#23526 Feb 19, 2013
Why? It's nonsense.
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