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Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.

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Vic

Islip, NY

#96912 Apr 4, 2011
Devin wrote:
<quoted text>
so you can't make a correlation between the two different insurance products, health insurance and medical liability coverage for practioners thus, there is nothing to suggest that limiting victim compensation awards reduces the health care insurers premiums charged to subscribers?
Compensation Lawyers aren't paid out of any portion of Health Care Insurers revenues. One is not a factor of the other there's no relationship what so ever between the two.
Does you auto mechanic charge you according to the automobile insurance coverage you have?
I'm trying to understand the relationship....
i.e Mitt Romney owns a health care insurance company, why would he lower his subscribers premiums if there's a limit on damages for victims suing a physician in his network's liability insurance company?
Really why would he go into his pocket for something that has no standing on his finances?
This is all jibberish. Tort reform saves healthcare dollars.

This argument is a classic reason of how lawyers destroy our country, and how they are parasites who will debate the meaning of the word is, in order to create a BS argument that everyone knows is wrong.

The bottom line is that once your company has enough employees the insurance companies use and experience rating to determine your health insurance costs.

All the extra tests that your employees had due to defensive medicine increase the costs your insurance company had to cover you, as a result the experience rating changes resulting in higher premiums.

And that is the definition of the word "is".

Save the legalese BS for your lawyer friends.
Teddy R

Reston, VA

#96913 Apr 4, 2011
So ...
Teddy R wrote:
And Devin - I have never corrected your grammar, or commented on it. I know a lost cause when I see it.
Or is it that you think plagiarism is merely a grammatical error?[chuckle]
You really are too much, man.


To which you responded:
Devin wrote:
Teddy I'm flatters you so thoroughly review my post for spelling and grammar eras..... It's appreciated.....
I know enough not to be so with your as the content is commonly fraudulent..... such as the precious post concentrated dialogue on Iraq "Capabilities"...... . ROFLMAO
the composition was set so well and contained so little.....
"Dazzle them with Bullshit"........
<quoted text>
.... once again thanking me for 'review[ing your] post for spelling and grammar eras [sic]....'

Once again

[whack]

you are a plagiarist

[whack]

I have no comment on your spelling and grammar, and never have.

[WHACK]

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96914 Apr 4, 2011
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
No you dummy, PROVE you are not posting as Devin, as many of us suspect..
Why should I. I made a statement, you denied it. Now prove your denial correct.
Teddy R

Reston, VA

#96915 Apr 4, 2011
Devin wrote:
<quoted text>
If your focus was a bit narrow, you could post a reference of a humanitarian intervention during the reign of Republican Rule as refutable evidence.....
You do have something to support the baseless speculation above?
Deflection FAIL.

The assertion I was responding to referred to wars started by CONSERVATIVES, not Republicans.

Stay on topic.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96916 Apr 4, 2011
Vic wrote:
<quoted text>
Good points. I think you are probably right that it may be the right thing to be involved in Libya, of course the next question is where do we stop,
what about the Ivory Coast, what about Syria.
These are tough issues where I don't know if there is a clear right vs. wrong decision, I just hope we have the right people making the decisions.
One at a time with limited involvement. But I think our biggest problem is protecting those evil dictators that have been our best friends; Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain....?

Since: Jun 10

Fort Myers

#96917 Apr 4, 2011
i think this world needs some chaos. everyone needs to protest now or it will be too late
Vic

Islip, NY

#96918 Apr 4, 2011
Devin wrote:
Over the last 15 years HC Expenses is the one expense that you can not control. No matter if there is a catastrophic illness in the group or not, the cost has risen each and every year by 10 to 15%..
I don't know where people get the idea that if you have a group that is prone to injury or illness the cost is more, because with no significant claims one thing is certain, the premiums have constantly risen and continue to without the benefit of an excuse from your insurer.
Over the last 10 years, a 3% pay raise year over year was eaten up by the increase in benefit contributions for employees. You in a tight spot, you have to hold the line on bids not to price yourself out of the competition.
<quoted text>
"Large group market. Premium rates are determined either from an individual
group’s medical claims history (referred to as “experience”) or from a blended
average of manual rates calculated from the members of the group and from the
group’s experience.3"

http://www.google.com/url...
Teddy R

Reston, VA

#96919 Apr 4, 2011
Devin wrote:
<quoted text>
The Iraq War Authorization was a Resolution.....
PUBLIC LAW 107–243—OCT. 16, 2002
Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102–1),’’ that Iraq’s repression of
its civilian population violates United Nations Security Council
Resolution 688 and ‘‘constitutes a continuing threat to the peace,
security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region,’’ and that Congress,
‘‘supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the
goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688’’;
Yeeeahhh ... have a look at the refernce in my post to PL 107–243.

The 'PL' stands for PUBLIC LAW.

You do know the difference between a non-binding Senate resolution and one passed by the full Congress that's enacted as a Public Law, right?

Of course you do ...

Since: Jun 10

Fort Myers

#96920 Apr 4, 2011
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeeeahhh ... have a look at the refernce in my post to PL 107–243.
The 'PL' stands for PUBLIC LAW.
You do know the difference between a non-binding Senate resolution and one passed by the full Congress that's enacted as a Public Law, right?
Of course you do ...
shut up you dont know what you are talking about
Say the Truth

Philadelphia, PA

#96921 Apr 4, 2011
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should I. I made a statement, you denied it. Now prove your denial correct.
Failed 'Elementary Logic'?

What do you have to hide?

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96922 Apr 4, 2011
Nostrilis Waxman wrote:
1 - They beg to differ with you: "On the fifth anniversary of the 11 September attacks against the US, Europeans agree with Americans that terrorism inspired by Muslim fundamentalism is a big threat to their lives."
"'No-one immune'
Security experts believe Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network has inspired an unknown number of "self-starter" cells, many of them in Europe, each of which has a host of potential targets for attack. "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5336596.s...
I think polls would bear out more people feel Libya and Bosnia had much less to do with our national interests than Afghanastan.
But, Democrats waged war with them, so it's OK, right?
<quoted text>
Do you have a problem with Bosnia? I did not mention it so I was wondering what your preoccupation with it is.

A great deal the Al Qaeda involvement in Europe can be linked to their support of our war effort.

I did not say that Libya was a "direct" interest either. I said there were some "indirect" interests and listed some of them. So what specifically do you have an issue with about what I stated?
Vic

Islip, NY

#96923 Apr 4, 2011
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
One at a time with limited involvement. But I think our biggest problem is protecting those evil dictators that have been our best friends; Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain....?
Those will be tough decisions.

I just hope that if an opportunity again arises in Iran, that we are just as aggressive as we are being in Libya.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96924 Apr 4, 2011
Nostrilis Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop being silly. In what way do I want it both ways. I don't like your socialism, period. Not much confusion in my mind.
If you get yourself confused spinning, that's not my problem.
Do you think Democrats are not Socialistic?
If you are not a socialist then you have no problem ending both programs tomorrow. PERIOD.
Devin

Newport News, VA

#96925 Apr 4, 2011
Ok, if Tort Reform saves health care dollars, explain how? What are the correlations between the two products.

Cut through the jibberish and explain.

Where is the connection?
Vic wrote:
<quoted text>
This is all jibberish. Tort reform saves healthcare dollars.
This argument is a classic reason of how lawyers destroy our country, and how they are parasites who will debate the meaning of the word is, in order to create a BS argument that everyone knows is wrong.
The bottom line is that once your company has enough employees the insurance companies use and experience rating to determine your health insurance costs.
All the extra tests that your employees had due to defensive medicine increase the costs your insurance company had to cover you, as a result the experience rating changes resulting in higher premiums.
And that is the definition of the word "is".
Save the legalese BS for your lawyer friends.
Yada, Yada, yak, yak...... What are the correlations between Health Care Insurance and Physician Liability Insurance that makes Blue Cross charge you less in premiums?

"Laymen" terms...... how does that work?
Teddy R

Reston, VA

#96926 Apr 4, 2011
Devin wrote:
You're a POS and can't change that fact.<quoted text>
Wow. You called Wax a POS?

A Pillar of Sensibility?

Probably the nicest thing anyone's said to him all day. I'm sure he appreciates it.
Devin wrote:
In simple English, can you provide some link to support that WMDs and a connection to funding terrorism were found to exist in Iraq after more than 8 years of occupying the nation and the hanging of Saddam?
<quoted text>
Dev - I've already posted explicit references to all the authoritative documents, both pre-and post-war, that establish the complete justification upon which the UNSC and the Congress voted sanctions and military action against Saddam, and what was and was not found.

You seem to be able to read.

Go to the library, and quit wasting Nos Waxman's time with your ignorant rhetorical "challenges."

It's gone beyond tiresome.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96927 Apr 4, 2011
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked you to point to any other serious proposal that's actually been put forward in Washington, not more of your lunatic rhetorical graffitti.
Who has proposed a complete and immediate elimination of SS and Medicare?
Nobody in Congress. Not the Debt Commission. Not any recognized authority I'm aware of.
Which makes it - just plain silly. Again.
Are there any serious proposals out there? I don't think so and that is part of the problem.

I have proposed it because it is the only way to eliminate the deficit without raising taxes. And I will not support a tax increase of one dime or more and have made that clear to my representatives.
Vic

Islip, NY

#96928 Apr 4, 2011
Vic wrote:
<quoted text>
"Large group market. Premium rates are determined either from an individual
group’s medical claims history (referred to as “experience”) or from a blended
average of manual rates calculated from the members of the group and from the
group’s experience.3"
http://www.google.com/url...
Devin, I just showed you how it works. Defensive medicine leads to more claims, more claims lead to increased experience rating, which leads to higher premiums.

See the link above. Is means "is".

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96929 Apr 4, 2011
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
I asked you to point to any other serious proposal that's actually been put forward in Washington, not more of your lunatic rhetorical graffitti.
Who has proposed a complete and immediate elimination of SS and Medicare?
Nobody in Congress. Not the Debt Commission. Not any recognized authority I'm aware of.
Which makes it - just plain silly. Again.
In fact Teddy, I think we need a two-year tax holiday on SS and Medicare taxes. That gets money in the pockets of business as well as individuals and should finally turn the economy around.
Nostrilis Waxman

Windsor, CT

#96930 Apr 4, 2011
Anyone want to see Democrats saying there was no financial worries with Fannie & Freddie?

This is an excellent documentary:

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#96931 Apr 4, 2011
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a public forum, and a free country (so far, thankfully...).
I'm not his Mom. Bill is a big boy, and is free to post whatever points he likes in reply to other posts he sees, as far as I'm concerned.
He doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for him.
Are you sure your statements are accurate? Do you know him? I think maybe he, Devin and Say the Truth are one and the same. Same temperment, mirror images.

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