NAACP President On 'Commonality' Of Selma, Seneca Falls And Stonewall

Jan 23, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: National Public Radio

In his inaugural address , President Obama made reference to historic events in the women's rights movement, the black civil rights movement and the gay rights movement.

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Further down the page of this article is a link to "Divine Rhetoric: God In The Inaugural Address". It is an interesting read.

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Listen to the audio.

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Listen to the audio.
I'm glad you posted that. Dan Savage was able to articulate what I felt at the moment Mr. Obama said that about our love being equal. It brought tears to my eyes, and I will remember it for the remainder of my days. It was so succinct, and so nakedly true, yet so few see it.

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I'm glad you posted that. Dan Savage was able to articulate what I felt at the moment Mr. Obama said that about our love being equal. It brought tears to my eyes, and I will remember it for the remainder of my days. It was so succinct, and so nakedly true, yet so few see it.
Did you see this?

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This must be driving the anti-gays crazy. Blacks publicly stating they have common ground and history with gays and lesbians.

I wonder if the rate of strokes and heart attacks spiked this last Monday?

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Did you see this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EBnk2aKsIQAXX&feature=rel ated
Thanks again for another great video to bookmark.

The anti-gays want to define every black person by their skin color, just as they want to define every GLBT person by the sexual acts they MIGHT engage in.

Then they get offended when people define them based solely on their bigotry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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My oh my! How selective of you to take the minority view of blacks.
You naughty naughty girl you.
It's no longer the minority view You naughty naughty girl you.

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This must be driving the anti-gays crazy. Blacks publicly stating they have common ground and history with gays and lesbians.
I wonder if the rate of strokes and heart attacks spiked this last Monday?
They don't like it, but it is nothing new.

It was civil rights leader and architect of the March On Washington, Bayard Rustin, who in 1986 said: "The barometer of where one is on human rights questions is no longer the black community, it's the gay community, because it is the community which is most easily mistreated."

Coretta Scott King said "I still hear people say that I should not be talking about the rights of lesbian and gay people and I should stick to the issue of racial justice. But I hasten to remind them that Martin Luther King Jr. said. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." I appeal to everyone who believes in Martin Luther King Jr's dream to make room at the table of brother and sisterhood for lesbian and gay people."

Rev. William Sinkford, President, Unitarian Universalist Church. "The Unitarian Universalist Association has a long-standing and deeply held religious commitment to support full equality for gay people. We dedicate ourselves to work for justice, grounded in faith, which calls us to support everyone's full humanity, everyone's ability to love, and everyone's value in the world.

Julian Bond. "I see this as a civil rights issue. That means I support gay civil marriage."

“It is time to say forthrightly that the government’s exclusion of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters from civil marriage officially degrades them and their families.”— Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)

Atlanta’s Rev. Joseph Lowery; activist and former Democratic presidential candidate Rev. Al Sharpton; Bayard Rustin, Barbara Jordan, and South African Bishop Demon Tutu, who won the Noble Peace Prize for his work against apartheid there, have all publicly supported marriage equality.

Julian Bond said in 2005:“Many gays, many lesbians, worked side by side with me in the civil rights movement. Am I supposed to tell them now thanks for risking their lives and their limbs to help me win my rights but that they are excluded because of the circumstances of their birth? Not a chance.”
He also said; " I think Martin King would stand as his widow stood -- in favor of them."

Andrew Young said about marriage equality: "I think it would be consistent with our historic spirit of fairness and justice. But it also would be consistent with the spirit of grace and mercy as the path to peace that you judge not that you not be judged."

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While we celebrate June as Pride month in commemoration of the Stonewall uprising of 1969, Stonewall was not the birth of the gay rights movement as is so often reported, but was an important milestone in a movement that was already in progress.

Pride recognizes the extreme sacrifice, including going to jail, and being sent to mental institutions and tortured, that the early gay equality movement members endured, as well as those who continue to risk punishment for opposing laws that continue to deny equality.

Many don't know the first public gay rights organization in the U.S. was the Society for Human Rights (SHR) in 1924, organized by Henry Gerber, who was soon arrested for his efforts.

Organization attempts continued and the Mattachine Society emerged in 1950, followed by Daughters of Bilitis organized by Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon (the first couple married in California) and 6 others in San Francisco in 1955.

Most don't realize every state in the U.S. criminalized homosexual sex between consenting adults in a private home as late as 1960: An adult convicted of the crime of having sex with another consenting adult in the privacy of his or her home could get anywhere from a light fine to five, ten, or twenty years—or even life—in prison. In Pennsylvania and California sex offenders could be locked in a mental institution for life, and in seven states they could be castrated. Castration, emetics, hypnosis, electroshock therapy, and lobotomies were used by psychiatrists to attempt to "cure" homosexuals of their desires through the 1950’s and 1960’s.

In August of 1966, the Compton Cafeteria riot in San Francisco, helped set the precedent for Stonewall. By 1969 gay and lesbian organizations existed all over the country, helping to set the stage for Stonewall. So, Pride is about remembering those who marched and got arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and had their lives destroyed leading up to Stonewall, as well as those who continue to risk being fired, disowned by family and friends, beaten and killed, just for attempting to be authentic human beings.

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Decadent, degrading, defaming, disgracful, humiliating, immoral, corrupt, morally unsound.
On and on and on.
Are you referring to your life?

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Do you have a link to go with that pile of bullspit? Of course not! You never do, all hogwash and lies.
I do:

http://n.pr/W1girw

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Do you have a link to go with that pile of bullspit? Of course not! You never do, all hogwash and lies.
And of course you deny reality as usual.

Links?
Chew on these:

December 13, 2012, 12:38 PM

WSJ/NBC Poll: Majority Now Backs Gay Marriage
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/12/13/wsjn...

Some of the sharpest swings in acceptance come among African-Americans and suburbanites. In 2009, less than a third of blacks and 37% of Americans living in the suburbs said they approved of gay marriage. A majority of both of those groups now favor the unions.

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November 12, 2012 at 12:26 pm
African Americans and Latinos spur gay marriage revolution
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/w...

Last Tuesday’s election was a watershed moment for the gay marriage movement. Voters in three states voted to legalize it — something no state had done before — and a fourth state voted against a proposed ban.

And if the movement catches on in other states, African Americans and Latinos will be a big reason why.

In fact, exit polls now show a majority of both groups now favor gay marriage.

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May 23, 2012 12:01am

Strong Support for Gay Marriage Now Exceeds Strong Opposition

Strong public support for same-sex marriage exceeds strong opposition by a significant margin for the first time in ABC News/Washington Post polls, and African-Americans have moved more in favor, perhaps taking their lead from Barack Obama on the issue.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/...

Perhaps it's time you returned to your home planet.

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Decadent, degrading, defaming, disgracful, humiliating, immoral, corrupt, morally unsound.
On and on and on.
But enough about you and your moral compass.

I'm delighted that more and more blacks are speaking up for people like me and calling people like you what you actually are. A disgrace to all civil rights movements.

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And it was The Reverend Bill Owens, the same man that marched in the civil rights movement,
Rev. Owens said at the National Press Club:“The President is in the White House because of the civil rights movement, and I was a leader in that movement, and I didn’t march one inch, one foot, one yard for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman.”
“So the President has forgotten the price that was paid. People died or they suffered or they gave their blood to have equal rights in the United States. And for the homosexual community and for the President to bow to the money, as Judas did with Jesus Christ, is a disgrace and we are ashamed. We will not take it back. We will not back down. We are going to take action across this country to change the course that this President has us in.”
Rev Owens is judging the president not on his character but his racial background. Is that what he marched for?

To me that doesn't make him a leader of the civil rights movement. It simply makes him an embarrassment and disgrace to those who suffered and died to feed his ego.

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And it was The Reverend Bill Owens, the same man that marched in the civil rights movement,
Rev. Owens said at the National Press Club:“The President is in the White House because of the civil rights movement, and I was a leader in that movement, and I didn’t march one inch, one foot, one yard for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman.”
“So the President has forgotten the price that was paid. People died or they suffered or they gave their blood to have equal rights in the United States. And for the homosexual community and for the President to bow to the money, as Judas did with Jesus Christ, is a disgrace and we are ashamed. We will not take it back. We will not back down. We are going to take action across this country to change the course that this President has us in.”

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That's funny cus I'm not seeing it. I see a lot of voter fraud going around and I also see low turnout of 'total' african american voters. I do see a dumbed down society and irresponsible one at that. I see 4 of 7 black homes without a father and 75% of black children married outside of wedlock. So, the same people that are failing in the family dept you are glad to craft that most blacks support your cause while at the same time pointing out a 50% divorce rate among heteros. You seem to relish in the failure of others misery. Since you cannot procreate, and don't give the that outside help bullshit story, it is you that has chosen failure. You lil dirt devil you.
" 75% of black children married outside of wedlock."? How does one accomplish that?

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Oh my! Who the hell are we to make that decision right there? The man marched in the civil rights movement. The man is the leader of the African American Pastors Association of America!
How dare you!!!!
HOW DARE YOU!!!!
His prejudice is based on a religious belief not shared by all believers, and supported only by a few mistranslated and misinterpreted ancient texts. Others who marched understand equal rights are human rights, and everyone should be treated equally under the law.

In 2009, Julian Bond wrote, "Black people, of all people, should not oppose equality. And that is what gay marriage represents.... No people of good will should oppose marriage equality. And they should not think that civil unions are a substitute. At best, civil unions are separate but equal. And we all know separate is never equal."

Rev. Dr. William Barber II, North Carolina NAACP chairman, declared, "They're trying to give people, based on their sexuality, a kind of second- or third-class citizenship. We know what that looks like in the NAACP, and we're calling it what it is."

The Rev. Jesse Jackson, speaking in opposition to California's Proposition 8, said, "To those that believe in and fought for civil rights, that marched to end discrimination and win equality, you must not become that which you hated.... Those that support civil and human rights cannot, must not, become perpetrators of discrimination against others based upon race, religion, culture, sexual orientation."

John Lewis, testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Defense of Marriage Act, remarked, "I am very happy to see the Judiciary Committee holding hearings to address the issue of marriage equality. But at the same time, I must admit I find it unbelievable that in the year 2011 there is still a need to hold hearings and debate whether or not a human being should be able to marry the one they love."

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That's funny cus I'm not seeing it. I see a lot of voter fraud going around and I also see low turnout of 'total' african american voters. I do see a dumbed down society and irresponsible one at that. I see 4 of 7 black homes without a father and 75% of black children married outside of wedlock. So, the same people that are failing in the family dept you are glad to craft that most blacks support your cause while at the same time pointing out a 50% divorce rate among heteros. You seem to relish in the failure of others misery. Since you cannot procreate, and don't give the that outside help bullshit story, it is you that has chosen failure. You lil dirt devil you.
First off, as for voter fraud,PROVE IT! But you can't can you?

Secondly stop blaming me for the failures of your community. Maybe if you and people like you stopped whining and blaming everyone else, especially gays and lesbians for these failures, you'd have time to actually come up with real solutions instead of band-aids and useless rhetoric.

And thirdly, being a gay man doesn't mean I am unable to procreate. My swimmers can fertilize an egg just as well as yours can, so stop claiming we can't produce offspring. The hundreds of thousand gay and lesbians who have biological children prove you are talking out of your aZZ.

Lastly, you are incorrect in claiming I relish the the failures and misery of others. This is just another deflection on your part to mask your own failures. I've been involved in programs that help the very people you claim I enjoy watching suffer. I've tutored grown black men who can't read, helped young black girls with GED courses and have always advocated responsible procreation and safe sex to many groups not just blacks. I've been involved in drug and alcohol recovery programs and have supported church programs to help low performance inner city schools. What have you done?

All I've ever heard you do is complain. Be the change you want to see in this world. Wipe off the brown lipstick and stupid multiple screen names and do something besides posting lies and misinformation in your effort to mask your own failures as a black man.

Finally, you claimed I had no proof that the majority of blacks now support our cause. I provided links that back up my claims. Where are yours? You seldom have any.

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Oh my! Who the hell are we to make that decision right there? The man marched in the civil rights movement. The man is the leader of the African American Pastors Association of America!
How dare you!!!!
HOW DARE YOU!!!!
How Dare I? Glad you asked. I'm a guy who still suffers along with millions of other U. S. citizens who live under the prejudice and legal discrimination Rev. Owens supports and promotes. I'm one of millions he's perfectly happy to treat even worse than anything he faced in his lifetime. Did he ever have to fight laws banning him from marrying his wife? NOPE! Being a teacher? NOPE? Serving in the military? NOPE! He never once faced the discrimination he heaps on MY PEOPLE.

HOW DARE ME, you ask?

I marched too. But the difference is I didn't march for blacks to become the new generation of oppressors and bigots. I marched for equality for ALL Citizens. Your precious hero can't say the same. His own words prove it.

So WHOOP-DE-DO that he's the President of the African American Pastors Association of America. All that shows is he's got good connections and he's a good politician. Nothing more.

He's still a racist bigot that promotes discrimination and legalized Jim Crow laws for fellow citizens.
THAT'S HOW I DARE!

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" 75% of black children married outside of wedlock."? How does one accomplish that?
By electing leaders like Rev. Owens.

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