Watchtower's Move to Warwick? 'Not Any Time Soon'

Oct 24, 2011 Full story: The Brooklyn Daily Eagle 17

In response to all the media interest in when the Jehovah's Witnesses will be moving out of Brooklyn Heights, the religious organization can only say, "It won't be any time soon." The focus in Crain's New York Business and then other media last week was on the potential beneficiaries of all the properties the Witnesses will be vacating with the ... (more)

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Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#1 Oct 24, 2011
They are building near wetlands?

Oh dear...anytime Teary hears the word "wetlands" in conjunction with any kind of development he cringes...the regulations for wetlands are a nightmare, not to mention the environmental whackos that will come out of the woodworks and try to sue you at every turn.

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#2 Oct 24, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
They are building near wetlands?
Oh dear...anytime Teary hears the word "wetlands" in conjunction with any kind of development he cringes...the regulations for wetlands are a nightmare, not to mention the environmental whackos that will come out of the woodworks and try to sue you at every turn.
Yeah, those who want to protect the earth, even say, try to envision something of a paradisaical nature, are whackos.

Since: Jan 09

The lost city of Shangri La

#3 Oct 24, 2011
Mythbusters wrote:
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Yeah, those who want to protect the earth, even say, try to envision something of a paradisaical nature, are whackos.
You haven't ever been around any kind of business that does development of land have you?

Preserving nature is all fine and dandy yes, but at the present time human needs should come before saving a few lizards or a certain type of frog.

“Live, Laugh, Love”

Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#4 Oct 24, 2011
Mythbusters wrote:
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Yeah, those who want to protect the earth, even say, try to envision something of a paradisaical nature, are whackos.
Don't you love the double standard? JWs preach the end of ALL but themselves so they can turn the earth into a paradise for 7 million or so of their kind. But while the earth remains in its "un-paradise" state, it is okay to wipe out whatever is needed so the WTS can add to its billion dollar empire.

“Live, Laugh, Love”

Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#5 Oct 24, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
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You haven't ever been around any kind of business that does development of land have you?
Preserving nature is all fine and dandy yes, but at the present time human needs should come before saving a few lizards or a certain type of frog.
The WTS and religious corporations are not human needs. Wow.
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#6 Oct 24, 2011
Hope Ember wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you love the double standard? JWs preach the end of ALL but themselves so they can turn the earth into a paradise for 7 million or so of their kind. But while the earth remains in its "un-paradise" state, it is okay to wipe out whatever is needed so the WTS can add to its billion dollar empire.
Just what use will money be in paradise? I don't think the WTS really thinks the end is coming anytime soon hence the accumulation of wealth. If the end is soon then they should be worried because they don't follow Christ footsteps nor do they teach the Good News of the bible.

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#7 Oct 24, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
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You haven't ever been around any kind of business that does development of land have you?
Preserving nature is all fine and dandy yes, but at the present time human needs should come before saving a few lizards or a certain type of frog.
one way or another they will have to obey the law of the land wont they, and if the law says we want to protect a species so be it, one would think with all those nature parts in the awake they would care about a species, but then when it come to expansion, no business gives a hoot.

Now let see we have the special talk to be given at the KH in November TMS about being a generous cheerful giver!! wonder how many millions more they need, could it be new court cases coming up on molested JW kids, they may need us to give more to pay out gag orders, to protect their image, as most JW if they really believed the truth about all this and just how wealthy the org is will cut back even more from donating which they already seem to be doing.

“Live, Laugh, Love”

Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#8 Oct 24, 2011
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Just what use will money be in paradise? I don't think the WTS really thinks the end is coming anytime soon hence the accumulation of wealth. If the end is soon then they should be worried because they don't follow Christ footsteps nor do they teach the Good News of the bible.
Exactly. What use will money be and why keep piling it up? They know the truth, but to let the cat out of the bag means "see ya members!"

Preaching a false gospel of doom and gloom and "The end is just a whisper away! Join us!" means possible recruits for churches or individual leaders. Most people are aware of Camping did. What a laugh. He had followers, too. If these people would shut off men and open their Bibles they would put the doomsayers out of commission.

I blame the blind members as much as anyone. They want to be led along a leash, they willingly follow these false prophets.

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Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#9 Oct 24, 2011
*are aware of what Camping did

*want to be led along on a leash

“Bustin' Myths”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#10 Oct 24, 2011
Tears of Oberon wrote:
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You haven't ever been around any kind of business that does development of land have you?
Preserving nature is all fine and dandy yes, but at the present time human needs should come before saving a few lizards or a certain type of frog.
So, JWs can include themselves as "those ruining the earth".

Exactly what human "need" are you talking about? The WTB&TS has no "need" for a new compound. They are conducting business where they are.

If God knows when a sparrow falls, then I imagine he will be fairly disgusted that his "chosen mouthpiece" has no respect or regard for other of his creatures.

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Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#11 Oct 24, 2011
Mythbusters wrote:
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So, JWs can include themselves as "those ruining the earth".
Exactly what human "need" are you talking about? The WTB&TS has no "need" for a new compound. They are conducting business where they are.
If God knows when a sparrow falls, then I imagine he will be fairly disgusted that his "chosen mouthpiece" has no respect or regard for other of his creatures.
Well said.

“GOD'S TRUTHS *NEVER* CHANGE”

Since: Aug 09

A SMALL VILLAGE IN UPSTATE NY

#12 Oct 24, 2011
Mythbusters wrote:
<quoted text>
So, JWs can include themselves as "those ruining the earth".

Exactly what human "need" are you talking about? The WTB&TS has no "need" for a new compound. They are conducting business where they are.

If God knows when a sparrow falls, then I imagine he will be fairly disgusted that his "chosen mouthpiece" has no respect or regard for other of his creatures.
Can you say greedy? The WTS reps have proven that they do not care about the planet they live on and share with others.....but they do not believe "this evil system" (TM) will be ending anytime soon. Who plans extensive construction and development of the land for years in advance if they truly believe the rubbish they have been promoting for a century?

What about all their devoted followers that are having a very tough time just to financially care for their families while the WTS reps throw themselves into their real estate ventures?

The third petition of the Lord's Prayer is repeated daily by millions who have not the slightest intention of letting anyone's will be done but their own.

"We are the only species destroying Mother Earth!" Chief Arvol Looking Horse.

"Native Americans feel that the road to technology.... has led modern society to a damaged and seared earth. Could it be that the road to technology represents a rush to destruction, and that the road to spirituality represents the slower path that the traditional native people have traveled and are now seeking again?".......William Commanda, Mamiwinini, Canada, 1991

Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things are connected. Man does not weave this web of life. He is merely a strand of it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself.....Chief Seattle, chief of the Suquamis

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Since: Sep 09

Field of Flowers

#13 Oct 24, 2011
In Revelation 11:18 we read that God will destroy those destroying the earth.

I think about the horrid destruction on earth with things like the gulf oil spill, all the pollution, smog and litter, the wiping out of acres upon acres of the Rain Forest, and acres upon acres of tree-filled land and farm fields for urban development (deforestation), endangered species, extinct species species..... The list goes on.

Mankind has completely disrespected the home God gave us, don't care in the least for our natural environment. It boils down to what they can accomplish for monetary gains and our precious eco-systems, the air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, doesn't matter in the least.

The Judds sand "Grandpa Tell Me About the Good Old Days" and these lyrics came to mind:

"Grandpa, everything is changing fast
We call it progress
But I just don't know
And Grandpa, let's wander back into the past
And paint me the picture
Of long ago"

What man has called "progress" has only hurt us, hurt our environment in the long run.
remnant143999

Rio Rancho, NM

#14 Jan 6, 2012
They are building a paradise for the governing body. Are they the 1%?
remnant143999

Rio Rancho, NM

#15 Jan 17, 2012
If they preach the end is near why not rent. I'm sure there are plenty of empty building in their area, their landlord would pay property taxes and just add it to their rent like every landlord does.Wtbts could use their savings to help the newly comming jw baby boomers in need and again their hands would stay clean.
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#16 Jan 17, 2012
remnant143999 wrote:
If they preach the end is near why not rent. I'm sure there are plenty of empty building in their area, their landlord would pay property taxes and just add it to their rent like every landlord does.Wtbts could use their savings to help the newly comming jw baby boomers in need and again their hands would stay clean.
Excellent post. Why are they accumulating all this wealthy...
1.is it because they think they can take it with them:
Matt 10:24 NIV
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
2. They don't believe the end is any where in sight.
3. The following of Jesus or God is just lip service to fool people into becoming free laborers of a publishing company that's main object is the accumulation of wealth and power over their fellow man. Wealth and power are the main objects not the salvation of man's soul through Jesus Christ for there is no salvation through an org of men.

Since: Jun 11

Perth, Australia

#17 Jan 17, 2012
Wow, the article states the following
"The Times Herald-Record reported that in the Ulster County town of Shawangunk, where the Witnesses have property in the hamlet of Wallkill, they helped the town demolish and rebuild its town hall."
Do they know what a town hall is used for?

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