Fire company accepting bids for demol...

Fire company accepting bids for demolition of Mercersburg's Smith H...

There are 47 comments on the Public Opinion story from Oct 6, 2010, titled Fire company accepting bids for demolition of Mercersburg's Smith H.... In it, Public Opinion reports that:

After serving as a subject for debate throughout the year, the fate of the Justice William Smith House seems certain now that a local fire department is seeking bids for the house's demolition.

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lets make it a win win

Mercersburg, PA

#1 Oct 6, 2010
there are local groups that will purchase the historic house if the MMPW powers that be would set a price. The board of directors have been asked numerous times for a selling price with the land so the house can remain in its original location. None has ever been given. Justice Smith is becoming a signifcant figure in the lead-up to the rebellion against the British according to recent and ongoing research. It is highly important to keep this historical (yet altered) building in Mercersburg at its 260 year old site. The fire department needs a bigger space but according to its' charter it has to be in the Mercersburg area. Lets find a larger space for them that is accessible to major roads and infrastructure.
Joe from Mercersburg

Waynesboro, PA

#2 Oct 7, 2010
lets make it a win win wrote:
there are local groups that will purchase the historic house if the MMPW powers that be would set a price. The board of directors have been asked numerous times for a selling price with the land so the house can remain in its original location. None has ever been given. Justice Smith is becoming a signifcant figure in the lead-up to the rebellion against the British according to recent and ongoing research. It is highly important to keep this historical (yet altered) building in Mercersburg at its 260 year old site. The fire department needs a bigger space but according to its' charter it has to be in the Mercersburg area. Lets find a larger space for them that is accessible to major roads and infrastructure.
They the fire co. purchase the old Golf Station to have a bunk house for it's members but never went throu with it that's what will happen here they will tear the house down and have just one more vacant lot just the way the town of Mercersburg did with the tannery property
R u kidding me

Chambersburg, PA

#3 Oct 7, 2010
The "officials" of the fire department HAVE set a selling price. 1/2 million dollars. Pay it and do what you want with your property, or don't pay it and let the fire department do with the property what THEY want to do. Very simple. This should have been done a year or more ago. Too many wishy-washy "officials" and not enough guts for anyone to tell the real truth.
yeah right

Nutley, NJ

#5 Oct 7, 2010
Actually I thought the price was one million dollars--firm.

Too bad to lose a historic building, but very obviously neither of the two parties (historic group, fire company) has the cash to pour into restoring it or moving it. And in this economy there really is no grant money for that kind of project. The charter does place restrictions on where the fire company can be located. The choice of a new location for the fire company must also take into account zoning, space requirements, maneuvering space and accessibility for the apparatus, adequate safe access by the apparatus to the main roads in all directions and the safety of the public in when the fire company responds to incidents from that location. Not so easy to find a location as some seem to think.
buh bye

Cascade, MD

#6 Oct 7, 2010
the building goes a year after it should have..
Finally

Middlefield, OH

#7 Oct 7, 2010
Finally, a decision. Now, if the house is as important as people think it is, the museum will put their money where their mouth was and move it. Either way, that lot is going to be cleared.
LWG

Carlisle, PA

#8 Oct 7, 2010
The question still remains why did those who feel so strongly that the Smith house should be saved wait until the fire company bought it?
wasted rock ranger

Chambersburg, PA

#11 Oct 7, 2010
yeah right wrote:
Actually I thought the price was one million dollars--firm.
Too bad to lose a historic building, but very obviously neither of the two parties (historic group, fire company) has the cash to pour into restoring it or moving it. And in this economy there really is no grant money for that kind of project. The charter does place restrictions on where the fire company can be located. The choice of a new location for the fire company must also take into account zoning, space requirements, maneuvering space and accessibility for the apparatus, adequate safe access by the apparatus to the main roads in all directions and the safety of the public in when the fire company responds to incidents from that location. Not so easy to find a location as some seem to think.
how bout the old McCoy's building. its out of the way enough that when a call goes through nobody will get hurt when they respond. plus people in town will be able to sleep better. plenty of parking. not to far out of town.
cam72

United States

#12 Oct 7, 2010
That's a shame, once this house is gone it will be gone for good. A little comforting that at least Ireland sees the value in this property are willing to save this piece of American history.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

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#13 Oct 7, 2010
LWG wrote:
The question still remains why did those who feel so strongly that the Smith house should be saved wait until the fire company bought it?
If you recall, the Smith House was on the market during the real estate boom - probably listed for double what it eventually sold for. Everyone knew that bubble was about to burst - a bad time to buy anything...and once the bust hit - cash was tight...so the answer is "bad timing."

Also - mr nelling knew of the history and held on to the house as long as he could...even putting stipulations on its use if sold. It was only at the last minute that the fire co got involved, just as Mr nelling dropped the stipulations (on his deathbed i've heard)

Also the past 10 years have brought the widespread adoption of the internet as a research tool for historians...and the addition of volumes of letters and correspondence that contained much of the story.

Those resources simply weren't available until very recently. Some of the history was loosely known. But now thanks to the efforts of John Thompson, Calvin Bricker and even Karen Ramsburg - the history has been brought a much higher degree of resolution. Its importance to the history of the United States is undeniable. Regardless if the house stands or falls - the history and importance of the actions that happened here - will live on...and benefit Mercersburg.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#14 Oct 7, 2010
buh bye wrote:
the building goes a year after it should have..
SaveSmithHouse has taken no action preventing the fire co from acting. None.
Move Along

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Oct 7, 2010
It is always ashame to lose important historical features in our communities. However, these historical buildings that are saved/ preserved need someone to care for them forever. Who has the money to do that? And the comments from someone with the group attempting to save the building about our politicians not caring enough to save it... maybe just this once our politicians are looking at the building and realizing that it would be nice to preserve, however, we are looking at only spending money on the important things right now. Move on, tear the building down and support the Fire Company in their decision to expand. After all, they are a group of people dedicated to the preservation of the community by suppressing fire, providing medical services and responding to other types of needs by the community.

“ONE LOVE...ONE HORSE”

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#17 Oct 7, 2010
Move Along wrote:
It is always ashame to lose important historical features in our communities. However, these historical buildings that are saved/ preserved need someone to care for them forever. Who has the money to do that? And the comments from someone with the group attempting to save the building about our politicians not caring enough to save it... maybe just this once our politicians are looking at the building and realizing that it would be nice to preserve, however, we are looking at only spending money on the important things right now.
I've said it from the start...

The politicians would never support the glorification of historical figures - that in the eyes of a standing government - are seditionists.

Do you really think the US government wants its citizens to understand the politics of rebellion and revolution?

Any sitting government would think this is history that is best forgotten.
are you kidding me msbg

Chambersburg, PA

#18 Oct 7, 2010
A Talking Horse wrote:
<quoted text>
If you recall, the Smith House was on the market during the real estate boom - probably listed for double what it eventually sold for. Everyone knew that bubble was about to burst - a bad time to buy anything...and once the bust hit - cash was tight...so the answer is "bad timing."
Also - mr nelling knew of the history and held on to the house as long as he could...even putting stipulations on its use if sold. It was only at the last minute that the fire co got involved, just as Mr nelling dropped the stipulations (on his deathbed i've heard)
Also the past 10 years have brought the widespread adoption of the internet as a research tool for historians...and the addition of volumes of letters and correspondence that contained much of the story.
Those resources simply weren't available until very recently. Some of the history was loosely known. But now thanks to the efforts of John Thompson, Calvin Bricker and even Karen Ramsburg - the history has been brought a much higher degree of resolution. Its importance to the history of the United States is undeniable. Regardless if the house stands or falls - the history and importance of the actions that happened here - will live on...and benefit Mercersburg.
Put up a sign! It's time to move on. The dead horse keeps getting beaten...
what

Mercersburg, PA

#19 Oct 7, 2010
if it's worth so much money (asking price), why is it going to be torn down?
WheresDaBacon

Chambersburg, PA

#20 Oct 7, 2010
Cant they Donate The house to Norlo park are Somethin close????
I would volunteer to help.

Do they have stink bugs in Ireland yet????
Common Folk

York, PA

#21 Oct 7, 2010
I'm sick of hearing about this. Everybody had a fair shake to buy it and nobody did-but the fire department. No money has been placed on the table to buy it. They have the right to do what they want with it. Frankly, if people have the money to buy and restore it who is going to pay to maintain it? It's just like everything else in this town-DRAMA. Put your money on the table or leave it alone.
Old Alumnus

Conshohocken, PA

#22 Oct 7, 2010
It's ironic that the institution tasked with SAVING houses, wants to destroy this one. Maybe the community will remember them when they come begging for donations.
J Mitchell

Mercersburg, PA

#23 Oct 7, 2010
paved paradise and put in a parking lot
hitlers son

Darby, PA

#24 Oct 7, 2010
if the house would go up in flames then what.i guess the fire dept is responsible for saving it.that would be best thing that could happen to it.shut both sides up and betty stenger could take the ashes up to the burnt out shack on the square and have a proper burial for both places.history or not just burn them the town does need more parking space for all there major so called events.

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