Teen Challenge Exposed!
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Janice

Fort Worth, TX

#228 Dec 4, 2013
Parents and Family: Don't send anyone to Teen Challenge. Find another place and there are many good alternatives. Just because some good comes from something bad doesn't make it okay. Abuse and/or neglect are never ever acceptable. Just because some do well, doesn't excuse bad behavior. Find another place for your niece. You are gambling with her very life if you send her to TC. You've been told of the problems. You know. Don't play Russian Roulette with your child's life hoping it'll be okay. Its not okay. According to this facebook page, the Hall's have had one facility closed and they were cited for child abuse and neglect. You all know. You've been told there are problems. Don't gamble with your kid. Its your kid. Its your responsibility to protect your own kid. When there are accusations of abuse and you knowingly send your child into that situation, maybe hoping the accusations are not true, you are completely gambling with your child's very life, future, well being, and that is a serious offense. Find another program. There are other places that can and will truly help your child.

And yes...from what I understand, Lin Hall, the male director of NM Teen Challenge grabbed, kissed, and inappropriately touched young teenage female students entrusted to his care. My friend told me she was a victim and many years later still has nightmares.

If you send your kid to this program just because some good things have been reported and you discount the bad, you are gambling with your child's life hoping it'll be okay and you know what? It might not and if its not, that is on you because there is ample information giving information....and you've been warned of the problems.

https://www.facebook.com/ParentsAgainstTeenCh...
Janice

Fort Worth, TX

#229 Dec 4, 2013
Every prisoner in prison is innocent and has found Jesus. Yet if you wouldn't send your kid to live in prison with these guys and trust your kid to a prisoner's care, don't send your kid to people who have serious allegations going back years against them because they read the Bible to them. Don't risk your kid's future that way just hoping it'll be okay. Just because some kids either weren't abused or just learned to live with it and did okay, doesn't mean your kid will. That is an awfully big risk to take with your child's life. Its as risky as letting your kid go live with convicted felons, child molesters and murders because they "say" they are innocent and have found Jesus.
mad as hell

Fort Worth, TX

#230 Dec 16, 2013
"The Program Promised to Help Your Child
You have a child with behavior issues or special educational needs and you sent them to a school or program that promised to help. Instead of providing needed guidance, discipline and encouragement, the program subjected your child to abuse, neglect and emotional torture. Someone should pay for the lifelong injuries, broken promises and shattered trust.@ wturley.com '"
- See more at: http://justwrit.com/2013/12/17/lawsuit-filed-...
terry

Racine, WI

#231 Jan 11, 2014
I went to Teen Challenge in 1997 and God used them to help me and I have never returned to drugs. Everything in life has a darkside
mad as hell

Fort Worth, TX

#232 Feb 12, 2014
Not supposed to be that way...everything does not have to have a dark side. Just because it has helped some who were strong enough to tolerate the "dark side" does not mean it is okay. It has damaged some for life and they will never be the same. A few right things don't justify the wrong.
The Hall's in NM have a substantiated complaint filed with CYFD (New Mexico Child Protective Services) for abuse and neglect. When a parent takes their child to TC of NM, they sign over custody of their kid to people who have had a lengthy history of abuse and neglect. There are multiple blogs going back years that document this history. I'm fairly certain they don't disclose this to prospective students and their parents. If they were cleared, they can simply submit a letter from NMCYFD showing they were cleared. If they cannot, they should at least be giving parents full disclosure. NM has a serious problem with facilities who say they provide help for troubled youth. There is no oversight or accountability. If you see this and as a parent, take your child there anyway knowing the problems and not at least asking for some proof that these problems aren't substantiated, there is something seriously wrong with you. I guess I'm not sure why anyone ever would think that abuse and neglect are okay in any situation just because they had the personal ability to find good somewhere in it. Abuse and neglect are never ever okay. It is insane to say that or think that. Sounds like some of that brainwashing worked on you.

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/albuquerq...
mad as hell

Fort Worth, TX

#233 Feb 12, 2014
This is another "religious" facility in NM that had abuse complaints. They have no oversight in NM for facilities that claim to be "religious", "faith based" "camps" or "ranches" that don't take state or federal funds. Its a serious problem over there. Wherever you take your child, you ARE responsible for what happens to them while they are there...like it or not. Its YOUR kid. Make sure there is oversight. Make sure you can make unannounced random visits to check on the welfare of your own kid. Make sure the Hall's in NM have advised you of any and all substantiated complaints in writing before you just sign your kid over to them. Legally, it would appear they have the obligation to do so and YOU as a parent, have the obligation to ask for it since its now all over the internet. And NEVER think abuse/neglect are okay under any circumstances. These people that defend that....something is wrong with them...including former students. There are serious wires missing in their head if they think for one minute any of it was ever okay. Its not.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3319834.s...
tjj

Holland, MI

#234 Mar 5, 2014
Understand this.
TC is not certified as a re-hab. They are not state inspected for health, training, staff--nothing.
Their staff is not trained in teaching, first aid, nutrition, substance abuse and most are not "real" pastors".
Do you homework before you or a loved one goes there.
I was at the one in Muskegon Michigan for 11 months.
If anyone has questions about that TC, I will answer them truthfully, un-biased based on my first hand experience.
God Bless!!!!
Raider

Turlock, CA

#244 Jul 2, 2014
i completed 15 months of teen challenge in turlock cal. there were some setbacks for me but overall it changed my life for the better .. with me it was some of the staff that i had problems with not the program ... those that were bias to certain people have been removed & the positions were filled with capable staff ... the majority of the students that go thru T.C. have a better life upon completion, some relapse but its really about how bad u want a real life instead of a drug or alcohol life
LDC

Tulsa, OK

#245 Jul 5, 2014
Raider wrote:
i completed 15 months of teen challenge in turlock cal. there were some setbacks for me but overall it changed my life for the better .. with me it was some of the staff that i had problems with not the program ... those that were bias to certain people have been removed & the positions were filled with capable staff ... the majority of the students that go thru T.C. have a better life upon completion, some relapse but its really about how bad u want a real life instead of a drug or alcohol life
I think you were a lucky one. My son went to Teen Challenge in NM for about 11/2 to 2 years of his life at age 17. He came out in worse shape than he went in. Horrible place with no skills but slave labor, stress and bible babble. And I mean babble. The only thing he achieved there was a setback in his natural maturity, no life skills to move forward, and a mistrust of his Faith.

I am thanking God that his family was there for him after being put on a plane to OK with no money and a ' discharge' after completing his studies. He only received a GED (the state court ordered him back to complete his diploma) and was set back in his studies for many years. He was discharged for standing up for his family and not wanting to become a 'jailer' to the other boys there. I am blessed and thankful he was able to turn his life around with the help of his 'sinful, uncaring' family. It took him close to 5 years to do so. So, again, I am proud for you; but the Majority of young people coming out of this particular state program have not fared so well. The boys t.c. Was shut down for making the boys clean up raw sewage. But.. They were allowed to take a 5 minute rinse in the sewer shower water after working in it for hours in the heat. Then they were allowed to eat out of date, nasty molded food they cooked for themselves. Great place for a lost child to recover in!! No communication with family except to recite bible verses for the allotted time with the 'lead' on the phone at all times. Yes, I am a Christian and I pray the God I know will take care of this group of control freaks in His own way! I Trust only in Him; not some lunatic ex-cop and his wife with power in there thoughts and actions. It is a disgrace to our children. As a last resort, my sons father brought up to the lead 'lady' the question of his diploma being court ordered... She told him if he would keep all info to himself, she would send him an 'accredited diploma'. The paper he received was just that... basically, just another piece of paper!

Since: Aug 14

Sand Springs, OK

#246 Aug 15, 2014
DO NOT USE THIS PLACE if you have a child that is a runner do NOT take them here these people tell you they can help you that they work with troubled teens all the time if your child runs they can't get far they do NOT tell you they are not a lock down facility they lead you to believe your child will be safe and someone will watch them that is NOT the case two teens ran from this place within two weeks of their stay and this place will not refund any of the $6,000 I did some research on teen challenge. There was a big thing about it when Bush was the governor in Texas and then it went nationwide when he became president. Basically, the state was getting ready to close it down because it wasn't following state mandate and yet it was still claiming to be a treatment center (to claim to be a treatment or medical center licensed clinical staff must be employed there and all activity is regulated by the state). Bush stepped in and said that since it is a religious organization the state could not regulate it. So basically, since they claim to be religious based they definitely are not regulated at all. And from what I read, they used to be primarily substance abuse camps so most of the kids were probably in withdrawals and couldn't run if they tried. The only treatment they offer is bible reading and prayer.This is an article that was written about programs that aren't regulated by the state. Teen challenge is mentioned. It seems to go along with what you were saying. It also stares that the parents do sign papers that prevent them from lawsuits. It also states that there are no refunds if the program is not completed, even if they are expelled from the program. Keep in constant contact with your lawyer about this. Criminal charges are usually still possible as they are not usually protected by papers that protect from civil lawsuits. It would be nearly impossible to prove anything
A friend of mine decided she would voluntarily call them and act like she had a troubled teen kind of like My teen and how could they handle her this is what she sent me "This is what i got from Alexis there:i asked if it was a locked down place she said no. but they are in a very rural area and there is no place to go. and if she does run away they put them in bright orange shirts and kaki pants. and give them shoes that are too big for them. there is a one time fee of 1300 due at time of intake. then it's 2300 hundred a month. asked if she was on k2 and pot real bad could they help and she said yes."
Miss Shannon would NOT speak to me for the three days our teen has been gone she's having her minions call our teen is STILL on the run and is endangered they called today and told me to come get her stuff no money will be refunded the are headed to Africa in the morning for a "missions" trip this is the message I got Exact words "we have been in a staff meeting all day and we all agree **** needs a lock down facility we are leaving for Africa tomorrow but there will be someone here for you to come get her stuff we wish you the best good luck and may God be with you" EXCUSE ME but if miss Shannon is so Godly why is she leaving and not staying back and willing to find our kid?!
Concerned parent

Bessemer, AL

#247 Aug 24, 2014
I am sorry to hear about your daughter but not surprised at Shannon's words. Our son was at Brush Creek and it was a complete nightmare! He came out worse than when he went in. I hope your daughter is found safe.
j-snyder

Charleston, MS

#248 Jun 19, 2015
Has anyone had any experience, bad or good, with the Teen Challenge in Alabama. the residential for males? Just curous
Heather

Cedar Rapids, IA

#249 Jan 5, 2016
My husband almost didn't make it to Teen Challenge because he read blogs on how abusive and bad Teen Challenge is. He is currently there and it's been life changing. He has a new hope, not only that, but they've been working with me too to help restore our marriage. He wishes he would have gotten there sooner. I spent the weekend with him and was impressed. No one is held against their will and one man left while I was there because he missed his girlfriend. Although abuse is a big deal and should be dealt with properly, I would hesitate to have government involved in non-profit organizations. Everyone should be allowed the freedom to practice their faith and not everything should be one size fits all. Although everyone is welcome, Teen Challenge is not for everyone and the same goes for secular programs and AA.

Since: Apr 16

North Richland Hills, TX

#250 Apr 6, 2016
TJTJ wrote:
I attended West Mi TC for 11 months to the day.
If it was the last place to go, I would NOT go back. It is not what they advertise, boarderline criminal and fraudulant.
No job training, no church membership once you graduate, no skills no sobriety skills nothing.
The staff and McClain are wacked, the worst of all "Pastor Sam". I wouldn't let him counsel my dog.
The so called pastors there are the mail order type, no outside training, no couseling training nothing but TC brainwashing. That's why they have to stay there.
If you are looking to stay sober go to AA, NA etc. These are proven, reliable programs and have worked for me.
I tracked Muskegon TC's success rate when I was there. They have a graduation rate of less than 10% and a sobriety rate of less than 2%. Ask them to give you details of "their" success study they so quickly quote. They will not give you any details.
They have alarms on the doors and windows to keep you in. Check with the local police dept. They will tell you the truth.
Please do your homework before sending yourself or anyone else there.
I've been told as a mother of a 16 year old son, that this is the place to send him. However, everything I've read has been from 2008 or earlier. Could you please give me more information on Teen Challenge centers? I would really appreciate it. My son just wrapped his SUV around a telephone pole, was arrested, let go, and we took him to the ER to have a blood draw done to see what he was on. It wasn't good. I'm trying to save my son's life; not make it worse. Any help would be so appreciated!

Since: Apr 16

North Richland Hills, TX

#251 Apr 6, 2016
Heather wrote:
My husband almost didn't make it to Teen Challenge because he read blogs on how abusive and bad Teen Challenge is. He is currently there and it's been life changing. He has a new hope, not only that, but they've been working with me too to help restore our marriage. He wishes he would have gotten there sooner. I spent the weekend with him and was impressed. No one is held against their will and one man left while I was there because he missed his girlfriend. Although abuse is a big deal and should be dealt with properly, I would hesitate to have government involved in non-profit organizations. Everyone should be allowed the freedom to practice their faith and not everything should be one size fits all. Although everyone is welcome, Teen Challenge is not for everyone and the same goes for secular programs and AA.
May I ask why there are grown men there? I'm looking for a place for my 16 year old son. Why is it called teen challenge if there are adults being offered help? I'm not trying to be offensive at all! I just really need to find a great place for my son. Any information you could provide would be so helpful. Thanks.
Aspen

New York, NY

#253 May 14, 2016
I'd like to find out more about Eastern Appalchian - if anyone can point me anywhere.

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