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Verdict of 'Not Guilty' in Bizarre D.C. Slay Case

There are 61 comments on the EDGEsanfrancisco.com News Feed story from Jun 30, 2010, titled Verdict of 'Not Guilty' in Bizarre D.C. Slay Case. In it, EDGEsanfrancisco.com News Feed reports that:

The trial of three gay housemates in the slaying of a straight houseguest four years ago reached a conclusion that many found startling: a verdict of innocence.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1 Jun 30, 2010
The verdict was just. There was no motive, and the one particular piece of forensics involved--the knife--could not be found to be the murder weapon.

The judge did what she needed to do--rule that the prosecutor had not proven its case.

Wow--what a surprise--now the widow wants to cash in. I guess husbands come and go, but bank accounts are forever.

Since: Apr 07

Morrison, IL

#2 Jun 30, 2010
They said his semen was "harvested", perhaps by a shock to his prostate?! What kind of rapist forces the victim to ejaculate? Besides, I thought Dan Savage's column put that prostate myth to rest.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#3 Jun 30, 2010
There was a tv show on the other nite on one of those real-life crime show documentaries. A woman upstate New York disappeared. They never found her body, nor a murder weapon, so a cause of death, if there WAS a death, could be determined. After a long investigation, her husband was arrested, tried and convicted. He was sentenced to the maximum, which is 25 years to life. He appealed, and his conviction was tossed out.

He was retried, and a second jury found him guilty once again. The judge once again sentenced him to the maximum sentence.

And this case, for which the husband was found guilty by a jury TWICE, was without a body, or murder weapon, nor any proof at all that the woman was even dead.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#4 Jun 30, 2010
Fortunately, the DC case wasn't as much of a travesty.
Frank Stanton wrote:
There was a tv show on the other nite on one of those real-life crime show documentaries. A woman upstate New York disappeared. They never found her body, nor a murder weapon, so a cause of death, if there WAS a death, could be determined. After a long investigation, her husband was arrested, tried and convicted. He was sentenced to the maximum, which is 25 years to life. He appealed, and his conviction was tossed out.
He was retried, and a second jury found him guilty once again. The judge once again sentenced him to the maximum sentence.
And this case, for which the husband was found guilty by a jury TWICE, was without a body, or murder weapon, nor any proof at all that the woman was even dead.
MrSir

United States

#5 Jun 30, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
There was a tv show on the other nite on one of those real-life crime show documentaries. A woman upstate New York disappeared. They never found her body, nor a murder weapon, so a cause of death, if there WAS a death, could be determined. After a long investigation, her husband was arrested, tried and convicted. He was sentenced to the maximum, which is 25 years to life. He appealed, and his conviction was tossed out.
He was retried, and a second jury found him guilty once again. The judge once again sentenced him to the maximum sentence.
And this case, for which the husband was found guilty by a jury TWICE, was without a body, or murder weapon, nor any proof at all that the woman was even dead.
Hmmmmmm, You should divide that into FOUR PARTS , Add some commercials and shop it around to the NetWorks ( As GARBAGE )
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#6 Jun 30, 2010
MrSir wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmmmm, You should divide that into FOUR PARTS , Add some commercials and shop it around to the NetWorks ( As GARBAGE )
It was on tv a couple of nites ago.

There's one case I know of (i'm not saying it's the ONLY case like this), where a guy in Britain in the early 20th century, was accused of murdering his wife. He fled to Canada with his mistress, but was arrested at the Canadian pier by officials who traveled there on a faster ship to apprehend him.

He was brought back to Britain, tried, convicted and hanged. They DID have his wife's body, or so they thought.

A few years ago, DNA analysis was done on the supposed body of his wife. It turned out that the body was NOT that of his wife.

Furthermore, there is good evidence that his wife left England for Ohio, where she lived with her sister, and died decades after her husband was executed for her "murder".

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#7 Jun 30, 2010
The jury is out on this with me. What I find unbelievable is the following from the story "The August 2, 2006 stabbing death of Robert Wone has never been solved, but one theory about the murder of the straight lawyer is that one or more of the three gay men who lived together in the house where Wone died murdered him, and then all three coordinated in cleaning up the scene and creating a story that they all stuck to, despite its improbable nature: that an unknown intruder had entered their upscale Dupont Circle residence, quickly made a beeline to the guest room where Wone was staying, stabbed the straight houseguest to death, and then slipped out once more, all without making enough noise to alert the house’s occupants that something was amiss."

How does that happen..... Normally there is some level of a struggle with someone trying to fight back. The three roommates would have heard something.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#8 Jun 30, 2010
StevenFL wrote:
The jury is out on this with me. What I find unbelievable is the following from the story "The August 2, 2006 stabbing death of Robert Wone has never been solved, but one theory about the murder of the straight lawyer is that one or more of the three gay men who lived together in the house where Wone died murdered him, and then all three coordinated in cleaning up the scene and creating a story that they all stuck to, despite its improbable nature: that an unknown intruder had entered their upscale Dupont Circle residence, quickly made a beeline to the guest room where Wone was staying, stabbed the straight houseguest to death, and then slipped out once more, all without making enough noise to alert the house’s occupants that something was amiss."
How does that happen..... Normally there is some level of a struggle with someone trying to fight back. The three roommates would have heard something.
How come nobody heard anything when Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered, or when Polly Klass was kidnapped ? Both crimes occurred in the victim's homes with many people on the premises. I don't know why. Apparently nobody else (except the murderers) know why either. Some crimes just don't get solved. Because of police screw-ups, other factors, or both.

What happened to Natalee Holloway or Judge Crater ?

We just don't know.
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#9 Jun 30, 2010
And Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.
MrSir

United States

#10 Jun 30, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
How come nobody heard anything when Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered, or when Polly Klass was kidnapped ? Both crimes occurred in the victim's homes with many people on the premises. I don't know why. Apparently nobody else (except the murderers) know why either. Some crimes just don't get solved. Because of police screw-ups, other factors, or both.
What happened to Natalee Holloway or Judge Crater ?
We just don't know.
Hmmmmmmm, Maybe its a "Conspiracie" headed by JIMMY HOFFA ??????. Considering ( Most ) 3-Way Relationships dont last , Someday One of the 3 Men will turn "Trader/Snich"( or threaten to ), And end up dead himself ?( One Lil ,Two Lil ,Three Lil'Indians )Especialy after thier sued and have to pay Wongs Mother $$$$$$( Life Insurance Anyone ???)
Frank Stanton

Saratoga Springs, NY

#11 Jun 30, 2010
MrSir wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmmmmm, Maybe its a "Conspiracie" headed by JIMMY HOFFA ??????. Considering ( Most ) 3-Way Relationships dont last , Someday One of the 3 Men will turn "Trader/Snich"( or threaten to ), And end up dead himself ?( One Lil ,Two Lil ,Three Lil'Indians )Especialy after thier sued and have to pay Wongs Mother $$$$$$( Life Insurance Anyone ???)
All I'm saying is that crimes occur, a mystery remains, and they are never solved.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#12 Jun 30, 2010
I've just finished reading the judge's 38 page final order in this case and you can describe it as not guilty of the charges that were filed, but at least one or more of the three is real f*cking guilty of crime that they weren't charged with, namely the murder of Robert Wone. But since she was not asked whether or not these defendants were guilty of murder, only whether Zaborsky and Ward were guilty of obstructing justice and Price of tampering with evidence, after a careful analysis of the facts and evidence of those charges, she had no choice to conclude that the charges had not been proved beyond a reasonable doubt.

The more salacious facts of this case did not end up in her final order, I guess she determined them to be irrelevant. I think that her most interesting conclusion was that the bloody knife found on the nightstand was in fact the murder weapon and that Price had (at least) pulled the knife from the victim's chest and had wiped the handle, as well as part of the blade, with the bloody towel on the floor. However the prosecution didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he had done this in an effort to obscure evidence as it could be reasonably seen as the act of someone who had just done something stupid, namely someone pulling the murder weapon from the chest of a friend they had just found dead.

You can read the judge's decision here:
http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/wp-content/u...
You can read everything you ever wanted to know about this case and then some at:
http://whomurderedrobertwone.com/

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#13 Jun 30, 2010
That sounds like Dr. Crippen:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_...
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
It was on tv a couple of nites ago.
There's one case I know of (i'm not saying it's the ONLY case like this), where a guy in Britain in the early 20th century, was accused of murdering his wife. He fled to Canada with his mistress, but was arrested at the Canadian pier by officials who traveled there on a faster ship to apprehend him.
He was brought back to Britain, tried, convicted and hanged. They DID have his wife's body, or so they thought.
A few years ago, DNA analysis was done on the supposed body of his wife. It turned out that the body was NOT that of his wife.
Furthermore, there is good evidence that his wife left England for Ohio, where she lived with her sister, and died decades after her husband was executed for her "murder".

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#14 Jun 30, 2010
If wone was asleep, there may have been very little struggle, if any.

There simply isn't any motive for these three to have killed him, much less in such a bizarre fashion. Wone was well-known and married; if they had some penchant for killing an asian man, they could easily have gotten a hustler who probably couldn't even be traced to them to begin with.
StevenFL wrote:
The jury is out on this with me. What I find unbelievable is the following from the story "The August 2, 2006 stabbing death of Robert Wone has never been solved, but one theory about the murder of the straight lawyer is that one or more of the three gay men who lived together in the house where Wone died murdered him, and then all three coordinated in cleaning up the scene and creating a story that they all stuck to, despite its improbable nature: that an unknown intruder had entered their upscale Dupont Circle residence, quickly made a beeline to the guest room where Wone was staying, stabbed the straight houseguest to death, and then slipped out once more, all without making enough noise to alert the house’s occupants that something was amiss."
How does that happen..... Normally there is some level of a struggle with someone trying to fight back. The three roommates would have heard something.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#15 Jun 30, 2010
I don't remember anyone saying it was a threesome. And it's "wone'.
MrSir wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmmmmm, Maybe its a "Conspiracie" headed by JIMMY HOFFA ??????. Considering ( Most ) 3-Way Relationships dont last , Someday One of the 3 Men will turn "Trader/Snich"( or threaten to ), And end up dead himself ?( One Lil ,Two Lil ,Three Lil'Indians )Especialy after thier sued and have to pay Wongs Mother $$$$$$( Life Insurance Anyone ???)
bbbb

Rockville, MD

#16 Jun 30, 2010
"If wone was asleep, there may have been very little struggle, if any."

If you are asleep and get stabbed, you will definitely have an involuntary reaction and bodily movement.

"There simply isn't any motive for these three to have killed him,"

Just like there's no reason for any heterosexual male to rape and then kill a woman, right?

"much less in such a bizarre fashion."

You should have seen one of their personal ads on a S&M site. It listed some very bizarre personal interests.

"Wone was well-known"

Perhaps in his own professional circle, but ask a bunch of random people on the street who is Robert Wone, and most won't know.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17 Jun 30, 2010
If you are asleep and get stabbed by someone who is larger than yourself, you may not get a chance to struggle, especially depending on the initial stab. If I were to stab you at the base of the brain, there would be no struggle at all.

The prosecutor's theory held that this was premeditated; that requires some kind of motive. A man who rapes and then kills a woman does so usually out of rage, or to cover his tracks. Calling 911 and telling them there is a murder in your house is not covering your tracks; all they had to do was gt rid of the body and no one would have been the wiser. My question is, why is a straight married man sleeping at the home of three gay men?

Feel free to link to these ads. I doubt they asked for someone from whom they could extract semen electrically. There are S&M toys that utilize electricity, but I've not seen one yet that was designed to jolt the prostate into ejaculation against he submissive's will. What would be the point? Most S&M isn't even about sex.

By well-known, I would presume it would be within his profession. Most people have no idea who susan rice is, and she's the ambassador to the freaking UN. Personal fame doesn't necessarily depend on the uninformed.
bbbb wrote:
"If wone was asleep, there may have been very little struggle, if any."
If you are asleep and get stabbed, you will definitely have an involuntary reaction and bodily movement.
"There simply isn't any motive for these three to have killed him,"
Just like there's no reason for any heterosexual male to rape and then kill a woman, right?
"much less in such a bizarre fashion."
You should have seen one of their personal ads on a S&M site. It listed some very bizarre personal interests.
"Wone was well-known"
Perhaps in his own professional circle, but ask a bunch of random people on the street who is Robert Wone, and most won't know.

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#18 Jul 1, 2010
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
How come nobody heard anything when Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered, or when Polly Klass was kidnapped ? Both crimes occurred in the victim's homes with many people on the premises. I don't know why. Apparently nobody else (except the murderers) know why either. Some crimes just don't get solved. Because of police screw-ups, other factors, or both.
What happened to Natalee Holloway or Judge Crater ?
We just don't know.
Furthermore, the first line states that a verdict of innocence was found for the defendants. Impossible. No one is ever found innocent in a court of law. They are either found guilty or not guilty. The defendants were found NOT GUILTY. That either means Washington DC did not have enough evidence against the 3, the defendants did not do the crime, and/or the defense attorney did his or her job and cleared them. It does not hardly mean that they were innocent. I have sat in on enough court cases to know how it works.

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#19 Jul 1, 2010
MrSir wrote:
<quoted text>Hmmmmmmm, Maybe its a "Conspiracie" headed by JIMMY HOFFA ??????. Considering ( Most ) 3-Way Relationships dont last , Someday One of the 3 Men will turn "Trader/Snich"( or threaten to ), And end up dead himself ?( One Lil ,Two Lil ,Three Lil'Indians )Especialy after thier sued and have to pay Wongs Mother $$$$$$( Life Insurance Anyone ???)
However, that will turn into a double jeopardy situation. You can not try someone on the same crime twice. It was either now or never on this. It does not clear them from other civil suits like wrongful death, etc from the family members of the victim. Good examples of this was with the OJ Simpson trial.

“I am happy”

Since: Jul 08

St. Petersburg, FL

#20 Jul 1, 2010
cpeter1313 wrote:
If wone was asleep, there may have been very little struggle, if any.
There simply isn't any motive for these three to have killed him, much less in such a bizarre fashion. Wone was well-known and married; if they had some penchant for killing an asian man, they could easily have gotten a hustler who probably couldn't even be traced to them to begin with.
<quoted text>
Who and why does a motive come into play? Plenty of crimes have motives, but some don't. I just find it hard to believe that an intruder broke into the home, killed Wone, then walked out willy-nilly like nothing happened and then left 3 potential witnesses in the house that may have remained quiet if they heard any signs of a struggle. Most killers would go after the other members in the house. Furthermore, you have a point, all 3 of them may have known the killer and the killer may have threatened them, in some way to keep quiet. Either way, all three of them are extremely duplicitous.

None of this passes the smell test with me. But, hey, they were found not guilty and plenty of people that are tried for crimes get freed by the justice system.:) Not saying it is right, since plenty of innocent people go to jail or even death row.

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