D.C. to vote on $11.50 minimum wage

D.C. to vote on $11.50 minimum wage

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Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#735 Jan 2, 2014
Joe wrote:
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Failure??? I don't see myself as a failure. Oh, I failed to make a 3-point shot at the gym this morning. Haha.
You also don't consider yourself a parasite on the productive in this country, but you would be wrong there as well.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#736 Jan 2, 2014
Joe wrote:
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Look, you're a radical individualist who believes in capitalism. I don't. I don't believe in being judging people and reducing them to price tags.
Words like "earned" and "productive" are very subjective and can be applied in very narrow ways as you often do. Your words speak of insecurity with the need tear others down to build yourself up. It can be quite sadistic.
Geeez ... Your victim mentality is astounding. Words like earned and productive are what this country was built on. Not words like, government assistance, socialism, or income inequality, these would be the code words used by the takers in this country to attempt to justify why they are "entitled" to assistance on the backs of other taxpayers.

I am far from insecure Joe, and my words speak to the reality of life and the world. Again just to be clear, I have no need to build myself up, or tear you down. Your problem is that you don't like being called out on your dependency, lack of motivation, or lack of personal responsibility, and attempt to make it a humanity issue when you are called out on these. I have to wonder if that is because your life appears as abysmal to you as it does to others.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#737 Jan 2, 2014
I guess Joe, what I'm looking for is a valid reason as to why others in this country should subsidize you or those like you. Or how about the simple question, other than the fact that you want more money, what is the intellectual reasoning behind giving and individual more money for a task that requires little or no skill. Mind you I said intellectual reason not an emotional reason.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#738 Jan 2, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
I guess Joe, what I'm looking for is a valid reason as to why others in this country should subsidize you or those like you. Or how about the simple question, other than the fact that you want more money, what is the intellectual reasoning behind giving and individual more money for a task that requires little or no skill. Mind you I said intellectual reason not an emotional reason.
You have become so indoctrinated by capitalism that you fail to see the humanity behind a living wage. I would hope that you understand the economic rationale behind a living wage, but that seems to have gone over your head as well.

You and other radicals of your kind wish to create or perhaps maintain neo-economic slavery. Cheap labor means more profit for the 1%. On a psychological level your sense of security must always be measured in monetary value, and that security increases when capitalists have created a permanent underclass.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#739 Jan 2, 2014
Joe wrote:
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You have become so indoctrinated by capitalism that you fail to see the humanity behind a living wage. I would hope that you understand the economic rationale behind a living wage, but that seems to have gone over your head as well.
You and other radicals of your kind wish to create or perhaps maintain neo-economic slavery. Cheap labor means more profit for the 1%. On a psychological level your sense of security must always be measured in monetary value, and that security increases when capitalists have created a permanent underclass.
So what your saying is that you cannot supply an "intellectual" reason as to why no skilled positions should be paid more.

So with that I will once again state, that you Joe, and those like you appear to be hardly deserving of the menial positions that you currently maintain and are most likely overpaid when based on your contribution level. I'm sure when you have nothing it is easy to say that this guy has more so he should he should have a responsibility to assist. But in the real world Joe .... Everyone is responsible for themselves and their families ... nothing more nothing less.

The Joe's of this world are nothing more than cobblestones that the productive walk upon, on their way to work. If you had the qualities and qualifications that you claim, you would not be on the internet crying for raising the minimum wage, you would be making a living like the rest of us. As you apparently are not, one can only assume that either you lied in regards to your education and qualification, or you are as lazy and unmotivated as I have claimed. Either way it is the bed you made.
maybe 15 dollars a hour

Dothan, AL

#742 Jan 3, 2014
maybe 15 dollars a hour to all they maybe need this to live on. some people are maybe hungry.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#743 Jan 3, 2014
maybe 15 dollars a hour wrote:
maybe 15 dollars a hour to all they maybe need this to live on. some people are maybe hungry.
$15/hour or a $25K minimum salary would be fair and humane.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#744 Jan 3, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>So what your saying is that you cannot supply an "intellectual" reason as to why no skilled positions should be paid more.

So with that I will once again state, that you Joe, and those like you appear to be hardly deserving of the menial positions that you currently maintain and are most likely overpaid when based on your contribution level. I'm sure when you have nothing it is easy to say that this guy has more so he should he should have a responsibility to assist. But in the real world Joe .... Everyone is responsible for themselves and their families ... nothing more nothing less.

The Joe's of this world are nothing more than cobblestones that the productive walk upon, on their way to work. If you had the qualities and qualifications that you claim, you would not be on the internet crying for raising the minimum wage, you would be making a living like the rest of us. As you apparently are not, one can only assume that either you lied in regards to your education and qualification, or you are as lazy and unmotivated as I have claimed. Either way it is the bed you made.
LOL... I don't need to prove myself to you or anyone for that matter.
Terry

United States

#745 Jan 4, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
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Entry level jobs are suppose to motivate you to improve yourself, education level and work ethics so you can find your career. Do you want to spend the rest of your life working behind the counter at McDonalds? Is your ambition only worth $11.50 an hour? You need to think about that, real hard!
Exactly! Do burger flippers get paid as much as software, infrastructure, Aircraft, and broadcast engineers? If everyone's work is valued the same, then what's the point in advancement? How then do we assign value to anything?

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#748 Jan 5, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
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Unless you throw a monkey wrench into the system, the supply and demand of employment works pretty good.
Your worth as an employee is only that of what somebody else would do the same job for. That's it.
Years ago I was repairing and delivering medical equipment. My company wanted me to go to electronics school so I could get more in depth repairing the electronic parts of our equipment. So I went.
After a few months, I asked my teacher about the pay scale once I graduate and get my FCC license? He told me I would be worth about 16 grand a year. Shocked at the answer, I asked him what I would be worth if I stayed in school for two years and got my Associates Degree in electronics? He told me about 18 grand a year. Hell, I was making more than that already.
Electronics is a lot of studying, a lot of money for the school, and a lot of time. The reason it didn't pay anything is because there were so many other people interested in the field. After I had that discussion with my teacher, I went to the want ads to see what was out there for people with that kind of education. Very few jobs if any, and those jobs didn't pay squat. So I quit the school.
0failurecare is the biggest monkey wrench since affirmative action. It should have had a provision in it closing law schools while opening medical and nursing schools. Instead it will have the opposite effect.

Liberals have perpetrated a myth that simply going to college entitles someone to a living. They've done this because they've turned our education into an organized crime racket... because parents will pay anything.

A good friend of mine's father has an ivy league engineering degree. He's a licensed electrician. His sons all went to college for various disciplines too, and now work for him. The degrees were unnecessary, but certainly not a waste.

I tell many young men to consider military service, a trade like plumbing and getting a library card to save on the exorbitant cost of college. Education never ceases, except for narrow minded liberals.
put kinsey alabama town

Dothan, AL

#751 Jan 5, 2014
maybe 15 dollars a hour wrote:
maybe 15 dollars a hour to all they maybe need this to live on. some people are maybe hungry.
we need more imf wrote:

hall meetings on tv most let the people see what is maybe going on in its town ..we should see what the town is spending on a grant that the town got a $224,036 cdbg think this is maybe got in 2012 its public and we should see what the monies is spent on!!!!!!!!!!
how you get up to Washington you have news on what people have to pay for sewage and water in Kinsey Alabama. well we see that the town maybe got a big grant and they should put all people on Kinsey sewage look at all the monies the town can make. a lot of people not on the town sewage. and this has been going on for over 34 years. we need to know what they spend all the towns monies on. they need to put the town hall meetings on tv most people do but why not Kinsey Alabama. us folks need to know more things that maybe has gone on but how maybe we will know all that maybe took place. people are trying to help us to see whats really maybe happens in our town.
kinsey alabama needs

Dothan, AL

#752 Jan 5, 2014
D.C. to vote on $11.50 minimum wage. more money to pay huge water and sewage bills. our town needs to think about all the people not just maybe the chosen ones. we need new people in office. all we maybe got now is maybe kinfolk in office.this town has been like this for maybe 35 years.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#753 Jan 6, 2014
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL... I don't need to prove myself to you or anyone for that matter.
Yes .. of course you don't. Look how well that attitude has taken you in life. You are quite the success at being a failure.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#754 Jan 6, 2014
Aphelion wrote:
<quoted text>Yes .. of course you don't. Look how well that attitude has taken you in life. You are quite the success at being a failure.
Once again, you throw around words like "success" and "failure" as if your opinion is fact. The only thing you have proved is that you're nothing but a mean right-wing blowhard. If indeed you do have a job, I suspect you're not well-liked among co-workers.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#755 Jan 6, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>Liberals are always crying about who makes how much money, but seldom if ever cry about the profits colleges make, or their buddies in Hollywood or other entertainment industries.

I've listened to authors of books talking about the value of college and whether it would be worth it or not. It seems that to get a good education from a good college can run you well over $200,000 by the time it's all over. Then you have to include your loss of income all those years while in college.

The biggest problem I see with advanced education are kids that have no idea what they want to do once they leave college. Then they choose "fun" courses that have little or no job opportunities. My nephew got married a few years ago and has a good job. But his wife too is a college graduate and she majored in advertising. Advertising?

Now she regrets what field of work she chose, but she took the advice from the egg heads at the school she attended. She's on her third job now--doesn't make any real money and hates it as much as the last two jobs she had. And this is common with a lot of college grads.
Real good advice. Telling students not to enroll in college. Absurd.
Joe

Chalfont, PA

#756 Jan 6, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
<quoted text>0failurecare is the biggest monkey wrench since affirmative action. It should have had a provision in it closing law schools while opening medical and nursing schools. Instead it will have the opposite effect.

Liberals have perpetrated a myth that simply going to college entitles someone to a living. They've done this because they've turned our education into an organized crime racket... because parents will pay anything.

A good friend of mine's father has an ivy league engineering degree. He's a licensed electrician. His sons all went to college for various disciplines too, and now work for him. The degrees were unnecessary, but certainly not a waste.

I tell many young men to consider military service, a trade like plumbing and getting a library card to save on the exorbitant cost of college. Education never ceases, except for narrow minded liberals.
I have to take exception. Media reports indicate that millions of Americans enrolled in Obamacare on 1/1. Seems like a success.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#757 Jan 6, 2014
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again, you throw around words like "success" and "failure" as if your opinion is fact. The only thing you have proved is that you're nothing but a mean right-wing blowhard. If indeed you do have a job, I suspect you're not well-liked among co-workers.
Once again Joe, you can't claim to be a success or successful when you require others to subsidize your existence. That is of course unless your goal is to be a parasite on other Americans ... then you are correct ... you are a success.

You're like a little child. Someone doesn't agree with your position ... they must be mean! Your juvenile chiding is just another example of the mentality that fuels your failure.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#758 Jan 6, 2014
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Real good advice. Telling students not to enroll in college. Absurd.
That's not what the poster stated. On top of all your other failings, you appear to also have abysmal reading comprehension. Poor Joe.... the cards of life just appear stacked against you.
Aphelion

Satellite Beach, FL

#759 Jan 6, 2014
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to take exception. Media reports indicate that millions of Americans enrolled in Obamacare on 1/1. Seems like a success.
You would be the least credible source on the planet to judge success.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#760 Jan 6, 2014
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to take exception. Media reports indicate that millions of Americans enrolled in Obamacare on 1/1. Seems like a success.
Search 30 hours 50 employees. These are the thresholds that 0failurecare begins to kill businesses. These are the business that create the most jobs and grow the economy best in the opinion of most real economists. Apple Computer started in Steve Jobs parent's garage.

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