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Students At 9 Conn. High Schools To Get Financial Incentives

Teachers at the nine schools will also receive financial incentives based on their students' test results.

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Apr 12, 2008
 
What a joke. The education system finding another way to spend money. Why don't the teachers learn to teach
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Apr 12, 2008
 
How about a "Get Out of Jail Free" Card?
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Apr 12, 2008
 
This teaches kids it's only when perks are available that hard work is to be expended, rather than performing at their highest potential at all times.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
THIS IS A JOKE! THey need to take the money and hire more teachers in order to lower the teacher/student ratio so teachers can dedicate more time to students. They need to also spend some money on re-training some teachers b/c these teachers need to stop classifying these kids as hanving ADHD or what ever is called so they can get on meds and come to class calm. THEY ARE NOT CALM THEY ARE DRUGGED. I know people whose kids have been sent to Dr. and put on meds b/c teachers can't control them in class. It's called detention w/out video games and cells and give them work to do. And parents need to start parenting and spending time with their kids instead of leaving it up to a video game to do the job. Oh yes and stop buying $600 viedo game systems specially when the kid is not doing good in school. School should be a a top priority.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Sad as it is, some kids don't have the confidence that they can succeed in school, let alone an AP class. If offering them $100 gets them to try a course and work hard for that money, and then they do well, that gives them the self-confidence that they can do it again and they carry that with them in the future. Obviously, something worked well in Dallas. Eventually, this program can be discontinued after it accomplishes its goals.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Torre wrote:
What a joke. The education system finding another way to spend money. Why don't the teachers learn to teach
Gee, you make it sound so easy. Why don't you try it sometime, since you know so much about it?
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Apr 12, 2008
 
WHAT IS GOING ON wrote:
THIS IS A JOKE! THey need to take the money and hire more teachers in order to lower the teacher/student ratio so teachers can dedicate more time to students. They need to also spend some money on re-training some teachers b/c these teachers need to stop classifying these kids as hanving ADHD or what ever is called so they can get on meds and come to class calm. THEY ARE NOT CALM THEY ARE DRUGGED. I know people whose kids have been sent to Dr. and put on meds b/c teachers can't control them in class. It's called detention w/out video games and cells and give them work to do. And parents need to start parenting and spending time with their kids instead of leaving it up to a video game to do the job. Oh yes and stop buying $600 viedo game systems specially when the kid is not doing good in school. School should be a a top priority.
The kids who are ADHD are the ones who are playing video games 6 hours a day!
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Apr 12, 2008
 
The teachers now are getting a bonus just for doing their job? The teachers union keeps telling us these educators are so so so dedicated. Why do we have to dangle money in their faces to make them perform at a high level - something most people are expected to do for their ordinary salary.

Instead of these incentives, why not save money all ways around and let the kids see a world where there is no welfare check, no food stamps, and no other welfare for you if you don't apply yourself and educate yourself sufficiently to get a job. Maybe if kids learned the old phrase, "it's a tough world out there", they would develop some responsibility and take school seriously. Instead, they are coddled. Their lazy parents are shown education and effort aren't necessary. If you do nothing, the government is right there with your welfare check. How does such as system lead to self-reliance and learning the importance of one's need to perform well?
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Torre wrote:
What a joke. The education system finding another way to spend money. Why don't the teachers learn to teach
If money is given to a student for a good grade - it should come from the students parents.

Students getting money for good grades should only be called a 'scholarship'- something to help them pay for continued education, not free spending cash....
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Apr 12, 2008
 
CTKanes wrote:
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Gee, you make it sound so easy. Why don't you try it sometime, since you know so much about it?
The short answer is because the special interests which run the public schools are to entrenched to make a difference. Get rid of the unions and we could have some change.

I know the teacher's union is nothing but another special interest trying to collect as much money and political favors as it can. Why don't they favor trying less costly alternatives as school vouchers, tougher discipline (spanking, expulsion, suspension). Has the NEA (teacher's union) ever studied Catholic schools, which spend far less per pupil. There is greater discipline and the teachers aren't there just to collect a paycheck. There is no union bureaucracy either whose whole mission is to grow in political power and see how much more money it can collect to spend on worthless new projects.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
A better idea would be creating college-savings accounts for these students. They pass a test and their account gets funded with financial rewards.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Sounds like an incentive kids today will be able to relate to. My comment is Why is this only offered to only 9 High Schools and why arent State Vocational School on this list , There are kids in those schools also that plan to attend college and have the desire to further themselves .
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Apr 12, 2008
 
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The kids who are ADHD are the ones who are playing video games 6 hours a day!
CTKanes,

ask yourself, at the end of the school day, who are the first people racing out of the parking lot?

It is the teachers. They don't teach anymore, they barely babysit.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
I dont see the problem with a pay for performance type program, I mean that what we all do at work... But it should be a higher education fund when they are young, not a paycheck
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Apr 12, 2008
 
HC Here wrote:
The teachers now are getting a bonus just for doing their job? The teachers union keeps telling us these educators are so so so dedicated. Why do we have to dangle money in their faces to make them perform at a high level - something most people are expected to do for their ordinary salary.
Instead of these incentives, why not save money all ways around and let the kids see a world where there is no welfare check, no food stamps, and no other welfare for you if you don't apply yourself and educate yourself sufficiently to get a job. Maybe if kids learned the old phrase, "it's a tough world out there", they would develop some responsibility and take school seriously. Instead, they are coddled. Their lazy parents are shown education and effort aren't necessary. If you do nothing, the government is right there with your welfare check. How does such as system lead to self-reliance and learning the importance of one's need to perform well?
The welfare system shouldn't be that easy in giving kids/parents money. I grew up in the projects, w/ a single parent with some welfare assistance. We were 8 kids. On top of mom working she used to say that her job didn't stop at the factory. She made sure education was a priority and was her other job on top of raising us. We'd come home from school and had to do school work - ALL OF US. The oldest made sure the youngest did their work. There was no reason not to. There were no video games, no playground, no TV - NOTHING. And we wouldn't dare to disobey her. I don't thingk she ever missed a parent/teacher conference. I remember being teased b/c we couldn't go outside and b/c my mom was strict. Now all of us work, none on welfare, 5 went to college. We took mom out of welfare as soon as we all started working. It all had to do with the teachings and parenting from my mom. I don't see that any more and can't believe how some kids are and how some parents are b/c they are too be blamed also.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Brian wrote:
A better idea would be creating college-savings accounts for these students. They pass a test and their account gets funded with financial rewards.
What a MUCH BETTER IDEA than simply handing the kid the cash. I like this. It could be funded into a 529 account.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
The taxpayers ARE paying for performance any way you slice it: for 32 years part of my wage taxes (like other people) have been going to fund education even though I have no children of my own.

I graduated both high school and college with honors (Mom paid for college - no one else) and did so because I took education seriously and studied and worked hard. That was a matter of self-respect and respect for my mother, and to build the foundation for the future. Oh, and I came from poor public housing in Hartford (Mom worked menial jobs because of her lack of education and opportunities during the 30's and 40s when she grew up).

Any kid or parents who take that handout as an incentive are part of the problem, not the solution.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
Why doesnt the state take the money that would be used to entice the students to pass tests and use it to lower heating costs, electricity, or even gas. We learned that working hard, studing, and actually trying to make something of ourselves proved worth the effort. Let the students learn that if they do not want to try, they will be flipping burgers, asking if they want fries with that, or paper or plastic.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
WHAT IS GOING ON wrote:
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The welfare system shouldn't be that easy in giving kids/parents money. I grew up in the projects, w/ a single parent with some welfare assistance. We were 8 kids. On top of mom working she used to say that her job didn't stop at the factory. She made sure education was a priority and was her other job on top of raising us. We'd come home from school and had to do school work - ALL OF US. The oldest made sure the youngest did their work. There was no reason not to. There were no video games, no playground, no TV - NOTHING. And we wouldn't dare to disobey her. I don't thingk she ever missed a parent/teacher conference. I remember being teased b/c we couldn't go outside and b/c my mom was strict. Now all of us work, none on welfare, 5 went to college. We took mom out of welfare as soon as we all started working. It all had to do with the teachings and parenting from my mom. I don't see that any more and can't believe how some kids are and how some parents are b/c they are too be blamed also.
Your mother should be commended for her efforts. She shoulds like a great lady full of pride and devotion to her family. You sould like a great person, too. God bless you and your family.
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Apr 12, 2008
 
What a dumb idea. Will these incentives be increased to compensate for inflation? Will they be incorporated into the already inflated teachers' contracts? If the teachers cannot motivate the kids to learn then maybe they should be doing something else for a living. The education budgets are a large burden to many, if not all, towns accounting for the largest percentage of the towns' budgets. Forget this idiotic idea.
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