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ffsagent provocateur

Littleton, CO

#193 Feb 5, 2013
blah blah blah

Since: Aug 10

Rochester, NY

#194 Feb 6, 2013
From Weaver's senate testimony:

Senator Kohl: I have another letter that was written by a neighbor of yours that appeared in the Bonners Ferry Herald in April 1992. It was written by Ruth Rau. I will just quote a few things. She says, "I have remained silent long enough. I cannot take another article or letter about innocent Randy Weaver and his nice family. I think it is time the truth be revealed. Yes, they have a religious front, and they have deceived many with it. But there is no true substance to it. They are full of evil and lies. Two years ago, we suffered several months of torment and harassment from the Weavers and their friends. Some of the crimes they committed against us were vandalism, theft, disturbing the peace, trespassing, and Randy Weaver threatened my husband's life. Randy once forced an innocent woman's car off the road and threatened her life in front of her small children. He supposedly did this because she had warned someone about what a crook that he was. I guess his belief in free speech does not always apply.

Some hero you have there!

Since: Aug 10

Rochester, NY

#195 Feb 6, 2013
Senator KOHL. All right. On March 5, 1991, you sent a letter to the U.S. Marshals Service signed by every member of your family in which you stated, and I quote, "Whether we live or whether we die, we will not obey your lawless Government."

Yeah...He was a simple law abiding citizen who loved his country. He sent a letter telling the feds he was going to shoot at them. Weaver got exactly what he wanted!
Rogue Pig

Statham, GA

#196 Feb 6, 2013
FFS- wrote:
From Weaver's senate testimony:
Senator Kohl: I have another letter that was written by a neighbor of yours that appeared in the Bonners Ferry Herald in April 1992. It was written by Ruth Rau. I will just quote a few things. She says, "I have remained silent long enough. I cannot take another article or letter about innocent Randy Weaver and his nice family. I think it is time the truth be revealed. Yes, they have a religious front, and they have deceived many with it. But there is no true substance to it. They are full of evil and lies. Two years ago, we suffered several months of torment and harassment from the Weavers and their friends. Some of the crimes they committed against us were vandalism, theft, disturbing the peace, trespassing, and Randy Weaver threatened my husband's life. Randy once forced an innocent woman's car off the road and threatened her life in front of her small children. He supposedly did this because she had warned someone about what a crook that he was. I guess his belief in free speech does not always apply.
Some hero you have there!
I'm betting that nuts like him masturbate to pics of Weaver and McVeigh. Wishing the whole time that they could man up and go down in history. Infamous or not, the "FrightWingNuts" don't care. They just want their pitiful lives to be remembered.
JCL

Brandon, FL

#197 Feb 7, 2013
@FFS:

Do some research before you post. Weaver was eventually found innocent of all charges except for the failure to appear in court. Federal marshals went on his property - unannounced - enticed the dog down the path and the boy and Kevin Williams followed. The marshals then shot the dog. Again, six marshals in full camo and ski masks who didn't identify themselves as such. The boy, Sam, shot once and ran up the trail. The marshals shot him twice in the back as he ran away. Williams shot once into the thicket but he was cleared of any charges as evidence shows Marshal Degan was most likely killed when he ran in front of Marshal Cooper during the exchange - this is backed by Cooper's testimony.

The FBI wrote new rules of engagement that are and were illegal, giving them a license to kill. The rules basically said shoot any male outside of the house on-sight. Also found in the FBI report was that Vicki was the main target of the FBI as she was seen as the matriarch of the family.

So, in the end, Weaver and his family moved away from the rat race to be alone, the FBI enticed Weaver to do something illegal (taking almost three years) and when he refused to become a snitch the put pressure on him. He failed to appear in court because his court notice had the wrong date (proven in evidence); the judge threatened to take his house and property (improperly) so Weaver holed up. Basically, the guy didn't trust the government in the beginning so he moved to a remote area of the country and the government justified each of his views with their actions - shooting his son in the back, shooting him in the back and murdering his wife.

Oh, you should look up how the FBI negotiator taunted the Weavers after they blew her head off.
JCL

Brandon, FL

#198 Feb 7, 2013
FFS- wrote:
Senator KOHL. All right. On March 5, 1991, you sent a letter to the U.S. Marshals Service signed by every member of your family in which you stated, and I quote, "Whether we live or whether we die, we will not obey your lawless Government."
Yeah...He was a simple law abiding citizen who loved his country. He sent a letter telling the feds he was going to shoot at them. Weaver got exactly what he wanted!
Where in this letter does he say he's going to shoot at them? Looks to me like you just made it up.
JCL

Brandon, FL

#199 Feb 7, 2013
FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>And you know this because you were there? That is simply what you choose to believe. Weaver set up the whole scenario.
If the feds want to serve me with a warrant, all they need to do is ring the doorbell. I open it.....nobody winds up dead.
Maybe they should have tried knocking on his door, after all, at that point had he hadn't done anything violent (in fact, he never did)...they didn't try that did they? They assumed he was violent and in the end he never took one shot at them. They spied on him, snuck onto his property - unannounced - made up lies that he was a violent white supremacist ready for fire-fight with the government. In fact, his daughter said the first they asked her was "Where are the booby traps?" She said she laughed, "What booby traps? Didn't you see our dogs running around the property carefree?"

According to witnesses during the siege, the FBI made it clear their intention was to kill the entire family; all over something they started.

There's a reason the government lost this spectacularly in the courts.
ArrDee

Oviedo, FL

#200 Feb 12, 2013
FFS- wrote:
Vicki Weaver died of stupidity!
An odd thing happens when you shoot at federal agents...they shoot back!
The agents first ambushed the Weavers' son and shot his dog when it alerted on them - then they killed the boy, too. He saw masked men shoot his dog and fired a shot with his .22 and ran. They shot him in the back. Vicky Weaver did not shoot at anyone. Horiuchi looked directly and clearly at her through his million power scope, saw her holding her baby and still blew her brains out. Don't you dare just say smarta** things about a woman being murdered by a man with a badge. Neither did the children who were shot, gassed and burned later on at Waco do any shooting at the feds. The agents at Waco again crept up and fired first, killing their dogs and also firing wildly into the building itself. These were exercises in remote intimidation. What's coming soon will make them look like tea parties. They are stockpiling ammunition of the type banned for use in war. They freely admit NOW that they DO have "camps" for emergency "housing". They are killing the dollar as they print billions in fake money. They are lighting another fire. Good luck with that, smarty pants.
ArrDee

Oviedo, FL

#201 Feb 12, 2013
Rogue Pig wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm betting that nuts like him masturbate to pics of Weaver and McVeigh. Wishing the whole time that they could man up and go down in history. Infamous or not, the "FrightWingNuts" don't care. They just want their pitiful lives to be remembered.
Oh, so someone SAYS something that helps YOUR position makes it true? Typical Liberal. The victors write the history books, right? Your comment is extremely disturbing; what kind of mind is so full of pus that it can think that way and also give such thoughts public voice? I pity your "friends" and family.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#202 Feb 13, 2013
ArrDee wrote:
<quoted text>
The agents first ambushed the Weavers' son and shot his dog when it alerted on them - then they killed the boy, too. He saw masked men shoot his dog and fired a shot with his .22 and ran. They shot him in the back. Vicky Weaver did not shoot at anyone. Horiuchi looked directly and clearly at her through his million power scope, saw her holding her baby and still blew her brains out. Don't you dare just say smarta** things about a woman being murdered by a man with a badge. Neither did the children who were shot, gassed and burned later on at Waco do any shooting at the feds. The agents at Waco again crept up and fired first, killing their dogs and also firing wildly into the building itself. These were exercises in remote intimidation. What's coming soon will make them look like tea parties. They are stockpiling ammunition of the type banned for use in war. They freely admit NOW that they DO have "camps" for emergency "housing". They are killing the dollar as they print billions in fake money. They are lighting another fire. Good luck with that, smarty pants.
again, you are simply typing what you choose to believe, not what really happened. You were not there.

Vicky weaver died because she was married to a moron.

The rest of you rant sounds like a Tim mcveigh support letter

Since: Aug 10

Rochester, NY

#203 Feb 13, 2013
JCL wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe they should have tried knocking on his door, after all, at that point had he hadn't done anything violent (in fact, he never did)...they didn't try that did they? They assumed he was violent and in the end he never took one shot at them. They spied on him, snuck onto his property - unannounced - made up lies that he was a violent white supremacist ready for fire-fight with the government. In fact, his daughter said the first they asked her was "Where are the booby traps?" She said she laughed, "What booby traps? Didn't you see our dogs running around the property carefree?"
According to witnesses during the siege, the FBI made it clear their intention was to kill the entire family; all over something they started.
There's a reason the government lost this spectacularly in the courts.
Like it or not, Weaver admitted under oath that he told his family to shoot first.

Weavers history shows that he is a violent and disturbed backwoods moron! he once ran a woman off the road becaus she said something about him....yeah Weaver is some saint! He and his son pulled guns on land surveyors, and even when the surveyors told them what they were doing, Weaver said he would shoot them if they didnt leave!

Weaver was known to be a violent person befire anything started with the feds! He is no hero!
Marko

Inman, SC

#204 Feb 13, 2013
FFS- wrote:
Vicki Weaver died of stupidity!
An odd thing happens when you shoot at federal agents...they shoot bacIk!
I understand that she was armed only with a 10 month old baby....How did she shoot at "Hooch"??

Since: Aug 10

Rochester, NY

#205 Feb 13, 2013
Marko wrote:
<quoted text>I understand that she was armed only with a 10 month old baby....How did she shoot at "Hooch"??
If you read the incident reports, both sides say that vicki was inside and was hit by a round that went through the door!

Her death was unintentional, but still caused by her husband's lack of common sense!
Anonymous

Fairfield, CA

#206 Feb 13, 2013
It was caused by trigger happy feds....and some
Idiotic fed plan to entrap weaver into breaking
The law by cutting down shotguns...so they
Could coerce him into infiltrating the aryan nations. I hope lon horiuchi comes down with a
Severe case of necrotizing faceitis which eats off
His jap face.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#207 Feb 13, 2013
destroyerofworlds wrote:
It was caused by trigger happy feds....and some
Idiotic fed plan to entrap weaver into breaking
The law by cutting down shotguns...so they
Could coerce him into infiltrating the aryan nations. I hope lon horiuchi comes down with a
Severe case of necrotizing faceitis which eats off
His jap face.
how's your revolution comin?
Anonymous

Fairfield, CA

#208 Feb 13, 2013
Havent you heard? We won.

Since: Aug 10

Hollis Center, ME

#209 Feb 14, 2013
destroyerofworlds wrote:
Havent you heard? We won.
who is we?

As far as I can tell your just a wannabe militia nut who types on his computer a lot.
BIG OTTO

United States

#210 Feb 21, 2013
OBEY OR DIE you filthy sheeple. WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU SLAVE. Soon you'll be micro-chipped and we'll know everything about you slave. Five billion of you useless eaters/expendable containers will be exterminated to save the planet for we elites. We call you untermensch the LEBENSUNWERTEN LEBEN (life unworthy of life). We are like Gods, you are scum. We will inherit the earth you schweinhund. SEIG HEIL.
fan of FFS

United States

#211 Feb 22, 2013
Why is FFS on the wrong side of every issue?
He supports Muslim terrorism in US.
He defends reckless big gov spending
He is against 2nd amendment
He is pro abortion
Pro Barry Hussein Obama

Since: Aug 10

Rochester, NY

#212 Feb 22, 2013
fan of FFS wrote:
Why is FFS on the wrong side of every issue?
He supports Muslim terrorism in US.
He defends reckless big gov spending
He is against 2nd amendment
He is pro abortion
Pro Barry Hussein Obama
Why are you so stupid son?

I am a 18 year member of the US military, and i have served in 3 seperate combat zones. I'm not some pathetic Wannabe militia fruitcake like you!

Now hurry up and keep typing your stupidity about some revolution youre starting. LOL

How is the fight coming anyhow? When will i see you do something other than whine on a blog?

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