Gay vice principal to sue Wash. Catholic school

Mar 6, 2014 Read more: Reno Gazette-Journal 453

If you don't like the fact that term-limited council members in Reno can't run for mayor, you might... Mark Zmuda speaks publicly for the first time since his removal from Eastside Catholic High School in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, on Friday, Jan. 31, 2014.

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Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#1 Mar 7, 2014
If he gets a W-2 he works under state and federal employment laws
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His employer's religious superstitions would be irrelevant. Religion is self-professed behavior that can't be independently verified
Buford

Buffalo, NY

#2 Mar 7, 2014
Just think of how many boys this disgusting creep has molested,

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#3 Mar 7, 2014
Buford wrote:
Just think of how many boys this disgusting creep has molested,
I'm sure you think of it enough for a great many people.

Wash your hands before you touch anything.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Mar 7, 2014
Buford wrote:
Just think of how many boys this disgusting creep has molested,
How many?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#5 Mar 7, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
If he gets a W-2 he works under state and federal employment laws
.
His employer's religious superstitions would be irrelevant. Religion is self-professed behavior that can't be independently verified
He hasn't got a case. These people will continue to lose forever. To address your comment, he has to pay taxes to state and federal taxing authorities, he does not work under their laws. He works for a church, there is a separation of church and state. He's wasting his time and his money. His time would be better spent trying to find a teaching job elsewhere.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Mar 7, 2014
A school is obviously not a house of worship, and so the question will eventually become how much in public monies, if any, this sort of private school gets.

I suspect by the time this legal question (eventually) gets worked out to provide protections for glbt employees of private, "religious" academies that the rcc will have dropped it's most disgusting homophobia, anyway.

Now, the equivalent fundie academies will never give up. Their bigotry in hiring will go on for years.

In the meantime, I'd be skeptical that this ex vice principal has a case given the law today.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#7 Mar 7, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
Their bigotry in hiring will go on for years.
There was no bigotry in the hiring, they hired him. Just like the rest of those that got fired, it was because they had a gay marriage. They broke the rules and the rules were spelled out in a signed contract.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Mar 7, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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There was no bigotry in the hiring, they hired him. Just like the rest of those that got fired, it was because they had a gay marriage. They broke the rules and the rules were spelled out in a signed contract.
Your word games reveal a sick mind.

The contracts are bigoted. The hiring is bigoted. And these bigoted hiring and employment practices go far beyond just making an issue out of same sex marriage.

You better repent of your lying or you will, by your own diseased belief system, burn for all eternity.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#9 Mar 7, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
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Your word games reveal a sick mind.
The contracts are bigoted. The hiring is bigoted. And these bigoted hiring and employment practices go far beyond just making an issue out of same sex marriage.
You better repent of your lying or you will, by your own diseased belief system, burn for all eternity.
Why do gay people want to work for bigots?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#10 Mar 7, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>
Your word games reveal a sick mind.
The contracts are bigoted. The hiring is bigoted. And these bigoted hiring and employment practices go far beyond just making an issue out of same sex marriage.
You better repent of your lying or you will, by your own diseased belief system, burn for all eternity.
What word games? Do you mean you didn't mean what you said?
They hired him, how is that bigoted? I think you just like to drivel.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Mar 7, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Why do gay people want to work for bigots?
Hey stupid freeek, you are confused about "choice" versus "lack of choice."

I believe in marriage equality as a right. I don't wish to get married.

Is that simple enough for you, you sick sob?
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Mar 7, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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What word games? Do you mean you didn't mean what you said?
They hired him, how is that bigoted? I think you just like to drivel.
As I explained to your "earth is under 10000 years old" azz, the conditions of employment are bigoted. He was hired and remained employed only to the extent that he lived under the yoke of that bigotry.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#13 Mar 7, 2014
Wondering wrote:
There was no bigotry in the hiring, they hired him. Just like the rest of those that got fired, it was because they had a gay marriage. They broke the rules and the rules were spelled out in a signed contract.
A contract like that should be void.

It's illegal in this country for people to submit themselves to indentured servitude or slavery, even voluntarily. This is because we don't put human nature and freedom out on the negotiating table. Ever.

Love, companionship, and legal marriage should be no different. NO employee should be asked to waive or forego the most basic human components of their lives, regardless of who the employer is.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#14 Mar 7, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Why do gay people want to work for bigots?
People just sort of fall into it without looking where they are falling
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It is very likely that he accepted the job offer with a handshake before the paparwork was prepared for final signature
.
Then in blind faith (and considering this is a church) he signed the contract without noticing the 'gotcha' clause
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#15 Mar 7, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
He was hired and remained employed only to the extent that he lived under the yoke of that bigotry.
He shouldn't have applied for the job. He agreed to the terms and now he doesn't. Tough for him but that's the way it goes.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#16 Mar 7, 2014
EdmondWA wrote:
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A contract like that should be void.
No it shouldn't. Private school. He should have looked elsewhere for employment.
The 1st Amendment protects the church. They have their rules.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#17 Mar 7, 2014
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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People just sort of fall into it without looking where they are falling
.
It is very likely that he accepted the job offer with a handshake before the paparwork was prepared for final signature
.
Then in blind faith (and considering this is a church) he signed the contract without noticing the 'gotcha' clause
It's common knowledge, not a gotcha clause. He knew it or he wasn't qualified for the job to begin with.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#18 Mar 7, 2014
Wondering wrote:
No it shouldn't. Private school. He should have looked elsewhere for employment.
The 1st Amendment protects the church. They have their rules.
Private schools are not free to conscript people into indentured servitude, just by merit of being "private". This is because indentured servitude is outside the realm of accepted humane practices in employment. Similarly, denying basic human needs and functions like love and companionship, and their extension into legally recognized marriage, should also be outside of accepted humane practice in employment. NO employer, whether or not they are associated with a vaunted "church", should be free to ask their employees to give up their basic humanity, or to make this a requirement of employment.

I'm aware of the current laws on the issue. But I think they should be struck down.

But then, in a more perfect world, religion should dry up altogether and blow away like so much grimy dust.
Sen Rick Saintpornum

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Mar 7, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
He shouldn't have applied for the job. He agreed to the terms and now he doesn't. Tough for him but that's the way it goes.
Not for much longer, mullah.

“THERE IS NO GOD”

Since: Feb 09

Northern California

#20 Mar 7, 2014
Sen Rick Saintpornum wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey stupid freeek, you are confused about "choice" versus "lack of choice."
I believe in marriage equality as a right. I don't wish to get married.
Is that simple enough for you, you sick sob?
You spelled freak incorrectly.

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