3 college students arrested in Athens...

3 college students arrested in Athens for making fake IDs

There are 29 comments on the WDUN-AM Gainesville story from Mar 14, 2007, titled 3 college students arrested in Athens for making fake IDs. In it, WDUN-AM Gainesville reports that:

The Associated Press - ATHENS, Ga. Police have arrested three college students they say were running a major fake ID operation out of their apartment.

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susan smith

Dalton, GA

#1 Mar 15, 2007
That woman should get a life and mind her own business. Does her son have a fake I.D.?
I guarantee that he does. Now she sits there smugly thinking that she saved the world. She knows the boys and their families. Why didn't she talk to them first?
I don't know how she can sleep at night. She makes me sick.
Hey lady: Run back to church and get saved for the millionth time again. Afterwards run to the gasstation and buy a bunch of lottery tickets....
HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!
Matthew Barker

Athens, GA

#2 Mar 15, 2007
Thanks Susan
no name

Smyrna, GA

#3 Mar 16, 2007
I also agree with Susan, people need to learn to mind their own business, its not like they were selling herion or some other highly addictive, destroy your life drug. That, yeah, i would understand the need to say hey, this needs to be stopped.

Virtually everyone in Athens either has a fake id, or did at one point in their life time. Speaking of which, its also crap that the people that have id's from these gentlemen can get felonies as well.. Or at least some kind of trouble. Catching __ many kids with fakes isn't going to stop the 1,000,000,000 others from using theirs. Drinking age is too high anyway, i've met a ton of ignorant, irresponsible 21+ year olds that have no business living on their own, much less the option at hand to alter their thought abilities.

Bottom line, whats done is done now. I will just hope that our justice system doesn't send these guys in jail or even prison for this. The space is needed for the real criminals. Or did everyone forget about the serial killers, child molesters, rapers, slaughters, major drug transporters or anyone else subject to a harsh punishment not mentioned or stated in above!!
susan smith

Dalton, GA

#4 Mar 16, 2007
I have a college student in Athens, and I asked why so many kids have fake I.D.s (other than the obvious of purchasing alcohol.) I was told that you can not get into the clubs in Athens if your under 21. I don't know if that is true, however, just because you go to a club it does not automatically mean your getting drunk. Some of these kids do-and some don't. There are kids that are responsible enough to not drink, and some just "social drink"-sipping on one drink all night. The fact of the matter is that everyone always says don't drink and drive, have a designated driver, so some just go in order to be the DD.
The way I see it is if someone underage goes in the club, stays sober and then drives all of his/her drunk friends home- that person is doing EVERYONE a FAVOR by keeping drunks of the road.
Personally I don't like the fact of all that goes on in Athens, but the bottom line is kids will be kids, and sometimes do stupid stuff. Like I wrote earlier, that woman is malicious because if she had any concerns about the kids she would have gone about the situation differently.
"No name" has my thought exactly. There is far to much real crime in this country that needs to be addressed other than going after such easy prey. The real criminals are running around scott free-their to hard to catch.
Final thought : If our kids are old enough to be shipped off to war, then they should be old enough to have a drink and go to a club.
the sun kin

Milledgeville, GA

#5 Mar 18, 2007
it's typical of the hillbilly police dept. and the redkneck city council/commissioners: to after the very thing that keeps athens around and flourishing, "UGA" nevermind the major drug dealers, drug houses and gang wanna-bees that run rampant through the project housing and surounding streets. or the throngs of prostitutes and thieving beggers.....

I realize that mass producing fake identification is a serious crime, but these are college students selling them to college students and after a while they'd get bored of it or old enough. no need to ruin lives and drag kids through the system, or expell just for the politics of it.

and it sounds like the maintenence man and manager broke the law by scheming to enter an apartment illegally.
UGA student 2

Loganville, GA

#6 Mar 27, 2007
the sun kid-

You sound so incredibly ignorant even though your response contains respectable vocabulary usage.

I'm sorry, but where you're from, I'm supposing non-hillbilly regions, is obeying the law NOT required? How about the academic honesty policy? Should we abolish that as well. After all, you must have heard that most jobs we take after college will use less than 30% of information we learned in school anyway. The rest is forgotten or not applied, so why bother?

I certainly hope you are NOT a student who attends UGA because you are truly a disgrace to all we stand for. Wisdom, Justice & Moderation. Laws were put in place for a reason and if you have such a high disregard for them, I'm sure you'll soon be visiting your fellow classmates, ah hem.. cellmates very soon.

Cheers
UGA student 2

Loganville, GA

#7 Mar 27, 2007
All of you complaining people need to take your gripes to the legislation.
A parent of 4

Duluth, GA

#8 Mar 29, 2007
I am a parent of 4 ages 19, 16, 9, and 7. I have lost friends to drunk driving accidents and i do realize the risks associated with drinking and driving. I do belive however that the drinking age in our country is to low. We consider people old enough to Marry with out parental consent, buy a car, sign other leagal documents, vote for the people who are going to lead our country, and join the military and even go to war at 18. I firmly believe that the legal age should be 18. It would reduce the amount of underage drinking, and in this case the need for fake ids. There is not enough for young people between the ages of 18 and 21 to do and often times they just want to be able to hang out with their other friends, listen to good music, dance..etc. Yes some will drink.. some drink now even though it is not legal, it is my belief that we can teach our children to abstain from drinking if we believe it is wrong, and that we can also teach them the responsible way to consume alcoholic beverages and acceptable/responsible behavior such as not driving when drinking. I think that criminal charges in this case would serve no good purpose except to try to make an example out of a few kids when there are many many who have fake ids. I hope that our laws in this area are reviewed and that changes are made. I do agree with the student above that laws were put in place fro a reason however I also recognize that there are laws that need to be changed or removed. There are also laws on the books in most states that are not enforced does that mean the law enforcement or the goverment officals in that state have a high disregard for the law.. I don't think so I think they just realize that there are more important things to utilize our limited police resources on. Maybe if enough of us get together we can change the laws regarding the drinking age and reduce the need for fake ids at the same time thus allowing our law enforcement to focus on more important matters.
WOW

Montgomery, AL

#9 Jun 27, 2007
She did the right thing and called the police like a good citizen. We need more citizens like this and maybe we can clean up some of the crime in this world instead of looking the other way. Those boys should pay the penalty for what they have done because they chose to break the law. If you dont break the law, you dont go to jail. its just that easy. if the bars & restaurants take these ids and sell the minors alcohol they could lose their job and face time in jail. this is not a victimless crime especially when minors cause an accident and kill someone. I applaud this lady for doing the right thing and changing the drinking age to 18 is not the answer. a lot of 21 year olds cannot drink resonsible.
wbg44

Atlanta, GA

#10 Sep 7, 2007
Damn all of you i need to know where to get a fake id so i can get on some bitches at the club i can get beer just fine

“no religion = peace”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#11 Sep 8, 2007
A parent of 4 wrote:
I am a parent of 4 ages 19, 16, 9, and 7. I have lost friends to drunk driving accidents and i do realize the risks associated with drinking and driving. I do belive however that the drinking age in our country is to low. We consider people old enough to Marry with out parental consent, buy a car, sign other leagal documents, vote for the people who are going to lead our country, and join the military and even go to war at 18. I firmly believe that the legal age should be 18. It would reduce the amount of underage drinking, and in this case the need for fake ids. There is not enough for young people between the ages of 18 and 21 to do and often times they just want to be able to hang out with their other friends, listen to good music, dance..etc. Yes some will drink.. some drink now even though it is not legal, it is my belief that we can teach our children to abstain from drinking if we believe it is wrong, and that we can also teach them the responsible way to consume alcoholic beverages and acceptable/responsible behavior such as not driving when drinking. I think that criminal charges in this case would serve no good purpose except to try to make an example out of a few kids when there are many many who have fake ids. I hope that our laws in this area are reviewed and that changes are made. I do agree with the student above that laws were put in place fro a reason however I also recognize that there are laws that need to be changed or removed. There are also laws on the books in most states that are not enforced does that mean the law enforcement or the goverment officals in that state have a high disregard for the law.. I don't think so I think they just realize that there are more important things to utilize our limited police resources on. Maybe if enough of us get together we can change the laws regarding the drinking age and reduce the need for fake ids at the same time thus allowing our law enforcement to focus on more important matters.
this city needs not to concern themselves with college students and drinking, 99% of the students using fake IDs to drink do not drive, they live on campus.

what athens needs to do is crack down on the disproportionate amount of crack heads, drug dealers and thugs roaming the streets.

in a city this small it's unbelievable how many wanna be gang bangers and crack bitches there are.

and while they're at it, they should pick up and move all the crime ridden public housing to a corn field somewhere and let them rob, shoot, deal drugs and rape amongst themselves
whatever

Boynton Beach, FL

#12 Sep 8, 2007
the sun king wrote:
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this city needs not to concern themselves with college students and drinking, 99% of the students using fake IDs to drink do not drive, they live on campus.
what athens needs to do is crack down on the disproportionate amount of crack heads, drug dealers and thugs roaming the streets.
in a city this small it's unbelievable how many wanna be gang bangers and crack bitches there are.
and while they're at it, they should pick up and move all the crime ridden public housing to a corn field somewhere and let them rob, shoot, deal drugs and rape amongst themselves
you may go a little over board, but thank you all the same. college kids drink - period. always have, always will. If you take away their fake id's, they will find another way. And yes, I cannot tell you how many times I've called the police on about the drugs and prostitution that exist on my street, and still without result.
misplaced priorities?

“no religion = peace”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#13 Sep 9, 2007
I know, it just infuriates me that so much attention goes towards drinking and football nothing else...

you can drive down east broad (out peter st.) any time of the day, any day of the week and there are at least 4 hookers, 2 pimps, an assortment of crack heads and 3 drug dealers hanging out in a mob where the street dips at the speed bump.

it ridiculous, and every morning there is at least 1 story (banner herald)of a drug bust or violent crime at a public housing facility.
my name

Eastpoint, FL

#14 Sep 17, 2007
only if you knew what really goes on in Athens all the time. What you read in the paper doesn't even scratch the surface. And as far as police priorities go, they respond to what people call into 911. If they get a call, they have to go, they don't choose what's going to be in tomorrow's headlines.
whatever

Athens, GA

#15 Sep 18, 2007
my name wrote:
only if you knew what really goes on in Athens all the time. What you read in the paper doesn't even scratch the surface. And as far as police priorities go, they respond to what people call into 911. If they get a call, they have to go, they don't choose what's going to be in tomorrow's headlines.
excuse me? what do you know -Florida? I live downtown and know exactly what goes on in Athens. And no, there is in fact a huge difference between making something so much of a priority that it is eradicated, and answering a call. Not a day goes by that some person in my neighborhood gets copper stolen from their ac or plumbing, someone gets held up at gun point, some cracked out hooker walks down the street and does god knows what else. If I call the police about a house that I know has drug activity,(and I have) do you think I'm going to get as quick a turnaround time as in the case of the fake id selling kids? No, they'll drive by the house in question, and point a light at it as they do. Palease.

“no religion = peace”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#16 Sep 18, 2007
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
excuse me? what do you know -Florida? I live downtown and know exactly what goes on in Athens. And no, there is in fact a huge difference between making something so much of a priority that it is eradicated, and answering a call. Not a day goes by that some person in my neighborhood gets copper stolen from their ac or plumbing, someone gets held up at gun point, some cracked out hooker walks down the street and does god knows what else. If I call the police about a house that I know has drug activity,(and I have) do you think I'm going to get as quick a turnaround time as in the case of the fake id selling kids? No, they'll drive by the house in question, and point a light at it as they do. Palease.
exactly! I had an officer ask me if "I" was willing to do an undercover drug buy for the police dept. the one time I reported a known drug house...... I said do I get a gun? no? fuck off, thats their job. in my mind it's much more important to clean the streets of drug dealers, hookers and thugs than it is to go after college kids drinking beer illegally. but that's not whats in the police dept. minds.....
my name

Eastpoint, FL

#17 Sep 19, 2007
To Sun King and Whatever,
There's a little thing called constitutional rights. Police can't violate them. When they have probable cause,(sun king, you could help that officer develope probable cause, but no, you don't want to help solve the problem, you just want to complain about the problem) they can intrude on those rights, but until then - they can't! In the case of hookers and drug dealers, palease...you think the police don't know whats going on. They do! But there again, that darn thing called "rignts" tends to get in the way. Believe me, if police could just go arresting anybody for what they "know" their doing, we wouldn't have hookers and drugies walking the streets. And we wouldn't have to deal with any of these problems if lawyers didn't make it so difficult for police to do their job.
whatever

Athens, GA

#18 Sep 19, 2007
so "my name", I'm aware of peoples' rights, but thatnk you for your biting little lesson. I'm curious what the difference is (in your opinion) between the rights of the kids making fake id's, and the rights of the hookers and drug dealers? They're the same. And in all scenarios, the actions are/were illegal, but I believe what Sun King and I were arguing was that most law abiding people would like to see hookers and drugs thugs removed prior to fake id sellers - at least if we had the choice. And do you really believe it is Sun King's civic responsibility to work undercover, risking his life to do what the police are paid to do? They have (or should)undercover police officers for that. All we can do is call the police. It's up to them to decide what their priorties are (unfortunately) after that. I'm sure they didn't just go arresting students for making fake id's - they investigated it first. Serve and Protect, or so I last heard.

“no religion = peace”

Since: Jul 07

Location hidden

#19 Sep 19, 2007
my name wrote:
To Sun King and Whatever,
There's a little thing called constitutional rights. Police can't violate them. When they have probable cause,(sun king, you could help that officer develope probable cause, but no, you don't want to help solve the problem, you just want to complain about the problem) they can intrude on those rights, but until then - they can't! In the case of hookers and drug dealers, palease...you think the police don't know whats going on. They do! But there again, that darn thing called "rignts" tends to get in the way. Believe me, if police could just go arresting anybody for what they "know" their doing, we wouldn't have hookers and drugies walking the streets. And we wouldn't have to deal with any of these problems if lawyers didn't make it so difficult for police to do their job.
I see you're the type to pick and choose and the try and string it all together intelligently. didn't work! sorry.

my story of helping or not helping the police officers skipped right over your head. let me explain it more simply for you.

the police knew about the drug house, had been turning a blind eye, they proposed that if I wanted to help, by putting my life in danger, they would do something about it. I did not choose to be a cop for a career, they did.

they rather go arrest and harass students for non-violent and rediculous things like making fake I.D's, drinking at tailgates etc... because that is where the money is at, they can hold them knowing their parents will cough up the dough.

try not to butt in next time unless you really understand what the hell is going on, especially in a conversation between other people.....
Susan Smith

United States

#20 Oct 22, 2007
Finally someone sort of got the picture.(the sun king).
The reason why cops don't go after real crimes is because real crimes are to dangerous and they are not making allot of money off it.
It is so much easier to sit on their fat asses in the car, eating doughnuts ,and pointing a radar gun at passing cars than actually fighting crime. College kids and fake I.D.'s are a non dangerous, non physical type of thing they like to do in order to keep themselves out of danger.
I wonder about all the 18 year old kids fighting in Iraq that are being slaughtered for Bush- are they allowed to drink a beer?

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