Confess? Armstrong may not have much to gain

Jan 6, 2013 Full story: Times Observer 43

Lance Armstrong may be considering a change in course, dropping his years of denials and admitting that he used performance-enhancing drugs - though whether such a move would help him is uncertain.

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Do-It

Hortense, GA

#1 Jan 6, 2013
Honesty is always the best policy. Will help his public image as well as his own inner stress. Always feels better to come clean.
Cyclingfan

San Francisco, CA

#2 Jan 8, 2013
As much as it may hurt, confess is the best. A man should have a good conscience.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#3 Jan 8, 2013
There certainly has been a following of cyclists coming out and admitting to their doping, which is a positive in comparison to the a while back where everyone was staying quiet.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#4 Jan 9, 2013
Kind of interesting in seeing and noting that Gus isn't out here now in talking about Lance Armstrong's stepping up to the plate and possably telling all about his role in the doping scheme of cycling.

Oh well, moving forward is always better then staying stuck in the past. And that is just what many of the cyclists and teams are currently doing, while trying to force the UCI to clean itself up as well.
Cyclingfan

San Francisco, CA

#5 Jan 11, 2013
Gus has been in denial for a long time, it shows what an evil person he is, sticking to lies.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#6 Jan 12, 2013
Cyclingfan wrote:
Gus has been in denial for a long time, it shows what an evil person he is, sticking to lies.
...sounds like you and MO are a couple of ..fuKKups!
Athos

UK

#7 Jan 12, 2013
Well I for one will not think him a BETTER man. Just another cheat
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#8 Jan 13, 2013
Athos wrote:
Well I for one will not think him a BETTER man. Just another cheat
Better man? Interesting concept, Lance Armstrong was involved in the most corrupt sport in the world. The fact is that cycling has turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the massive (read that sport wide) use of drugs. For all reasons the sport should lift the ban and be honest about the big mussle, small prick men who ride the major races of the world.
Athos

Bath, UK

#9 Jan 14, 2013
Voice of Reality wrote:
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Better man? Interesting concept, Lance Armstrong was involved in the most corrupt sport in the world. The fact is that cycling has turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the massive (read that sport wide) use of drugs. For all reasons the sport should lift the ban and be honest about the big mussle, small prick men who ride the major races of the world.
Lift the BAN? Are you for real? The ban should be kept, all of the money he has received from his cheating returned and a BIG apology to all of those people who believed and supported the cheat
Are you saying that Wiggins is one of the cheats? He certainly ain't no BIG MUSCLE!
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#10 Jan 14, 2013
Gus wrote:
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...sounds like you and MO are a couple of ..fuKKups!
Life has shown most of us that it's usually the currupt ones who normally point the first finger at others in order to try and rid any guilt off of themselves.

I do see that you are quite content in hiding up there in good ole Canada Gus.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#11 Jan 14, 2013
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>Lift the BAN? Are you for real? The ban should be kept, all of the money he has received from his cheating returned and a BIG apology to all of those people who believed and supported the cheat
Are you saying that Wiggins is one of the cheats? He certainly ain't no BIG MUSCLE!
Ban against any type of doping in sports needs to changed to a LIFE TIME ban from any sport(s).

It'll take a court process in trying to redeem the money, but I agree that it should be returned just the same with any bank robbery.

Definitely believe that LA needs to be manadated to publically apologize to all the people who LA had bullied and ran over, starting with Betsy Andreau. Yes, he also owes the public and fans an apoligy.

But, the main and real question will always be on just how real and honest is LA with his apology.

Yes, many cyclists and fans have already been focusing their sights on both Team GB from the London Olympic games along with that of Team Sky. And they have already provided some very good points that had aroused questionable concerns from the cycling community.

James B who is in charge of the British cycling program has already shown that he really does have the so called muscle here.

Only time will really tell us if that is correct or partially correct or incorrect.
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#12 Jan 14, 2013
Athos wrote:
<quoted text>Lift the BAN? Are you for real? The ban should be kept, all of the money he has received from his cheating returned and a BIG apology to all of those people who believed and supported the cheat
Are you saying that Wiggins is one of the cheats? He certainly ain't no BIG MUSCLE!
You have got to be the most stupid Limey on the board. Do you think that taking PEDs automatically gives you big muscles? What I am saying is that your little sport of riding a bike is known as the most drug infested sport in the world. Either the chumps that run it can not or will not come up with the proper test to clean it up. The culture of cycling is drugs and cheating, Lance just did it best for seven years. Either lift the drug band and allow people to do what they will to win OR get some way to control it. This reminds me of Olympic long distance running in the late 70s and early 80s when the runner would train like hell in high altitude and have blood drawn from his body and enriched and before the olympics they would place this enriched blood back into the runner before the games.
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#13 Jan 15, 2013
Voice of Reality wrote:
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You have got to be the most stupid Limey on the board. Do you think that taking PEDs automatically gives you big muscles?
1. What I am saying is that your little sport of riding a bike is known as the most drug infested sport in the world.
2. Either the chumps that run it can not or will not come up with the proper test to clean it up. The culture of cycling is drugs and cheating, Lance just did it best for seven years.
3. Either lift the drug band and allow people to do what they will to win OR get some way to control it.
4. This reminds me of Olympic long distance running in the late 70s and early 80s when the runner would train like hell in high altitude and have blood drawn from his body and enriched and before the olympics they would place this enriched blood back into the runner before the games.
1. The reason why "Cycling" may seem the most doped sport is basicaly due to the fact that it is the ONLY SPORT who is trying to clean itself up.

The sports of baseball, football (Armerican) and Basketball are filled with dopers. Only baseball has come under focus only because the US Congress had gotten involved.

2. We can definitely see that you don't have a clue about drug testing and you proably don't have much knowledge about the sport of cycling as well with your statement above.

The drug testing agencies do a pretty good job in developing accurate doping tests, yet one must also realize that the crimminal side of doping also do a pretty good job in delevloping new doping methods as well and that they usually have a lot more money in their budgets then that of the drug testing agencies.

3. Yup! You definitely do not know what you're talking about here as most of the cyclists and cycling fans throughout all of the cycling forums already know that many of those illegal drugs have seriously affected athelet's health along with causing many deaths as well.

4. Blood doping is still taking place today, so most of us don't have to remember back to the 1970's or 1980's.

Cheers
Cyclingfan

San Francisco, CA

#14 Jan 15, 2013
Gus is no longer credible, he is just a liar and a cheat like Lance but I do admired Lance for his charity work. Gus is no longer worth listening to, the man still does not think that Lance cheated and lied.
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#15 Jan 16, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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1. The reason why "Cycling" may seem the most doped sport is basicaly due to the fact that it is the ONLY SPORT who is trying to clean itself up.
The sports of baseball, football (Armerican) and Basketball are filled with dopers. Only baseball has come under focus only because the US Congress had gotten involved.
2. We can definitely see that you don't have a clue about drug testing and you proably don't have much knowledge about the sport of cycling as well with your statement above.
The drug testing agencies do a pretty good job in developing accurate doping tests, yet one must also realize that the crimminal side of doping also do a pretty good job in delevloping new doping methods as well and that they usually have a lot more money in their budgets then that of the drug testing agencies.
3. Yup! You definitely do not know what you're talking about here as most of the cyclists and cycling fans throughout all of the cycling forums already know that many of those illegal drugs have seriously affected athelet's health along with causing many deaths as well.
4. Blood doping is still taking place today, so most of us don't have to remember back to the 1970's or 1980's.
Cheers
All of your above statements might be true, however, now the guilt has more or less shifted from Lance to people in the Governing body of international Cycling. I, again, say that cycling is the most corrupt sport in the world. The American stick and ball sports have done much more to clean up their act than cycling has. Mark Meguire, Sammy Sosa and others will be a living reminder to others currently in sports as to how the stick and ballers are treated if they are found to be using drugs.

I have one question for you, IF cycling wanted to clean up their sport and was interested in the health of their athletes, how the hell did a seven time consecutive winner of the most important race in your little sport get away with using these drugs?

Can everybody say blind eye and deaf ear?
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#17 Jan 16, 2013
Cyclingfan wrote:
Gus is no longer credible, he is just a liar and a cheat like Lance but I do admired Lance for his charity work. Gus is no longer worth listening to, the man still does not think that Lance cheated and lied.
As much as Gus has been many things in this forum since he began here back in 2006, Gus isn't a liar in relation to cycling and he has never been a liar.

At least he's been able to talk real cycling coming from his background on the bicycle. Where as you aren't even able to produce any serious sources for your opinions.

Cheers
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas

El Paso, TX

#18 Jan 16, 2013
Voice of Reality wrote:
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1. All of your above statements might be true, however, now the guilt has more or less shifted from Lance to people in the Governing body of international Cycling. I, again, say that cycling is the most corrupt sport in the world.
2. The American stick and ball sports have done much more to clean up their act than cycling has. Mark Meguire, Sammy Sosa and others will be a living reminder to others currently in sports as to how the stick and ballers are treated if they are found to be using drugs.
I have one question for you, IF cycling wanted to clean up their sport and was interested in the health of their athletes, how the hell did a seven time consecutive winner of the most important race in your little sport get away with using these drugs?
Can everybody say blind eye and deaf ear?
1. If you ever followed cycling and doping in cycling, then you would have immediately known that what I wrote here is real and factual as most cyclists and cycling fans have known that for the past several years.

Guilt doesn't shift from one person to another in the sense that you're stating here. Guilt is shared as this case has been spider webing all around us and you would have known that if you had followed anything that's been going on within the sport of cycling throughout it's history.

2. You really are quite delusional if you really believe that baseball has been cleaning itself up. Stop and ask youself just why the US Congress felt the need to step in and investigate baseball and steroid use in the first place when it has never been their job. One serious hint: Because no one else was doing anything about it.

And if you seriously want me or anyone else take you seriously here on the topic of illegal doping in cycling, why don't you tell us just what has been taken place there in London, England and actually who in involved there in trying to clean cycling up?

You have already proven by your lack of providing any valid sources for supporting your views and opinions. By being over dramtic in your attacking cycling isn't really going to help validate your aruments here.

Cheers
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#19 Jan 16, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
As much as Gus has been many things in this forum since he began here back in 2006, Gus isn't a liar in relation to cycling and he has never been a liar.
At least he's been able to talk real cycling coming from his background on the bicycle. Where as you aren't even able to produce any serious sources for your opinions.
Cheers
...thanx Mo.,I never condemn any one until there is proof absolute,I am always of the opinion that one is innocent until proven otherwise,now that Lance has fessed up on Oprah's show I now readily accept that he used P.E.Ds,as I also did with Floyd.cheers...and Happy New Year!
turtle

Huddersfield, UK

#20 Jan 16, 2013
all i can say is wow !!!! a acceptance from gus that la cheated and lied and bullied and used ped's Again WOW, Thanks Gus and a Happy New Year to you.
And wow on the rest of this thread !! the bickering always makes me smile, keep it up guys it is pure comedy !!
The muttering and sniping at team sky and uk cycling will hopefully be just that. There is no evidence or even grounds of suspicion to accuse them of anything other than hard work and attention to detail. I truly believe that they are clean and ride fair, it would be terrible if they were not though. hope i am right on this, anyway happy new year to all and hope your year is going to be great .
Voice of Reality

Petersburg, VA

#21 Jan 16, 2013
My Opinion_El Paso_Texas wrote:
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1. If you ever followed cycling and doping in cycling, then you would have immediately known that what I wrote here is real and factual as most cyclists and cycling fans have known that for the past several years.
Guilt doesn't shift from one person to another in the sense that you're stating here. Guilt is shared as this case has been spider webing all around us and you would have known that if you had followed anything that's been going on within the sport of cycling throughout it's history.
2. You really are quite delusional if you really believe that baseball has been cleaning itself up. Stop and ask youself just why the US Congress felt the need to step in and investigate baseball and steroid use in the first place when it has never been their job. One serious hint: Because no one else was doing anything about it.
And if you seriously want me or anyone else take you seriously here on the topic of illegal doping in cycling, why don't you tell us just what has been taken place there in London, England and actually who in involved there in trying to clean cycling up?
You have already proven by your lack of providing any valid sources for supporting your views and opinions. By being over dramtic in your attacking cycling isn't really going to help validate your aruments here.
Cheers
You are right, I do not follow cycling, however, I am a student of human nature. For the biggest portion of people in the world cycling is nothing unless they have a taciturn interest in the Tour D France. Now, please explain to me how Lance Armstrong (A cancer survivor) could win that biggest of all cycling races seven times and the governing body could not find anything wrong with his test for PEDs for seven years? The fact is that they needed the press coverage that Armstrong brought to the event and only got serious after his 11th place finish in 2010. I still say that if Armstrong was still the consistant winner and publicity maker he once was there would be no investigation into his drug use. The Cycling community is eat up with illegal drugs, they know it, you know it and I know it. In Richmond Va. we had a portion of the Tour D Dupont which lasted a good farting spell.

Now, please will you still, after this seven year period of see no evil and say no evil during the Armstrong run, say that cycling really wants to clean itself up?

Oh, by the way, your taking me seriously does not my day make!

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