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It is not possible to truly be Christian and be a conservative. The two religions contradict one another in their core beliefs and core values!

More than any other topic, Jesus preached LOVE....Conservatism's very basis is founded in hatred. Just look at the things the conservatives on Tpoix say...they hate everyone!

Christ preached forgiveness, conservatives are incapable. How many times have you heard a conservative say something like "hang em all", "round em up", or "we should just nuke em"?

Christ told us that we should give to the poor....shirt off your back...etc, Conservaives HATE the poor and DESPISE giving them anything

It is impossible to be both Christian and conservative.

I suggest you choose one or the other and stick with it!
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More liberal hogwash that is ignorant of the Scriptures. Conservatives are not against the poor but against those that use the system to live off hard working taxpayers!

Jesus said if a person will not work than they should not eat.

Welfare and SSI is a National Disgrace and should have been ended decades ago.
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FFS- wrote:
It is not possible to truly be Christian and be a conservative. The two religions contradict one another in their core beliefs and core values!
More than any other topic, Jesus preached LOVE....Conservatism's very basis is founded in hatred. Just look at the things the conservatives on Tpoix say...they hate everyone!
Christ preached forgiveness, conservatives are incapable. How many times have you heard a conservative say something like "hang em all", "round em up", or "we should just nuke em"?
Christ told us that we should give to the poor....shirt off your back...etc, Conservaives HATE the poor and DESPISE giving them anything
It is impossible to be both Christian and conservative.
I suggest you choose one or the other and stick with it!
Seeking a Christian conservative who knows America is a Christian nation, except when it comes to the sick, poor, war, torture and the death penalty.
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FFS- wrote:
It is not possible to truly be Christian and be a conservative. The two religions contradict one another in their core beliefs and core values!
More than any other topic, Jesus preached LOVE....Conservatism's very basis is founded in hatred. Just look at the things the conservatives on Tpoix say...they hate everyone!
Christ preached forgiveness, conservatives are incapable. How many times have you heard a conservative say something like "hang em all", "round em up", or "we should just nuke em"?
Christ told us that we should give to the poor....shirt off your back...etc, Conservaives HATE the poor and DESPISE giving them anything
It is impossible to be both Christian and conservative.
I suggest you choose one or the other and stick with it!
Conservatism is NOT a religion, it is a political and econmomic ideology. Conservatives embrace religion, we put our religion BEFORE our political beliefs. Unlike liberalism that slanders religion, and wants it out of as much of our lives as possible. To liberal their political ideology IS their religion. I resent your statement that conservatives "hate" the poor. We don't hate anyone. What we take issue with is the fraud and abuse in the system, and it is rampant throughout the welfare state. Their are "able bodied" people that have been on welfare their entire lives. In some families it's generational, handed down like a perverted legacy. That is the mistake liberals make about the conservative stance on welfare. If you are in LEGITAMATE need of help, we will help you. That is the CHRISTIAN thing to do. But there is a big difference in a hand up, and a handout. A hand up is assitance, and handout is the doorway to dependence. That is why I believe anyone on welfare for a predetermined amount of time should not be allowed to vote. If you are on the dole, and not contributing to the pot. You should have no say in how the pot is spent. Don't confuse Christ's forgiveness with liberal ineptitude and stupidity it ain't even up for debate. The bible also says an eye for an eye, but liberals don't believe in the death penalty do they? Don't come back with Thou shalt not kill either, because that doesn't apply. When God says you shouldn't kill he is referring to frivolous, malicious killing or murder. If you are going to follow Christ you can't cherry pick what you will and won't do for him, try again! Tea Party 2012
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More liberal hogwash that is ignorant of the Scriptures. Conservatives are not against the poor but against those that use the system to live off hard working taxpayers!
Jesus said if a person will not work than they should not eat.
Welfare and SSI is a National Disgrace and should have been ended decades ago.
JESUS never said any such thing!

PAUL said that in a letter to the THessalonians......Only somebody who is ignorant of the scriptures could make such a mistake!

You cannot be Christian and Conservative. Pick one or the other!
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There is a big difference in helping someone in need and helping someone who thinks that they have been wronged in some way and deserve entitlements from the cradle to the grave.

As for conservatives hollaring "round 'em up" lets not forget about that Progressive President that started Japanese Internment Camps in WWII. I believe he claimed to be a Christian also. Using your libtardian logic I guess progressives that claim to be Christians arent really Christians after all.

But please, keep ranting. Its amusing. LOL
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Yes you can be both providing you use good common sense for both.Unfortunatly too many so called CHRISTIANS bash others over the head because they read but dont understand the BIBLE.
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Supercalafradgelistic wrote:
There is a big difference in helping someone in need and helping someone who thinks that they have been wronged in some way and deserve entitlements from the cradle to the grave.
As for conservatives hollaring "round 'em up" lets not forget about that Progressive President that started Japanese Internment Camps in WWII. I believe he claimed to be a Christian also. Using your libtardian logic I guess progressives that claim to be Christians arent really Christians after all.
But please, keep ranting. Its amusing. LOL
I like that first paragraph. Its nice to know the excuses you use to justify your hatred of poor people

Seriously, You need to go back to WWII for you best retort? HAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA I love the deep thinking conservative mind! You'll grasp at anything
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Why WHAT hates social security is a mystery.Maybe he hates the elderly so he wants social security removed so that he can laugh at them
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<quoted text>I like that first paragraph. Its nice to know the excuses you use to justify your hatred of poor people
Seriously, You need to go back to WWII for you best retort? HAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHA I love the deep thinking conservative mind! You'll grasp at anything
Still cant take examples of your hypocrisy. Figures. You libtards sure are getting thin skinned. LOL :)

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Supercalafradgelistic wrote:
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Still cant take examples of your hypocrisy. Figures. You libtards sure are getting thin skinned. LOL :)
Yeah, I'm so bothered by a Refernce from eighty years ago?

You really are a weakling. As expected

You all have the same playbook, you're not bright enough to make a valid arguement, so you simply regurgitate what I say.

There are obvious reasons why universities are filled with liberal and NASCAR stands a full of conservatives.
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<quoted text>Yeah, I'm so bothered by a Refernce from eighty years ago?
You really are a weakling. As expected
You all have the same playbook, you're not bright enough to make a valid arguement, so you simply regurgitate what I say.
There are obvious reasons why universities are filled with liberal and NASCAR stands a full of conservatives.
More wisdom from an elitist pseudo-intellectual. LOL
I can understand if you are upset that I referenced a progressive actually carrying out a "round 'em up" policy vs. a conservative screaming it. For a more recent example you could look to Bill Maher and his calls for those who disagree to be locked up.

I sure wouldnt say your words are being regurgitated.(thats that superiority complex again) Its ok to get angry when you find out your points arent "gospel." LOL
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FFS- wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, I'm so bothered by a Refernce from eighty years ago?
You really are a weakling. As expected
You all have the same playbook, you're not bright enough to make a valid arguement, so you simply regurgitate what I say.
There are obvious reasons why universities are filled with liberal and NASCAR stands a full of conservatives.
The academics on Obama economic team sure arent doing to well. Its very different to go from the classroom into the real world. Also the same Ivy League schools that produced Obama produced Bush. Not very impressive.
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The academics on Obama economic team sure arent doing to well. Its very different to go from the classroom into the real world. Also the same Ivy League schools that produced Obama produced Bush. Not very impressive.
The big difference between Bush and Obama in the Ivy League schools is that Obama worked to accomplish going there and worked his way through, Bush on the other hand only got in because of his family name and money and buildings being named after his family!
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The big difference between Bush and Obama in the Ivy League schools is that Obama worked to accomplish going there and worked his way through, Bush on the other hand only got in because of his family name and money and buildings being named after his family!
Weiner has been proven innocent.
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The big difference between Bush and Obama in the Ivy League schools is that Obama worked to accomplish going there and worked his way through, Bush on the other hand only got in because of his family name and money and buildings being named after his family!
Obama only went to a Ivy League school because he is black and it was GIVEN to him on the backs of the tax payers.!!
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<quoted text>Obama only went to a Ivy League school because he is black and it was GIVEN to him on the backs of the tax payers.!!
Obama worked hard to get into school, worked while in school and worked to payback his student loans after school. Everyone gets grants of some kind for college. In your bigoted mind you assume that he got money because he is black. None of this takes away from the fact that Bush only got into Ivy League schools because of his family name and money the same way he got into the National Guard when there were no spots.
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Obama worked hard to get into school, worked while in school and worked to payback his student loans after school. Everyone gets grants of some kind for college. In your bigoted mind you assume that he got money because he is black. None of this takes away from the fact that Bush only got into Ivy League schools because of his family name and money the same way he got into the National Guard when there were no spots.
Not everyone gets grants. There are many who do get grants, however there are just as many who do not.
As for whether Bush or Obama were given special privileged, who gives a damn. The reality is they came from two different worlds and are two different people. Get over it. Neither are great presidents. We haven't had a great president in years.
Who cares if conservatives are christian? Seriously, it doesn't matter.
If you want to rant about something rant about the way big business in America is raping us all.
There is NO excuse for oil companies to be making billions each quarter when the working people have trouble being able to fill their tanks.
There is NO excuse for major US companies to pay little to no taxes just because a state wants them to have their headquarters located there.
There is NO excuse for the richest American's to pay a lower percentage in taxes because of all the loopholes and exemptions.
These are the problems in the US, not the fact that someone thinks that christians can't be conservatives.
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Not everyone gets grants. There are many who do get grants, however there are just as many who do not.
As for whether Bush or Obama were given special privileged, who gives a damn. The reality is they came from two different worlds and are two different people. Get over it. Neither are great presidents. We haven't had a great president in years.
Who cares if conservatives are christian? Seriously, it doesn't matter.
If you want to rant about something rant about the way big business in America is raping us all.
There is NO excuse for oil companies to be making billions each quarter when the working people have trouble being able to fill their tanks.
There is NO excuse for major US companies to pay little to no taxes just because a state wants them to have their headquarters located there.
There is NO excuse for the richest American's to pay a lower percentage in taxes because of all the loopholes and exemptions.
These are the problems in the US, not the fact that someone thinks that christians can't be conservatives.
My posts were in response to 'Mary Poppins' and 'sick of paying'. They brought up the old subjects. I have also stayed out of the conservative verses Christian crap. As for the rest of your post, i agree with you on all points 100%. I would add though that along with the profits to the oil companies they also recieve subsities from our tax dollars that the republicans voted to continue twice earlier this year.
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THe perfect example is Rick Perry's prayerfest the day before the report was released that he allows children to be raped by campaign contributors.

You cannot serve god and mammon both....Which means christianist and conservatism both

Choose one or the other!

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