Obama taking our guns away
Well well

Oak Ridge, TN

#22 Jan 21, 2013
Ralph wrote:
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You are one ignorant bastard. You can't spell and that makes me believe you can't read and if you can't read you can't understand. You have absolutely no logic in your stupid brain. So why don't you try to educate yourself and shut up till you know something about what you're yapping about. You will be surprised to learn that you are getting to keep your guns but you might have to follow some laws and rules passed to try to protect our citizens and little children as best we can.Or you might be crazy enough to not be able to keep you guns, which I suspect is the case and you know it. Thank you for listening.
"Ralph" and "Patsy," people can see that you're the same person.

Your grammar is equivalent to an English student in the 5th grade.

Perhaps you should focus on your own educational attributes prior to criticizing others for the lack of it.
yep yep
#24 Jan 22, 2013
yea new york has one of the strictest gun laws right now. They didn't ban assault rifles they just gotta register it in if they have one and the state is gonna record how much ammunition you buy to for any gun
liberal hater

Chesterfield, SC

#25 Jan 23, 2013
yep yep wrote:
yea new york has one of the strictest gun laws right now. They didn't ban assault rifles they just gotta register it in if they have one and the state is gonna record how much ammunition you buy to for any gun
thats what the fellow above was trying to say they aren't gonna quit, they want all the guns or ammo,And won't quit till they do.... But that idiot wants to jump on spelling. Or grammar..I hate people that think they are perfect.... they are the ones you usually. Have to watch out for,
liberal hater

Chesterfield, SC

#26 Jan 23, 2013
Screw you ralphy what a name...bet you were bullied in school. Thats why such good grammar huh!!! Retard!
anonymous

Wartburg, TN

#27 Jan 23, 2013
I'm up in the air on the whole gun control thing. I've not really made up my mind but reading the pro-gun peoples comments really makes me think they at least, do not have the mental maturity to own weapons.

I mean look at this... "oboma" and "bloboma" what? Are you making fun of his name (which is second grade stuff mind you.) or do you really not know how to spell it?

Also no one can seam to string together a proper sentence. I mean my grammar and spelling isn't the best in the world but at least take the time to run my posts through spell check.

If you can't write it makes me think you can't really read your gun safety manuals well enough to understand what they say.
From somewhere

Honolulu, HI

#28 Jan 24, 2013
solution wrote:
Every single comment on this topic is either ignorance ,plain stupidity or just insane. I suggest you take your time, read and listen to the news.If you can comprehend a six grade reading level you will see how far off the mark you are.If you are not a felon register to VOTE other wise you people need to stop embarrassing yourselves by trying to pretend you have a clue about whats being discussed on this subject. I could go on,but it's your responsibility to understand current events.
WOW, guess you are a democrat huh! Maybe you should take your own advice and wake up and see what is going on! Really their intent is to not take them from us right now but make the transfer of ownership when we pass on impossible for our children to assume ownership of them if they are one of the 150 or so on the list or semi automatic with a detachable magazine! You wake the hell up and figure it out pretty sure the ones posting on here are on the mark! You must be a "educated" person with a college degree right? That means you are educated, doesn't mean you are smart in no way! You get your "Obama" money yet? How do like your new tax rate?
anonymous

Oakdale, TN

#29 Jan 25, 2013
From somewhere wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW, guess you are a democrat huh! Maybe you should take your own advice and wake up and see what is going on! Really their intent is to not take them from us right now but make the transfer of ownership when we pass on impossible for our children to assume ownership of them if they are one of the 150 or so on the list or semi automatic with a detachable magazine! You wake the hell up and figure it out pretty sure the ones posting on here are on the mark! You must be a "educated" person with a college degree right? That means you are educated, doesn't mean you are smart in no way! You get your "Obama" money yet? How do like your new tax rate?
Are you crazy?
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#30 Jan 26, 2013
hmmmm wrote:
raise taxes then take our guns. Make sure he gets lifetime bodyguards by passing a bill. His terrorist mission is just beginning.
Tell you one thing. I'm loving all these people on forums saying, "What was I thinking when I voted for him."
Be nice. Everyone makes a mistake every now and then. Be thankful that some are beginning to realize that they made one. The ones that frighten are those who still think they were right to vote for "him".
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#31 Jan 26, 2013
Patsy wrote:
<quoted text>
You are absolutely right...most everyone who wrote a comment is so stupid they should keep their mouth shut. And besides that they are closed minded and they don't listen. Their biggest problem is not thinking for themselves and being logical with common sense.
Patsy, how are you with history? Republics tend to last about 200 years or so, and ours is how old? Despots and tyrants tend to disarm their populations; why? Those who serve/defend the US take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, but didn't Bush refer to it as "that g0d-damned piece of paper"? If the "supreme law of the land" is the Constitution, what part of "shall not be infringed" allows for any form of "gun control"? Further on with that one, what gives any President the right to establish "Free Speech Zones", or more recently "No Free Speech Zones"?
Patsy wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is taking away your shotgun or your hunting rifle. We will simply limit the magnitude of killing that you are allowed to do.
You will still have your gun for protection and hunting. What reason would anyone need an assult rifle with all those bullets. If just one of those massive shootings could be prevented, wouldn't you want that? We can't stop these crazies, but we can try to save lives by limiting the number of shots they have. I haave a gun with 6 bullets. That's all I need to protect myself.
Are you familiar with Posse Comitatus? It prevented {yes, past tense} the military from being used against US civilians. Now that we're not protected by it anymore {US PATRIOT ACT, and other responses to 9/11} what stands between us and tyranny enforced by the military? Are you really willing to bet that you will never wake to the sound of tanks, APC's, and soldiers rolling down main street?

If such a thing were to happen, what would a .22 or a 12 guage do against an RPG or .50 cal? Your 6 bullets looking like an adequate arsenal now? I'm guessing you're one of those who would rather comply than resist, or are you one of those who would be working FOR those that want to disarm us. Let me quote again from your post, "We will simply limit the magnitude of killing that you are allowed to do." We? Who "We"? I've mentioned government trolls a couple of times, but didn't make a big issue of it. I think maybe you just did. Thanks.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#32 Jan 26, 2013
be real wrote:
he already passed a law giving both him and former president bush lifetime secret service protection.
That law has been in place for decades. It is part of the retirement benefits package.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#33 Jan 26, 2013
Well well wrote:
<quoted text>
"Ralph" and "Patsy," people can see that you're the same person.
Your grammar is equivalent to an English student in the 5th grade.
Perhaps you should focus on your own educational attributes prior to criticizing others for the lack of it.
It really is all he can do. It stands out like a sore thumb in every post.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#34 Jan 26, 2013
Imagine That wrote:
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The problem is with the people behind the gun; not the gun itself.
A person can easily get a revolver with speed loaders and quickly reload ammo once it has been fired.
Are you suggesting that people shouldn't have semi-automatic handguns that hold 10 rounds, even?
How is limiting the number of shots going to solve anything?
By the way, you misspelled 'have' and 'assault,' genius.
There is another problem. That is allowing the pro-control folks to put us on the defensive. If they win this, and there's a good chance they just might, we will be completely defensive against our own troops marching alongside UN blue hats.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#35 Jan 26, 2013
solution wrote:
Every single comment on this topic is either ignorance ,plain stupidity or just insane. I suggest you take your time, read and listen to the news.If you can comprehend a six grade reading level you will see how far off the mark you are.If you are not a felon register to VOTE other wise you people need to stop embarrassing yourselves by trying to pretend you have a clue about whats being discussed on this subject. I could go on,but it's your responsibility to understand current events.
Odd, I don't watch Fox News, nor do I belong to the NRA, and I believe my comprehension level exceeds that of the common 12th grader, maybe even the exceptional one.
Bull-s wrote:
I've not heard anyone except, the N R A and Gun addicts, say their guns were going to be taken away, I have heard that assult weapons, were going to be illegal, and anyone buying a gun would be required to reg and a back ground check, No one is saying your guns will be taken again except the nra, who have for years used this to raise money, People are just plain stupid to believe this BS.
We can keep our guns and money and be happy ever more, or listen to this BS and go spend the kids money to buy more guns, and let them do without to send the NRA whats left. Wakeup and smell the money.
In the 60's and 70's it wasn't uncommon to find trucks with gun racks holding rifles in High School parking lots. In the late 70's gun control laws began and our right to keep and bare arms has been progressively infringed since. It is also worth noting that that is when the term "going postal" came into popular usage {Democrat Jimmy Carter's gun control program}. Do a little history check and tell me when these mass murder episodes happen; Democrat or Republican administration? As I am neither, it would serve my purposes if both could be equally implicated, but they can't.

Each "mass murder" event has been in a location where gun control is strongest; is this coincidence, or planning? I agree that people need to wake up and smell the money, but at the end of that money is gun control/people control and globalists trying to point the gullible in the wrong direction. You might say demonizing those who work for the protection of the people, leaving the tyrants free of scrutiny. There is a smell about, but the odor that is wafting through is the scent of deceit and treachery.
justice wrote:
<quoted text>cann't believe everything u read on here. i for 1 agree this thread is misinformed people need to listen to something other than fox news.which for the past week has been a commercial for the nra really makes you sick.
Though I've already covered this, and shan't again, it does illustrate my points made in other threads about propaganda and propagandizing. I think it was Goebbels that said that if you tell a big enough lie often enough people will believe it. It is called the "Big Lie" and it is named appropriately because it works so well on so many people. The bigger and the more authoritarian the people are telling the lie, the more "believable" it is. Hence the art of propaganda. If you truly think Fox is guilty, you should include MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, HLN, and just about all the rest of the alphabet soup propaganda companies. You wouldn't want to be seen as biased, or bigoted, would you?
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#36 Jan 26, 2013
anonymous wrote:
I'm up in the air on the whole gun control thing. I've not really made up my mind but reading the pro-gun peoples comments really makes me think they at least, do not have the mental maturity to own weapons.
I mean look at this... "oboma" and "bloboma" what? Are you making fun of his name (which is second grade stuff mind you.) or do you really not know how to spell it?
Also no one can seam to string together a proper sentence. I mean my grammar and spelling isn't the best in the world but at least take the time to run my posts through spell check.
If you can't write it makes me think you can't really read your gun safety manuals well enough to understand what they say.
Not "seam", but seem, and where you say, "grammar and spelling isn't" it should be aren't as the verb is plural, not singular.

Oops. Sorry. I normally let crap like that go as I prefer not to get bogged down in the mundane activity of spelling and grammar corrections.

Well, I am actually making a point. Spelling and Grammar are indicators of education, but shouldn't it be the thoughts and concepts behind the words that we deal with? I agree that showing disrespect for a name is childish, and there is a lot of that on Topix {if only the childishness stopped there, but it doesn't}. The larger issue is what is important, not giving the children the attention they desperately crave. There will always be those that snip and bite at ankles for whoever they can bring down, and those can, and should, be properly used to bring up issues such as this and show them the denigration they properly deserve. They, like the cowards that "judge" these posts from hiding, and never show their faces, despise exposure and detest being called out. That is what makes it so fun.
anonymous

Oakdale, TN

#37 Jan 26, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
<quoted text>
Not "seam", but seem, and where you say, "grammar and spelling isn't" it should be aren't as the verb is plural, not singular.
Oops. Sorry. I normally let crap like that go as I prefer not to get bogged down in the mundane activity of spelling and grammar corrections.
Well, I am actually making a point. Spelling and Grammar are indicators of education, but shouldn't it be the thoughts and concepts behind the words that we deal with? I agree that showing disrespect for a name is childish, and there is a lot of that on Topix {if only the childishness stopped there, but it doesn't}. The larger issue is what is important, not giving the children the attention they desperately crave. There will always be those that snip and bite at ankles for whoever they can bring down, and those can, and should, be properly used to bring up issues such as this and show them the denigration they properly deserve. They, like the cowards that "judge" these posts from hiding, and never show their faces, despise exposure and detest being called out. That is what makes it so fun.
Like I said I my grammar and what not isn't the best and I did probably come off like more of a bitch then I meant to. I do agree with you the actual content should be dealt with. Like for example this guy...

Ralph
[Quote]These people that voted for bloboma either work for the government, live off the government , or are retired. Nobody in there rite mind could of voted for him and be happy with what he has done or what he is doing...All the armed forces that have gave there lives for these freedoms we have and then people vote for somone wanting to take them away, It discusses me.[/quote]

Obviously Ralph here doesn't seam like the brightest bulb. Name calling the president (I didn't really like Bush for example but I still called the man president Bush). The comments about people who voted Obama are obviously way out of line. The general attitude of the post when combined with the not just grammatical mistakes but a serious difficulty in actually communicating what he means seriously makes me wonder if he should be allowed to have weapons. Like, he didn't spell check his post. It's a common oversight but a common oversight with a gun, like forgetting to put it on safety or remove the round from the chamber can end in death.

I feel like there should be a paper test of safety procedures and gun laws to own a gun.
Done my homework

Oak Ridge, TN

#38 Jan 27, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Ralph
[Quote]These people that voted for bloboma either work for the government, live off the government , or are retired. Nobody in there rite mind could of voted for him and be happy with what he has done or what he is doing...All the armed forces that have gave there lives for these freedoms we have and then people vote for somone wanting to take them away, It discusses me.[/quote]
Ralphy has MPD. Dayton, Tennessee doesn't have as many people in it as he/she has on Topix. His/Her intent is to confuse and obfuscate. Pay no attention and he/she will go where the attention is.
anonymous wrote:
I feel like there should be a paper test of safety procedures and gun laws to own a gun.
I've thought that way too, but I don't anymore. In general, people are pretty good at self-regulation as far as owning and using weapons goes. Outside regulation is restriction which historically and logically favors the criminal. Remove the restrictions and even if gun ownership doesn't go up, criminals will have to assume that more people are armed than before {deterrent}.

Under Bush, the cowboy president, the perception was that the US had returned to the days of the wild west. This wasn't actually true, but the perception was there and the crime rate went down. Clinton increased funding for local law enforcement and crime rates went down. Did police get better at their job? No, it was the perception that police were better funded and more able to catch criminals that caused the rate drop. Now under Obama we're back to the "Postal" days of the Carter administration. Don't it make you wonder why?

A very wise friend of mine once told me, "Perception is 90% of anything." I hate to have to admit it, but he was right. Most people operate more on perception than logic and thinking. In fact, most people fear thinking for themselves and follow the crowd they perceive as being the strongest {safety in the biggest group}. It isn't because they can't make good decisions, but it is because they've accepted that they can't and that is what government does for them.

I believe that when people start seeing what they're looking at, and listen to what they've been hearing, they come around to a condition I like to call autonomy. It is a good place to be, but right now it is somewhat lonely.
liberal hater

Hamer, SC

#39 Jan 29, 2013
Done my homework wrote:
<quoted text>
Odd, I don't watch Fox News, nor do I belong to the NRA, and I believe my comprehension level exceeds that of the common 12th grader, maybe even the exceptional one.
<quoted text>
In the 60's and 70's it wasn't uncommon to find trucks with gun racks holding rifles in High School parking lots. In the late 70's gun control laws began and our right to keep and bare arms has been progressively infringed since. It is also worth noting that that is when the term "going postal" came into popular usage {Democrat Jimmy Carter's gun control program}. Do a little history check and tell me when these mass murder episodes happen; Democrat or Republican administration? As I am neither, it would serve my purposes if both could be equally implicated, but they can't.
Each "mass murder" event has been in a location where gun control is strongest; is this coincidence, or planning? I agree that people need to wake up and smell the money, but at the end of that money is gun control/people control and globalists trying to point the gullible in the wrong direction. You might say demonizing those who work for the protection of the people, leaving the tyrants free of scrutiny. There is a smell about, but the odor that is wafting through is the scent of deceit and treachery.
<quoted text>
Though I've already covered this, and shan't again, it does illustrate my points made in other threads about propaganda and propagandizing. I think it was Goebbels that said that if you tell a big enough lie often enough people will believe it. It is called the "Big Lie" and it is named appropriately because it works so well on so many people. The bigger and the more authoritarian the people are telling the lie, the more "believable" it is. Hence the art of propaganda. If you truly think Fox is guilty, you should include MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, HLN, and just about all the rest of the alphabet soup propaganda companies. You wouldn't want to be seen as biased, or bigoted, would you?
of coarse libs dont belong to the n.r.a.
justice

Oliver Springs, TN

#40 Jan 29, 2013
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Done my homework wrote:
<quoted text>
Patsy, how are you with history? Republics tend to last about 200 years or so, and ours is how old? Despots and tyrants tend to disarm their populations; why? Those who serve/defend the US take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, but didn't Bush refer to it as "that g0d-damned piece of paper"? If the "supreme law of the land" is the Constitution, what part of "shall not be infringed" allows for any form of "gun control"? Further on with that one, what gives any President the right to establish "Free Speech Zones", or more recently "No Free Speech Zones"?
<quoted text>
Are you familiar with Posse Comitatus? It prevented {yes, past tense} the military from being used against US civilians. Now that we're not protected by it anymore {US PATRIOT ACT, and other responses to 9/11} what stands between us and tyranny enforced by the military? Are you really willing to bet that you will never wake to the sound of tanks, APC's, and soldiers rolling down main street?
If such a thing were to happen, what would a .22 or a 12 guage do against an RPG or .50 cal? Your 6 bullets looking like an adequate arsenal now? I'm guessing you're one of those who would rather comply than resist, or are you one of those who would be working FOR those that want to disarm us. Let me quote again from your post, "We will simply limit the magnitude of killing that you are allowed to do." We? Who "We"? I've mentioned government trolls a couple of times, but didn't make a big issue of it. I think maybe you just did. Thanks.
justice

Oliver Springs, TN

#41 Jan 29, 2013
i think it it does give government the right to regulate.
unknown

United States

#42 Jan 29, 2013
Why don't people understand that regulating the amount of ammo a gun magazine can hold will not stop the people who illegally obtain guns from using illegal magazines to go on their shooting spree's with ? If the laws that are in place now were followed and carried out by our law enforcement and everyone didn't want to create a new law every time something happened maybe there wouldn't be as many shootings . The people who committed these crimes need to stand trial and be put to death instead of just sending them to some institution because their life wasn't perfect when they were raised ! Quit blaming everyone else for the actions of one person !!!! Most people have the its someone else's fault for what I done !!!

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