Palm Bay moves to ban hiring of illicit immigrants

Full story: The Orlando Sentinel

An ordinance that would punish employers of illegal immigrants was approved on first reading Thursday night amid the support of most who spoke at an extended meeting -- even as some Hispanic- and ...

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Carol Fabiani

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Aug 4, 2006
 
I listened to the Palm Bay council meeting via internet and was proud of the American citizens who stood up for our great country. We are a country of laws and the illegal aliens and the employers who hire them, break our laws. Come to the United States legally, or stay in your own country and fight your government for better jobs. Thank you Mayor Mazziotti and the citizens of Palm Bay for taking a stand against illegal immigration.
Sherri

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Aug 4, 2006
 
Mayor Mazziotti voted against the ordinace. Please let him know how you feel
John Mazziotti, Mayor
mayor@palmbayflorida.org

Thank goodness the rest of the council understands what ILLEGAL means. Please send a big thanks to the following council members who voted for the ordinance
Deputy Mayor Pat Woodard
seat2@palmbayflorida.org

Ed Geier
seat3@palmbayflorida.org

Andy Anderson
seat4@palmbayflorida.org

Donna Brooks,
seat5@palmbayflorida.org

This is not over yet, a final reading and vote will take place later this month.
Carol Fabiani

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Aug 4, 2006
 
Sherri,

Thank you for correcting my mistake and for posting the names and emails of the Palm Bay City Council. Let's hope this ordinance passes on August 17th.
Tom

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Aug 4, 2006
 
Hi Sherri, Thanks for those e-mail addresses!

My wife and i are new residents of Palm Bay and proud to be citizens of one of the 1st cities who realizes it can help curb the flow of of these "ILLEGALS" ( we don't consider them "immigrants", they're just "ILLEGAL"!!) by holding the greedy employers who hire them accountable.

This is like "Field of Dreams" in reverse, haha. "Build it, they will come" Now it's, "No work for us ILLEGALS, we won't go")

And, YES, we sent letters of thanks to all the council persons who supported Andy Anderson's proposal for this ordinance and a stern letter of DISGUST to the lone dissenter, our Mayor(:(:

We can't wait til Election Day to cast our votes against him!!!!
Sherri

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Aug 4, 2006
 
Carol, Tom,
Floridians for Immigration Enforcement http://www.flimen.org/ is very involved with this matter and an excellent site for further info.

Tom,
I hope you and your wife will be at the next council meeting (8/17/06)for the final vote.

Sherri
ps. Carol maybe the police dept. could use your help.
Janet

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Aug 5, 2006
 
People need to sit down and think! Maybe the immigrants were out there after the hurricane, but for cheap, and they took away the jobs of the legals. Let's go to Mexico and ask Fox to give us all the amenities that we give the illegals. It won't happen!! That's a part of the reason we're in a deficit in Palm Bay!
Sherri

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Aug 5, 2006
 
www.FLIMEN.org



4-1 Win on Palm Bay Ordinance First Reading

On Thursday evening August 3, 2006 the Palm Bay Council voted 4-1 in favor of the Unlawful Business Practices ordinance 2006-80 on First Reading. The Second Reading (final) will be on August 17, 2006. The Council unanimously passed a resolution calling on the federal government to enforce immigration laws.

The Unlawful Business Practices Ordinance 2006-80 is a business regulation ordinance requiring licensees to hire only legal employees. The ordinance would prohibit unauthorized workers including minors, convicted sex offenders, convicted felons and illegal aliens.

There were about 27 speakers on the ordinance, with slightly more than half in favor. In favor speakers included David Caulkett of FLIMEN, Joyce Tarnow of Floridians for A Sustainable Population, Harold Poole of Citizens Against Illegal Aliens, Chris Farrell of Judicial Watch, and a large number of Palm Bay residents. Speaking against the ordinance were the Florida Commission on Human Relations, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, The Puerto Rican Legal Defense, United Third Bridge, ACLU (AKA Anti-American Civil Liberties Union) and a large number of pro-illegal immigration supporters.

The turn out at this meeting was far different than the previous Palm Bay Council meeting where there was an overflow crowd. Noticably lacking were the economic interests and the religious folks who were in full force in Avon Park but not Palm Bay. It is anticipated that the ordinance opponents, realizing the national implications, will gather a huge crowd for the Second Reading.

GOTV is the political campaign acronym for Get Out the Vote. FLIMEN's acronym for gathering supporters is GOWM (Get Out Warm Bodies). We worked hard for a good turnout and that was instrumental to passage. Other aspects critical to passage were an exceptionally well written ordinance, astute Council members, Palm Bay community support and the drive of the ordinance leader, Council Member Andy Anderson. Mr. Anderson described FLIMEN support as "awesome."

No doubt turnout at the Second Reading will be far different as the ordinance opponents are expected to pull out all stops against the ordinance. FLIMEN is attempting to form a larger coalition to include more Palm Bay residents, Veterans of Foreign War, American Legion, and trade union members. Your help in reaching these supporters is VITAL so if you have contacts with potential new supporters please contact them. If you can help please e-mail dave@flimen.org.
Anne

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Aug 5, 2006
 
Are we only talking about Mexican illegals here. What about all the fillipean illegals that jump cruise ships and live in Palm Bay, work earn money and get a free education. There have been Illigals coming here for years!!
Sherri

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Aug 6, 2006
 
Anne,
We are talking about all illegals.
"The ordinance, introduced by council member Andy Anderson, would make it unlawful for 'any business entity' to hire illegal immigrants. It would give code-enforcement officers the power to investigate cases and apply monetary penalties"

Edward,
You're 100% correct. I hope you will contact Floridians for Immigration Enforcement http://www.flimen.org/ to help get this Ordinance passed.
Your help in reaching supporters is VITAL so if you have contacts with potential new supporters please contact them. If you can help please e-mail dave@flimen.org.
Thanks,
Sherri
Harold

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Aug 11, 2006
 
ALL "Legal" Palm Bay residents,

Congratulations on taking the first step to securing your city, your economy & your jobs!
PLEASE remember to get out there for the Second Reading on 8/17/2006. I can guarantee you that it will seem like every "illegal" in the state of Florida will be there! And if you don't show up, you run the risk of having the Ordinance overturned.

I will be there in support, as I was for the First Reading. Although I am not a Palm Bay resident (Cape Coral), I feel strongly that Palm Bay can & will set the stage for the remainder of Florida & the U.S.A.

"Citizens against Illegal Aliens" stands with you!
Space Coast Libertarians

Titusville, FL

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Aug 16, 2006
 
Carol Fabiani wrote:
I listened to the Palm Bay council meeting via internet and was proud of the American citizens who stood up for our great country. We are a country of laws and the illegal aliens and the employers who hire them, break our laws. Come to the United States legally, or stay in your own country and fight your government for better jobs. Thank you Mayor Mazziotti and the citizens of Palm Bay for taking a stand against illegal immigration.
I'm not surprised that the Palm Bay City Council is for this so called illegal immigration ordinance. Andy Anderson is going to implement, and enforce an issue of this magnitude with code enforcement officers? What a joke. As soon as a Puerto Rican is asked to produce papers, the city will be guilty of profiling and will lose an expensive lawsuit, including damages. Palm Bay has massive traffic problems that will take years to correct, insufficient law enforcement to cover a city this size and a huge drop out rate among high school students. The council needs to get its priorities in order and this one isn't even in the top ten.
Jonathan Witerski

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Aug 18, 2006
 
I used to live in Palm Bay and I am glad that you are all standing up for this country and its citizens. Enough is enough. As far as illegals protesting the Palm Bay ordinance; propose an ordinance that allows police to apprehend and detain suspected illegal aliens, then see how may protest. Hmmm, maybe only Americans would be there to support it.
Bill Monroe

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Aug 27, 2006
 
I noticed how the Space Coast Libertarians produces a "red herring" in introducing Palm Bay's roads as the issue and not businesses employing illegals. Please, lets stay on topic here. The issue is illegals working without proper documentation and citizens who pay property taxes now having to take on the added burden of providing services to illegals. This is not racial, and it is not profiling. I am sure the Libertarians would like to turn this discussion into such and issue to deflect from the real argument that it is illegal to work in the United States without proper documentation. If I have to provide a social security number, work references, and pay taxes why is it different for illegals? Okay Space Coast Libertarians argue that issue and please stay on topic.
richard oldham ramer tn

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Aug 27, 2006
 
I MOVED FROM THAT AREA FOR JUST THAT SAME REASON GREEDY CONTRACTORS THAT HIRE ILLEGALS CUT MY THROAT AND YOURS AND HOPEFULLY THEIR OWN EVENTUALLY.
Sherri

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Sep 8, 2006
 
The Silent Majority
of Florida
On August 17, 2006, The Palm Bay City Council
(Florida) had a Second Reading (final vote) on the
Unlawful Business Practices ordinance 2006-80.
The ordinance passed the First Reading 4-1. This
ordinance was expected to become the national
model where cities would be able to locally
enforce immigration laws.
The Unlawful Business Practices ordinance is a
business regulation ordinance requiring licensees
to hire only legal employees. The ordinance would
prohibit unauthorized workers including minors,
convicted sex offenders, convicted felons and
illegal aliens.
The 4-1 favorable vote August 3, 2006 changed to
a 2-3 loss on August 17, 2006. There can be no
doubt the outcome was greatly influenced by the
pro illegal immigration special interest groups.
The wide range of overwhelming citizen support
continues. The Silent Majority of Florida has been
established to collect petitions to establish a
special election in order to adopt the Unlawful
Business Practice Ordinance.
It is our hope to have this ordinance adopted
through special elections in Palm Bay and
throughout the State of Florida.
http://www.silentmajorityofflorida.com/index....
bruce grant sr

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Sep 16, 2006
 
I AGREE
Maria Funk

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Jun 29, 2007
 
I am a citizen who is is dire need of a job because of what I have as income from social security cannot is below poverty line i am able to work and i actually cover every grounds with resume and application only to get no response, I have called every where that was introduced to me, some refer me to get food stamp, nothing of course is wrong with food stamp but food stamp is not what I want I want a job to go and work to make myself independent, so instead of the hirings of people who dont have working papers,can some one help me to find a job, I am 63, remember social security eligibility begins at 62,
Maria Funk

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Jun 29, 2007
 
I am a citizen 63 yrs old and i need a job, the social security i get makes me below poverty level i have resumes and applications out there with no response, food stamps I dont want a job is what i want to make my self independent so can some on help me find a job which is my heart desire right now, and its not been selfish to say instead of hiring people with out working papers can some one hire me too since i have working papers.
Jarod

Lakeland, FL

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Jul 8, 2007
 
Maybe you ought to ask these Palm Bay heroes of yours how and why these illegals got here to begin with. Is a fireman a hero if he lights your house on fire and then puts it out?

Poppycock!!!
yeti

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Jul 15, 2007
 
im new to palm bay, and i havent seen many illegal (or even hispanic legal or not) workers. im from dc and infront of every convience store every morning there are labors lined up for work.
now while i believe in the inherant worth and dignity in every person..... i also believe that LEGAL citizens should be able to get work before anyone ILLEGAL. back in maryland i used to manage a mcdolalds, and every time there was a rumor that immigration was going to come around half of my workers called in sick. most of them were legal, but i do know that some werent (i dident hire them, the previous guy did, and they were exclant workers). i have been here for 3 months and still havent found a job. im talanted and hard working.
any replies (or job offers) please reply to greenzero13@gmail.com
thanks
paul

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