Central Wisconsin Lyme Issue
BadgerBrian

Oregon, WI

#21 Sep 3, 2009
Dear "ex patient,"
I'd would really love to hear more about your experience, but with more details please.

I get an itemized bill for every visit, from them and my insurance company, and everything is in order so far.

I don't buy any of my recommended supplements there, but would have no problem doing so--the only reason I don't is because I'm able to get them at cost through a friend of mine who has accounts with the supplement companies (he's a chiropractor).

Everything that is recommended at the Fox Valley Wellness Center I get a second opinion on through my family physician, and again, so far, so good.

If you have specific complaints about your experience at the FVWC "ex patient," I would seriously like to hear them, instead of an all-caps rant.

What were you there for?

Were you double-billed? Do you have proof of this?

Who's Barb?

Did you have specific incidents with the staff and/or nurses?

My experience has been a bit different than yours "ex patient"--after 10 years of having literally dozens of doctors and so-called health professionals poke & prod me, drain my wallet, then tell me such things as "There's nothing more we can do for you," or "Maybe it's stress," or "Maybe it's all in your head," Dr. Meress and his staff were the ones that took the time to listen to my issues, run tests that corresponded with my symptoms, and find out what was wrong with me.

You can't please everyone all the time "ex patient," but maybe if you could give us some specific examples of your experience there, you might be able to help me or others avoid a bad situation, if it exists.

Otherwise, your post just seems to me to be a rant that helps no one.

Take care,
Brian
Barb

Plymouth, WI

#22 Oct 10, 2009
ex patient wrote:
<quoted text>
THIS IS THE WORST LYME DOC IN THE WORLD!!!!! HE KNOWS ENOUGH TO FOOL YOU!! BARB WORKS IN HIS OFFICE!!HE WILL ROB YOU BLIND WITH HIS FEES AND OVER BILL YOU DOUBLE BILL YOU AND YOUR INSURANCE. ONLY WHEN YOU GET SICK OF PAYING $1000. A MONTH FOR SUPLAMENTS. HIS OFFICE STAFF ARE RUDE. NURSE'S HA ARE YOU KIDDING DID THEY TRAIN AT ED DEBEVICS. I AM WORRIED ABOUT ALL OF THE ELDERLY PEOPLE I SAW COME IN THERE WITH SUCH HOPE IN THERE EYE'S AND IV'S STUCK IN THERE POOR HANDS (THEY HAVE SUCH FRAGILE SKIN)FOR THERE "VITAMIN
DRIP" AND THERE POCKETS SO EMPTY WHEN THEY LEAVE.
THIS MAN HAS NO MORALS HE GOES AFTER ANYONE ANYTHING THAT PAYS THE BIG$$$$$ BUYER BE WERE
While I respect your opinion, and understand your frustration, I must point out your error. I made the post with Dr. Meress's name quite awhile ago, and no, I am not the Barb that works in his office. I am a former patient of Dr. Meress. I know he has done wonders for many, many sick people. I unfortunately did not get better after two years of alternative, and antibiotic treatment. I am horribly allergic to many of the best antibiotics for lyme treatment, and had to rely on herbal supplements for the basis of my treatment. I also did my research, and what Dr. Meress was recommending was exactly what other cutting edge lyme physicians were using in their practices. I do agree with you that the supplements (not covered by insurance) are quite pricey, and long term treatment can cost thousands of dollars. After two years of fighting with my insurance company to continue this frustrating process of trying to cure late stage chronic lyme disease, I gave up. Now I try and deal with all of the horrible symptoms that I have on my own. So before you go cutting this doctor down, give a little respect to one of the FEW lyme literate physicians in this state willing to take the heat and help very sick desperate patients.
referral

Milwaukee, WI

#23 Dec 7, 2009
ex patient wrote:
<quoted text>
THIS IS THE WORST LYME DOC IN THE WORLD!!!!! HE KNOWS ENOUGH TO FOOL YOU!! BARB WORKS IN HIS OFFICE!!HE WILL ROB YOU BLIND WITH HIS FEES AND OVER BILL YOU DOUBLE BILL YOU AND YOUR INSURANCE. ONLY WHEN YOU GET SICK OF PAYING $1000. A MONTH FOR SUPLAMENTS. HIS OFFICE STAFF ARE RUDE. NURSE'S HA ARE YOU KIDDING DID THEY TRAIN AT ED DEBEVICS. I AM WORRIED ABOUT ALL OF THE ELDERLY PEOPLE I SAW COME IN THERE WITH SUCH HOPE IN THERE EYE'S AND IV'S STUCK IN THERE POOR HANDS (THEY HAVE SUCH FRAGILE SKIN)FOR THERE "VITAMIN
DRIP" AND THERE POCKETS SO EMPTY WHEN THEY LEAVE.
THIS MAN HAS NO MORALS HE GOES AFTER ANYONE ANYTHING THAT PAYS THE BIG$$$$$ BUYER BE WERE
I have a patient that has been diagnosed with Lyme & was given this referral from a collegue. After reading your post & the one above that states they are taking 70 pills a day, I am skeptical to give my patient this referral. Is there anything else that you can tell me to help me make a decision?
Sue

United States

#24 Dec 29, 2009
Barb, I had similar problems with antibiotics... thought I was "allergic" but in fact what was happening is called a 'Herxheimer' effect. You feel worse before you feel better.
In the end, i 'pulsed' antibiotics two weeks on, two week off, for about five years. the improvement is nothing less than remarkable.
TheAB

Milwaukee, WI

#25 Dec 29, 2009
I did see the comment here about the Fox Valley Wellness Center prior to my first visit. I was concerned about the potential cost of Lyme disease treatment, and about the other issues the "ex patient" mentioned.
I have now been to see this doctor a few times. I felt it important to come back and mention that I have found the FVWC staff upfront and actually helpful when it comes to pricing. I can only speak from my experience, but, I did not notice any rudeness.
IALymie

Springfield, MO

#26 Jan 4, 2010
Thank you for your informative posts, especially those of you who are or were patients at Fox Valley Wellness Center. I am in your neighboring state and having a tough time finding a new doctor and the closest Lyme doctor is in Fon Du Lac. I've been wondering if it would be worth making an appointment with him. I have been diagnosed with Lyme Disease within the past 6 months and things are going well (not over it yet, though), but my doctor is leaving their practice, so I'm on my own! I believe I got Lyme Disease while on vacation in your fair state a number of years ago - dang, nice family vacation spot! What a trip this has been. If any of you are looking for more information on Lyme's or want to follow another forum, HealingWell is great and very informative.
IALymie

Springfield, MO

#27 Jan 4, 2010
TheAB wrote:
I did see the comment here about the Fox Valley Wellness Center prior to my first visit. I was concerned about the potential cost of Lyme disease treatment, and about the other issues the "ex patient" mentioned.
I have now been to see this doctor a few times. I felt it important to come back and mention that I have found the FVWC staff upfront and actually helpful when it comes to pricing. I can only speak from my experience, but, I did not notice any rudeness.
Hi, just curious how often this doctor (at Fox Valley Wellness Center) requires you to come in for appointments? I see that 'ex-patient' posted in Sept. and you had read the post prior to your first visit - it's the end of December and you say you've seen him a few times already. This makes me nervous. I've been contemplating making an appointment with him, but would really like to know what I'd be getting myself into. I have already been diagnosed, but my doctor is retiring, and since I'm still healing I need to find a new one, which is proving difficult to find one that won't break the bank and is "legit."
BadgerBrian

Madison, WI

#28 Jan 6, 2010
Dear IALymie,
I see the doc at Fox Valley in Fondy about every 2-3 months, to check progress, modify treatment, and provide feedback.

I cannot stress this enough--if you've been diagnosed with Lyme, get to a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD) as soon as possible!
The longer you have Lyme and possible co-infections, the harder they are to get rid of.
It took almost 10 years for me to get a correct diagnosis, and I am paying for it now--my symptoms started in March 1999, and no one could figure out what was going on, but now that I know, I've been being treated for almost a year, and I'm about to start two particularly nasty antibiotics that will make me feel much worse before I feel better, and if Lyme is caught early enough, sometimes you can get rid of it in as little as a month or two.

If your interested, please go back and read my previous posts about the Wellness Center, the doc and staff--the nurses are always very good about getting back to me with any questions I have.

Good luck & take care,
Brian
IALymie

Springfield, MO

#29 Jan 6, 2010
BadgerBrian wrote:
Dear IALymie,
I see the doc at Fox Valley in Fondy about every 2-3 months, to check progress, modify treatment, and provide feedback.
I cannot stress this enough--if you've been diagnosed with Lyme, get to a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD) as soon as possible!
The longer you have Lyme and possible co-infections, the harder they are to get rid of.
It took almost 10 years for me to get a correct diagnosis, and I am paying for it now--my symptoms started in March 1999, and no one could figure out what was going on, but now that I know, I've been being treated for almost a year, and I'm about to start two particularly nasty antibiotics that will make me feel much worse before I feel better, and if Lyme is caught early enough, sometimes you can get rid of it in as little as a month or two.
If your interested, please go back and read my previous posts about the Wellness Center, the doc and staff--the nurses are always very good about getting back to me with any questions I have.
Good luck & take care,
Brian
Thank you, Brian!
Scott in New London

Waupaca, WI

#30 Jan 12, 2010
I HAVE BEEN SEEING DR. MERESS SINCE MARCH OF 09'AT THAT TIME I COULD HARDLY WALK BEHIND A WALKER. IT IS NOW JANUARY 10' AND I AM NOT USING THE WALKER I STILL HAVE A LOT OF HEALING TO DO, BUT I AM HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IF IT WASN'T FOR DR. MERESS I MIGHT BE DEAD. ALL OTHER FAMILY DR.'S AND NEURO'S DON'T HAVE A FRICKIN CLUE ABOUT LYMES DISEASE AND HOW TO TREAT IT AND HOW LONG TO TREAT IT. TRUST ME I HAVE GOT IT ABOUT AS BAD AS IT CAN GET.
buddy442

Milwaukee, WI

#31 Feb 5, 2010
badger brian. please tell me how you are feeling now..... did this doctor help you? we have a doc who wants to try glutathione. not sure if she's trying that PLUS all the supplements. bottom line is this will cost me a mint and though i want to see if it works, i also want to know others who have success. did you get that blot test?

please reply. i need to know what to think.
BadgerBrian wrote:
Dear "Danter,"
Based on the date of this post, I hope you've already been (or are being treated) by a competent Lyme doc, but just in case...
I've had daily, monster headaches for 10 years, as well as various other maladies--chronic fatigue, sleep disturbances and insomnia, depression, carpal tunnel, and on & on.
After being seen & treated by many, many traditional doctors & specialists, as well as having my "energy fields" worked on, Healing Touch, acupuncture, and everything in between, a friend who was diagnosed with Lyme three years ago sent me to see Dr. Meress at the Fox Valley Wellness Center in Fond du Lac.
I'm based in Madison, but we've camped and now have a cabin near Eau Claire for 15 years, and that's where I think I picked the tick-borne illnesses.
After blood tests for Lyme and other co-infections, Dr. Meress found Lyme, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and San Jaoquin Valley Fever.
This diagnosis finally came after already being tested by my general practioner docs three times for Lyme, but all used the same test, which I found out was INcorrect 60% of the time.
So to make a long story short, I'm halfway through a three-month treatment of three antibiotics, combined with many vitamins and natural supplements--I'm currently taking almost 70 pills a day!
Meress believes that your body & immune system have to be brought up to it's maximum ability & balance to fight Lyme--for instance, some of my labs showed my body was deficient of Vitamin D, Zinc and other vitamins & minerals.
I cannot say if this will work, or that I'm feeling better--I'm not. In fact, some days I still feel horrible. However, I was told that when the Lyme die-off and are released into the bloodstream, the neurotoxins created by the die-off will make me feel rotten before I will start feeling better.
But what I do know for sure is that at least I now have a reason for why I've been suffering so much for the past decade, and that's a start to getting better--Meress is treating the cause instead of just the symptom.
Everyone is different, and everyone will have a different course of action, but like I said, it's a start...best of luck to you.
Take care,
Brian
<quoted text>
momofthree

United States

#32 Feb 17, 2010
Hello,
I saw Dr. Meress and found his staff to be very rude too. His PA does not like any questions asked and I was let go for asking for clarification on the diets (there are 5 which contradict each other in the welcome package) Will never recommend him or amnyone there.

Since: Jan 10

Madison, WI

#33 Mar 5, 2010
buddy442 wrote:
badger brian. please tell me how you are feeling now..... did this doctor help you? we have a doc who wants to try glutathione. not sure if she's trying that PLUS all the supplements. bottom line is this will cost me a mint and though i want to see if it works, i also want to know others who have success. did you get that blot test?
please reply. i need to know what to think.
<quoted text>
Hi Buddy,
Everyone who gets Lyme is affected differently, at least that's how I understand it--some folks have very few symptoms, and some can be physically and mentally crippled from it, and depending on the symptoms you show will depend on what treatment is recommended.

I have never heard of glutathione, so I don't know what to tell you.

I do understand spending a fortune for diagnosis and treatment, and that's mostly because insurance doesn't cover much of my Lyme treatment--if you're given anything besides antibiotics, it's usually not covered.

After a year of treatment, I still feel pretty rotten--fatigue and headaches, as well as mental fogginess keep me down, but it does look like we've killed one of the three tick-related co-infections I've been dealing with, and it is not uncommon for folks to be treated for over a year--again, the longer you have it, the harder it is to get rid of.

And yes, I had the western blot to test for Lyme.

If you're interested, I belong to a Yahoo group online that is made up of folks from Wisconsin who are dealing w/Lyme and other tick-related infections, and they can be a great source of information & support--here's the link--http://health.groups.yah oo.com/group/WisconsinLyme/.

Best of luck Buddy...
Brian
emmajane

Wausau, WI

#34 Apr 5, 2010
I contemplated going to Meress. They were good enough to get me in by Monday - and it was Friday when I made the appointment. The problem. They wanted $400.00 down-payment - and said the rest had to be paid on the day of the appointment. After looking at the fees, I figured it would be about $1000 with all the tests they recommend. When I called to ask about it - they told me that it i strongly recommended that I had to have these tests for a proper diagnosis. When I asked if I could do a few to start - the girl got very rude. I also would not give them my credit card info over the phone - so then they were very rude. I did some more digging and found that it is his way or the highway. Also - just so all know, I had a very good insurance plan.

I canceled my appointment for Monday because the attitudes were just not there and I got a bad feeling. I was told they were going to keep my money that I had put for a down payment! When I said I didn't give any money for a down payment - I was told he would not see me now unless I paid $1000 up front. Ridiculous! I wouldn't make an appointment there unless he was the last person on this earth - and I had won the lottery.
Tdogg

Oshkosh, WI

#35 Apr 6, 2010
Hi there. Interresting talk about Dr. Meress. My wife has Lymes. We originally went to Dr. Hoffmann in Waupaca. We were not pleased on how things were going with him so we started to see Dr. Meress. I have been with her to all the visits. The first visit cost us over $600. We felt very pressured to buy a basket of supplements and vitamins that cost near $300 intself. We were not really asked if we wanted them but it was more or less implied that we would buy them. Now three visits later he wants us to see his partner who is sort of a acupuncturist/chriropracter. This will be $200 and is not covered by insurance. I am becoming increasingly skeptical of the suppliment push and variety of "tests" that are not covered by our insurance. We are already into this Dr. for about $1500 out of our own pocket. I feel as though he is going to milk us for all we are worth. My wife still feels like crap. Does anyone have a Lymes Dr. that is not suppliment salesperson in the Fox Valley area?
emmajane

Wausau, WI

#36 Apr 7, 2010
That's kind of the predicament we are all in right? It really bites! From what I have heard with Meress is you have to put your foot down and say NO! But then it seems like he gets mad!

I think if you go on the WI/IL lyme group on face-book - they may have some answers. I go to Hoffman. He does not really do naturals, so I do a mix of abx and naturals that I have figured out for myself - about what works. I use MSM powder, Colloidal Silver, Fish oil tabs, Multi vitamin, Alka Selzter Gold for days when I have indulged in too much sugar, Milk thistle for the liver, Black Cohosh and vitamen B. I use Mag Oil and DMSO for the lower back pain - Eps. Salts baths and clay baths. Artmisnisin is supposed to help for the babs but it makes me throw up. So I take one Neem extract drop per day. If I hear anything in that area - I will post. Are you able and willing to travel? Also - I am doing the naturals - and abx!

Emmajane

Since: Apr 10

Oshkosh, WI

#37 Apr 7, 2010
Emmajane, We would consider travelling but would like to try a few more things here first. Do you know of any Dr.'s in other areas? I think we are going back to Dr. Hoffman. She did IV treatment through him but still did not feel better. Has anyone gone to the Mayo Clinic in MN? We thought they maybe able to help. We feel like we are spinning our wheels. What is the abx you are referring to? Is it a Rx? She is also wonering what the dmso is for back pain. She has alot of trouble with her back. Thanks for the info.

Tom
Emmajane

Wausau, WI

#38 Apr 7, 2010
Hi Tom,

Doc H is good and knows his stuff - he just is really busy! I have heard they call the Mayo - the Mayno as in DON'T GO! I have heard that on every listserve. You should not be upset (although it is natural right? We all want to get better immediately) because the IV didn't work. Some of us have been working on this for a few years. I myself while not healed and still in deep S*@t pain, am in less deep do pain, if you know what I mean. Most of the time. Because dif abx's hit different infections such as babs, erlich, bartonella and Lyme. I have been told that Lyme is the easiest to get rid of. I had a weird thing happen that interfered with my treatment - so....I am on cefdinir right now from doc. You have to kind of have a ton ton ton of patience! And educate yourselves! I don't really know anyone else in that area but have heard supposedly of a guy in the WI Dells area. I have not been to him though. I am not even sure of his name. How long has she had lyme?

Since: Apr 10

Oshkosh, WI

#39 Apr 9, 2010
Emmajane, she is not sure how long she has had lyme. We have been married 18 years and has had medical issues the entire time. Alot with fatigue and pain in a variety of areas. They did not detect lymes on the first test, but after doing research she insisted on the western blot test where she came back positive. I guess I am used to instant cures like when you have a bug or a diferent type of infection. You get a Rx , take the pills and your better. She made an appointement with Dr. H for a couple of weeks from now. We are done with Dr. Meress. It feels good just talking to people dealing with the same problems.
momofthree

Kaukauna, WI

#40 Apr 11, 2010
Please don't bother with Mayo Clinic. I went there before I knew what I had and they found nothing. I was sent home with pain killers and told to take them everyday. After I had an Igenex test and came back CDC positive for lyme I called my Mayo doctor, faxed him my results and he said there was no one there that could help me. They were willing to do more tests but did not have anyone who would treat my CDC positive Lyme.

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