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double ought seven eleven

Charlotte, NC

#1 Nov 13, 2012
Well the party elite are not dumb. They are just trying to hold the right wing religous crowd in check so they will turn out and vote and then go back to sleep.
Didnt work this time on a national scale. Worked well in local races.
Republicans arnt dumb but some of the preacherly followers out in the rural areas are gullable.
zorg

United States

#2 Nov 13, 2012
I don't play the party gig but will trash either if I think they're wayyyyy off base.

The Repubs have a problem with how they approach elections and it became evident in the last 2 presidential races. Basically, things have changed and the party hasn't. They will have to adapt in order to continue to be a force in politics. Also they are going to have to reign in the more rabid neo-conservative individuals. You can get what you want without all the poisonous attacks.

The Dems had this problem some years back. Very fragmanted. Couldn't hit their butts with both hands.

I somewhat have the raw rump with both parties just now with the way each is stonewalling each other at our expense by holding us hostage. These 2 six year olds need (and ultimately will) have to play together.
Honesty

United States

#3 Nov 15, 2012
zorg wrote:
I don't play the party gig but will trash either if I think they're wayyyyy off base.
The Repubs have a problem with how they approach elections and it became evident in the last 2 presidential races. Basically, things have changed and the party hasn't. They will have to adapt in order to continue to be a force in politics. Also they are going to have to reign in the more rabid neo-conservative individuals. You can get what you want without all the poisonous attacks.
The Dems had this problem some years back. Very fragmanted. Couldn't hit their butts with both hands.
I somewhat have the raw rump with both parties just now with the way each is stonewalling each other at our expense by holding us hostage. These 2 six year olds need (and ultimately will) have to play together.
I listened to a Free will baptist preacher sunday morning. He made it sound like obamma was the to start abortion and was the sole reason for abortions. Best I remember it started in 1973 before that preacher was born. I dont think the rebublicans or preachers have ever said or done anything about it except at election time. What gives???
So wrong

United States

#4 Nov 15, 2012
That church brand is so wrong. Ive heard last sunday that and God is judging New York for all their gays by sending the Superstorm. God cant be that redneck, vindictive and unfriendly.
Abortion

United States

#5 Nov 15, 2012
double ought seven eleven wrote:
Well the party elite are not dumb. They are just trying to hold the right wing religous crowd in check so they will turn out and vote and then go back to sleep.
Didnt work this time on a national scale. Worked well in local races.
Republicans arnt dumb but some of the preacherly followers out in the rural areas are gullable.
If the Rebublicans (Christians) really cared about Abortion or domestic violence or social ethics. How could Scott Desjaruis be supported or elected. He had been elected twice with a history of domestic violence with his 1st wife and then a couple mistress and abortion problems. Kinda like Cant see the Sin for the money.
Torrent

Saint George, UT

#6 Nov 15, 2012
So wrong wrote:
That church brand is so wrong. Ive heard last sunday that and God is judging New York for all their gays by sending the Superstorm. God cant be that redneck, vindictive and unfriendly.
Always backward people making those claims.....everything that comes along is punishment for something.
Master Link

United States

#7 Nov 16, 2012
Hey zorg, where ya been so long??
I thought you might have already seceded or something. lol

Need to keep politics out of the church and vice versa. That was what was meant by separation of the church and state. Neither one should dictate to the other.
zorg

United States

#8 Nov 16, 2012
Been piddling around. Dodging the political b.s. mostly. Like there was a real choice.... riiiight.

You know what's going to happen. Gridlock. Renewing the tax cut will fail. It's engineered to. That way the gubment gets the increased tax revenues, the wealthy keeps their loopholes, each party will blame the other, and neither gets the reputation for raising taxes.

Brilliant concept. And the best part is most people will believe one side or the other.
Backwards compatible

Hamer, SC

#9 Nov 16, 2012
Torrent wrote:
<quoted text>Always backward people making those claims.....everything that comes along is punishment for something.
Yes very true.
BUT I hear it a lot.
so either many or most free wills are really stupid or they get dumb advise and never question it. I see many as just getting advise from dumb republican party players.
seth

United States

#10 Nov 16, 2012
zorg wrote:
Been piddling around. Dodging the political b.s. mostly. Like there was a real choice.... riiiight.
You know what's going to happen. Gridlock. Renewing the tax cut will fail. It's engineered to. That way the gubment gets the increased tax revenues, the wealthy keeps their loopholes, each party will blame the other, and neither gets the reputation for raising taxes.
Brilliant concept. And the best part is most people will believe one side or the other.
You're right about the gridlock, heard on conservative talk radio today some republicans bragging about how they were not going to work with obama.
What happened with the good ole american way? Where each party was to do the will of the people.
The repub party scares me now, they are begining to talk like they would favor a dictatorship, as long as it were republican.
I cant belive I once was a member of this party, never again will I vote republican.
They are now downing romney, distanceing themselves from him, yet just a few days ago they were trying to put this man in the whitehouse. Whats strange about that picture? LOL
Torrent

Saint George, UT

#13 Nov 16, 2012
If the GOP doesn't play ball this go round it may be curtains for them in future elections. The public knows what they are doing and will not accept much more of it .
Master Link

United States

#14 Nov 17, 2012
zorg - That IS interesting. I never thought of it like that. The other thing I find interesting is the number of businesses who happen to lean Repub, cutting staff or whatever, complaining of the cost of ObamaCare. Most of the extra cost would be the tax penalty for providing employee insurance. If their employees had insurance to begin with, the cost would be roughly the same with the exception of the usual yearly rise in healthcare costs. Compared to the rise in the last 10 years, healthcare costs have actually slowed down.

Are that many people really against the working class of folks getting any breaks? Makes me wonder and not really surprised there is beginning to be a class rift in this country. I really feel for the young folks trying to get started with life in these conditions.

Have a nice Saturday, you old geezer.
So Fake

Charlotte, NC

#15 Nov 17, 2012
Torrent wrote:
<quoted text>Always backward people making those claims.....everything that comes along is punishment for something.
Ive noticed when a tradegy strikes them its Satan attacking us. And when a superstorm or hurricane hits someone else its gods judging for sin.

Some kinda messed up church thinking.
Demons look christian but

Charlotte, NC

#16 Nov 17, 2012
seth wrote:
<quoted text>You're right about the gridlock, heard on conservative talk radio today some republicans bragging about how they were not going to work with obama.
What happened with the good ole american way? Where each party was to do the will of the people.
The repub party scares me now, they are begining to talk like they would favor a dictatorship, as long as it were republican.
I cant belive I once was a member of this party, never again will I vote republican.
They are now downing romney, distanceing themselves from him, yet just a few days ago they were trying to put this man in the whitehouse. Whats strange about that picture? LOL
Someone said this morning the republicans were like the legion of demons cast out of the man called legio thye went out and into a herd of pigs and the pigs dashed off a cliff.
Sounds like what these republicans are reying to do.
zorg

United States

#17 Nov 17, 2012
@ Demons.. The Repubs put out a lot money and propaganda as well as a lot of effort in the past couple of years to ensure that the President was only a one-termer. And it was a huge gamble. It failed.

They're a little bruised and disappointed right now. To the point that they're in-fighting and even riding Mitt's butt. Not exactly a class act and that means internal unrest.

I don't mind a good debate and discussion but gloating, if I do any, really does nobody any good.'Link' and I have lived through a number of elections now. I declare, they just keep getting dirtier, more blame and no solutions, etc. I don't care to be told what the problem is and who to blame - I already know that. I'm a lot more interested in the solution. If it's the wrong direction, regardless which side is proposing it, I'll call 'em on it.
Hates Ignorance

Butler, PA

#18 Nov 17, 2012
The GOP needs to step out of the FOX news/Rush Limpbrain bubble, and get a view of the REAL America. Then perhaps, they can take the necessary steps to move forward.

And NO, repeating the SAME tired, failed, message but in a more "comforting tone" is NOT the answer.

It's the message & policy that are the problem. Not the messenger, or the way he presnts them.
Hates Ignorance

Butler, PA

#19 Nov 17, 2012
Not that the mean spirited, angery way in which they speak helps much.
zorg

United States

#20 Nov 17, 2012
I can see making a 'slip' about the circumstances of rape once. But after that the mouth should have remained shut. It didn't. That was damage control.

The remark about the 47% didn't help either although I know what was implied. Only trouble was, the way it was said was curious.

The Dems had theirs too but less damaging (apparently). If the President was ineffectual or appeared not to get much done, the Repub stated objective to make him a one-termer by opposing his agenda at every turn seemed to come back to haunt them by John Q Public.

There is going to have to be some quick moves to catch up on what should have been done the last couple of years by DC to do what is best for the country in general and not for the parties.
That's only my opinion of course. Good Night.
zorg

United States

#21 Nov 17, 2012
@ Link - Who you calling an 'old geezer'???? LOL
Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, ain't it??
You didn't think I was going to let you get away with that did ya??? LMAO
Demons look christian but

Charlotte, NC

#22 Nov 17, 2012
Abortion wrote:
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If the Rebublicans (Christians) really cared about Abortion or domestic violence or social ethics. How could Scott Desjaruis be supported or elected. He had been elected twice with a history of domestic violence with his 1st wife and then a couple mistress and abortion problems. Kinda like Cant see the Sin for the money.
This dejarius has got to go. Its not the democrats making up stuff this is actual court records and settlements.

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