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Curious

Kansasville, WI

#1 May 30, 2012
What happened to the Illiana Paranormal Research Society? I used to see their stuff around town rather frequently, but haven't for some time now. Their website is also down.
Burnt

Urbana, IL

#2 May 30, 2012
Curious wrote:
What happened to the Illiana Paranormal Research Society? I used to see their stuff around town rather frequently, but haven't for some time now. Their website is also down.
Paranormal? Here's the *right* place: http://www.kan-i-help.org/agency_profile.asp...
ghosthunter

Bourbonnais, IL

#3 May 30, 2012
afterdark paranormal investigations is the best paranormal team there is in the area rite now i have seen some of the awesome things they have done so if ur looking 4 a paranormal 2 investigate they r the ones 2 call .
FairytaleKiller

Chicago, IL

#5 May 31, 2012
Or you could just accept the truth. Those ghosts are in your imagination.
living in the real world

Urbana, IL

#6 May 31, 2012
FairytaleKiller wrote:
Or you could just accept the truth. Those ghosts are in your imagination.
Perfectly stated.
ghosthunter

Bourbonnais, IL

#7 May 31, 2012
kyle i think u need 2 keep quite just cause u got kicked out of that group 4 trying 2 take over it doesnt mean u can go and bash them . so if u wanna talk trash i suggest u say it 2 the owner and the guy he has always counted on say it 2 their face or shut ur mouth .
NotSurprised

Chicago, IL

#9 Jun 1, 2012
Wow. This discussion broke down fast.
DawkinsFan

Chicago, IL

#10 Jun 1, 2012
It did. This post had a lot of potential to discuss local "paranormal" stuff and whether or not such things even exist (which I don't believe that they do). Maybe we can get a few more intelligent people to post their opinions and experiences and get away from ghosthunger and Kyle Owens and whatever their problems are.
Inquirer

Chicago, IL

#11 Jun 2, 2012
So, does anyone actually believe that there is anything to the Roff house? The owners seem to garner alot of attention from the tours and such. I wonder if they even believe.
Para no one

Franklin Park, IL

#12 Jun 2, 2012
Oh yea he believes. He believes in the mighty dollar!!!!
I believe

Bourbonnais, IL

#13 Jun 3, 2012
I fully believe in the paranormal - I used to live in a very old house that people had died in and this was back before the days of funeral homes, so the "visitation" was held in the home. I've seen pictures of people in their caskets in front of what was the living room window. It was the home of my husbands family since it was built, so these were all relatives of his. We would hear things fall to the floor upstairs and go to see what it was and find something that had been safely set on a dresser laying on the floor. There were times that we would be laying in bed and hear things downstairs. One time we heard something, we went down and looked and a chair in the living room was moved. It was sitting in the same spot that my father in law had had his chair sitting in for years. Even tho it was our furniture, I truly believe that Dad decided it didn't belong where I had it and after looking at it, I decided that I'd leave it where he had put it. I guess that chair moving about 4 foot across the floor when there was no one downstairs was the biggest thing that convinced me. I always wanted to have the house investigated, but unfortunately Afterdark Paranormal Investigations wasn't around at the time and the house was destroyed by the floods of '08.

As far as the problem between ghosthunter and this "Kyle" whoever he is - I know ghosthunter and the rest of the people at Paranormal Investigations very well and believe me, he wouldn't have said what he did if it wasn't the truth. Those of you that read this forum on a regular basis know that this "Kyle" has umpteen names and does nothing but cause problems.

As far as the Roff house, if you've ever read the book "Watseka" -- you'd believe.
DawkinsFan

Chicago, IL

#14 Jun 3, 2012
I actually did read "Watseka" in High School and I did not put a great deal of stock in that account at the time. With respect I Want to Believe, would an overactive imagination be a better explanation for what you experienced than a haunting? It is always easier to believe that a cherished family member is still with us then it is to accept that they are gone forever. I'm asking a question and making a point. I am not attacking anyone's belief system, for the record.
I believe

Bourbonnais, IL

#16 Jun 3, 2012
DawkinsFan wrote:
I actually did read "Watseka" in High School and I did not put a great deal of stock in that account at the time. With respect I Want to Believe, would an overactive imagination be a better explanation for what you experienced than a haunting? It is always easier to believe that a cherished family member is still with us then it is to accept that they are gone forever. I'm asking a question and making a point. I am not attacking anyone's belief system, for the record.
I don't think that an overactive imagination could make things fall off of dressers and make a chair move 4 foot from where it was when I went upstairs to watch TV before I was going to go to sleep. I was awake and I HEARD the chair scraping across the floor. As far as the things falling off of the dressers, I heard the things hit the floor and there was no one upstairs. I never said it was a "haunting" - to me a haunting implies bad things, not just things that happen with no explanation. Don't YOU think it's rather strange that the chair was moved to the exact spot where my father in law's chair had sat for at least the 20 years that I had dated and been married to his son? He had 2 or 3 different chairs in that time span, but they had always sat in the exact same spot.
Para no one

Franklin Park, IL

#17 Jun 3, 2012
As a former Watseka resident, as well as someone that knows the Watseka Wonder story very well, I would believe that any paranormal activity from the story would have occurred in the Vennum House, across from the high school. That is where Lurancy Vennum was possessed by the spirit of Mary Roff. Nothing happened at the Roff House- other than Lurancy lived there when she was possessed. It amazes me every time I see people paying to get into the Roff home. It just LOOKS creepy, because it sat abandoned for so long. It LOOKS like a haunted house. The Vennum House has been occupied- for the most part- since it was built. I knew the Ramons as well as the Sokobiaks, the former owners. Nothing was ever mentioned about paranormal activity. If you watch the most recent movie produced,'The Possessed', the little boy that lives there now gives the most chilling account of talking and playing with the ghost of Mary Roff. Nothing else- that the "ghosthunters" found was believable to me. Just my 2 cents.
ghosthunter

Bourbonnais, IL

#18 Jun 4, 2012
DawkinsFan wrote:
It did. This post had a lot of potential to discuss local "paranormal" stuff and whether or not such things even exist (which I don't believe that they do). Maybe we can get a few more intelligent people to post their opinions and experiences and get away from ghosthunger and Kyle Owens and whatever their problems are.
dAWKINSFAN I WAS A SPECTATOR AT 1 OF THEIR HUNTS AN HAD NOTICED THE WAY KYLE WAS ACTTING AND THINKING HE WAS BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE AND IT ALSO SEEMED 2 ME THAT HE WAS ALSO TRYING 2 TELL THE OWNER OF THE GROUP HOW 2 RUN IT . SO I WAS JUST SIMPLY STATING A FACT AND I WAS IN NO MEANS TRYING 2 START DRAMA .
Skeptic

Chicago, IL

#19 Jun 4, 2012
I believe wrote:
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I don't think that an overactive imagination could make things fall off of dressers and make a chair move 4 foot from where it was when I went upstairs to watch TV before I was going to go to sleep. I was awake and I HEARD the chair scraping across the floor. As far as the things falling off of the dressers, I heard the things hit the floor and there was no one upstairs. I never said it was a "haunting" - to me a haunting implies bad things, not just things that happen with no explanation. Don't YOU think it's rather strange that the chair was moved to the exact spot where my father in law's chair had sat for at least the 20 years that I had dated and been married to his son? He had 2 or 3 different chairs in that time span, but they had always sat in the exact same spot.
An unstable foundation could, conceivably, cause these occurances. Couple that with a desire to believe, DawkinsFan stated, that your father in law was still around. Belief is a powerful thing.
I believe

Bourbonnais, IL

#20 Jun 4, 2012
Skeptic wrote:
<quoted text> An unstable foundation could, conceivably, cause these occurances. Couple that with a desire to believe, DawkinsFan stated, that your father in law was still around. Belief is a powerful thing.
OH PLEASE !! Give me a break.... IF the object had been close to the edge of the dresser and there was an earthquake that I SOMEHOW hadn't felt downstairs, then MAYBE, but it wasn't and there wasn't. And if the foundation was unstable and shifted enough to make a chair that probably weighed 40 - 50 lbs move 4 foot across a floor, don't you think we would have felt that too?? Our bedroom was directly over the living room and we were AWAKE when these things happened - I know what I heard, felt, and saw and I felt NO movement of the house.

When that chair was moved, I realized why he had always had his chair sit there, there was basically only one spot in the living room where the TV could be placed and from that chair you could see the TV AND out the window. Dad was badly crippled by arthritis and couldn't get out much so from his chair he could see people and cars going by, squirrels playing in the trees, the birds at the bird feeder or watch TV.
DawkinsFan

Chicago, IL

#22 Jun 5, 2012
Para no one wrote:
As a former Watseka resident, as well as someone that knows the Watseka Wonder story very well, I would believe that any paranormal activity from the story would have occurred in the Vennum House, across from the high school. That is where Lurancy Vennum was possessed by the spirit of Mary Roff. Nothing happened at the Roff House- other than Lurancy lived there when she was possessed. It amazes me every time I see people paying to get into the Roff home. It just LOOKS creepy, because it sat abandoned for so long. It LOOKS like a haunted house. The Vennum House has been occupied- for the most part- since it was built. I knew the Ramons as well as the Sokobiaks, the former owners. Nothing was ever mentioned about paranormal activity. If you watch the most recent movie produced,'The Possessed', the little boy that lives there now gives the most chilling account of talking and playing with the ghost of Mary Roff. Nothing else- that the "ghosthunters" found was believable to me. Just my 2 cents.
Chilling? I will have to check that out.
Seeker

Chicago, IL

#25 Jun 13, 2012
So, we did have two teams in town but we are now down to one? What is the deal with this Afterdark team? Do they go into their investigations with a skeptical eye, or do they want to believe? How professional (if you can use that term when referring to a ghosthunter) are they?
GodslawinDevilsl and

United States

#33 Jun 30, 2012
CuriousGeorge wrote:
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Uh...After Dark Paranormal are AMATEUR ghosthunters? I didn't know that you could be a professional ghosthunter. Where do you go to school for that? NIU didn't have a BS in ghosthunting and I know that I've never seen it listed in KCC's semester catalog. I respect that believe in this stuff, and even find it a little facinating myself, but please do not call someone an amateur at something that is not even a real profession.
This thread is labeled "Local Ghosthunters" those interested in the topic would only post here, and most that do are educated on the subject. Now the one who started this thread really should have labeled it something else with paranormal and supernatural in the title of the thread, ghost hunters only hunt ghosts, as to where paranormal investigators and pis and supernatural detectives and pis and investigators do everything from ghosts to supernatural beings, aliens, crimes that have been comited out of the ordinary and beyond normal hu8man comprehension. My insinuation was that becuase I was on the team, and saw how they did things, they did not seem legitimate and a lot of inexperianced teens, not knowing 100% what they are doing, and a bit shy, and a lot where false. I am able to read minds and know when another is a fake or acting. An experianced paranormal & supernatural investigator is not just a ghost hunter, is thorough, experianced, not fake in what their minds are capable of doing, such as bieng a medium or psychic, and hops right to it, not going around places with a little toy that picks up signal from the next dimension of space, but actually does in home services from fixing your issues, ridding your homes, excorcisms, etc. Also you are correct on that their are not too many. However their are some colleges that offer classes on paranormal, theology, mythology, demonolgy, angelology, religion, time & space science, as well as philosophy, everything any paranormal & supernatural investigator would need to be an expert pi, detective, investigator, and not just a petty ghost hunter. Also it won't matter due to the United States government falling here in 2012 with ww3 at hand, the colleges will have to base their teachings of of some sort of equivilant exchange due to the mesianic age or golden age (some call it different names) comming soon here in 2012, as it has hit world wide, and will be picking up.

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