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Letter to the editor: Count him in for Barack Obama

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Trevor Brown

Houston, TX

#203 Apr 14, 2008
How shamefull does it get to crucify Barack Obama about his coment on small town America when all he is offering is a helping hand from the abiss where most previous presidents have allowed small town America to become complacent in and think it is normal to settle in second class schools, or second class Medical services or coping with more cigerate or liquor adds and listen to people who has pulled in one hundred million plus over 8 years coming around at election time trying to relate to their circumstance when there is no correlation whatever.
Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#204 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to wonder about Lil John here. Post after post after post full of erroneous information, half truths, & gross innuedo.
Lil John is one of these frustrated right wingers. Has no candidate. So, as he clings to this comment section, he finds a release for his bitterness.
Barack Obama could have worked in any law firm after he graduated Law School. He could have taken a path to instant wealth. He had fantastic offers.
He ignored them to take a job in a law firm helping non profit organizations on South Side Chicago. Not talking about it like Clinton, doing it. Accually put his life where his mouth was, on the streets, helping a comminity recover from economic disaster.
This speaks to his character.
So Lil John, I know you have read the plans on his website, you have scoured the internet for the negative, you have tried your best to find fault.
Be careful, you might just start to believe in Barack Obanma & his message of change. You might look back & realize that the major issues before us, regardless of which side you are on, have had nothing done in the 15 Clinton Bush years.
The time for change is now. Join us.
You know in your heart , even if you can't speak it, what Obama was saying in San Francisco behind closed doors when he got caught..

Use all you mystical profiler powers to put the truth down but it speaks for itself.

Your 'Phony' got caught telling people what he really thinks , when he thought he was behind closed doors. Obama is a socialist, a phony and a hypocrite.

His veneer is being breeched and you don't like that. Stand by -- more to come.

BTW -------- His 'so called' plans, that you acknowledge I read, are not plans but promises/dreams that even any self-respecting 'snake oil' salesman wouldn't make.

If we are clinging to religion , what's his excuse for belonging to a church for 20 yrs? That was so phony!
Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#205 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to wonder about Lil John here. Post after post after post full of erroneous information, half truths, & gross innuedo.
Lil John is one of these frustrated right wingers. Has no candidate. So, as he clings to this comment section, he finds a release for his bitterness.
Barack Obama could have worked in any law firm after he graduated Law School. He could have taken a path to instant wealth. He had fantastic offers.
He ignored them to take a job in a law firm helping non profit organizations on South Side Chicago. Not talking about it like Clinton, doing it. Accually put his life where his mouth was, on the streets, helping a comminity recover from economic disaster.
This speaks to his character.
So Lil John, I know you have read the plans on his website, you have scoured the internet for the negative, you have tried your best to find fault.
Be careful, you might just start to believe in Barack Obanma & his message of change. You might look back & realize that the major issues before us, regardless of which side you are on, have had nothing done in the 15 Clinton Bush years.
The time for change is now. Join us.
The bottom line is
'HE SAID IT , HE MEANT IT, NOW HE'S TRYING TO CHANGE IT'.

"""And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," ""
Dave

United States

#206 Apr 14, 2008
Lil John wrote:
<quoted text>
You know in your heart , even if you can't speak it, what Obama was saying in San Francisco behind closed doors when he got caught..
Use all you mystical profiler powers to put the truth down but it speaks for itself.
Your 'Phony' got caught telling people what he really thinks , when he thought he was behind closed doors. Obama is a socialist, a phony and a hypocrite.
His veneer is being breeched and you don't like that. Stand by -- more to come.
BTW -------- His 'so called' plans, that you acknowledge I read, are not plans but promises/dreams that even any self-respecting 'snake oil' salesman wouldn't make.
If we are clinging to religion , what's his excuse for belonging to a church for 20 yrs? That was so phony!
Actually I heard a very similar comment on some of the pundit shows long ago. Evan Bayh (Indiana - Clinton Supporter) agreed with the comments.

Check the comment section - look at the responses to articles about religion & guns - immigration.

No one thinks they can speak to a group of people and not be recorded in this day & age.

There was nothing phony about his church other people like you who are pushing the issue as if 2 snippets represent a 30 year carrer. A church is more than the preacher. You mock not only this church but every black church, and take a swipe at all churches.

You say nothing when a white Republican, Ron Paul, says the same thing about our foreign policy. There a scads of books & articles written on our foreign policy and how it was a reason that Al Qaida does so well. We provide the fuel.

Rev Wright did not say it was our fault, he mearly indicated that were not faultless.

If you think God was proud of this country's slaughtering of the American Indian, slavery, wars about property & money & oil, killing 250,000 women & children with the atomic bombs, or stacking up naked prisoners in Iraq, then you are confusing God with some sick form of patriotism. This country, its government, has done some awful things. It is up to us to work toward improving this country, seeing our mistakes and correcting them.

Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#207 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I heard a very similar comment on some of the pundit shows long ago. Evan Bayh (Indiana - Clinton Supporter) agreed with the comments.
Check the comment section - look at the responses to articles about religion & guns - immigration.
No one thinks they can speak to a group of people and not be recorded in this day & age.
There was nothing phony about his church other people like you who are pushing the issue as if 2 snippets represent a 30 year carrer. A church is more than the preacher. You mock not only this church but every black church, and take a swipe at all churches.
You say nothing when a white Republican, Ron Paul, says the same thing about our foreign policy. There a scads of books & articles written on our foreign policy and how it was a reason that Al Qaida does so well. We provide the fuel.
Rev Wright did not say it was our fault, he mearly indicated that were not faultless.
If you think God was proud of this country's slaughtering of the American Indian, slavery, wars about property & money & oil, killing 250,000 women & children with the atomic bombs, or stacking up naked prisoners in Iraq, then you are confusing God with some sick form of patriotism. This country, its government, has done some awful things. It is up to us to work toward improving this country, seeing our mistakes and correcting them.
If any swipes were taken it was at your phony Obama.

He went to church for 20 yrs he claimed . yet if the common man goes to church he's clinging to religion.

It was more than a snippet go to huffington post and listen to the speech HE SAID , HE MEANT IT, NOW HE'S SPINNING IT!
Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#208 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I heard a very similar comment on some of the pundit shows long ago. Evan Bayh (Indiana - Clinton Supporter) agreed with the comments.
Check the comment section - look at the responses to articles about religion & guns - immigration.
No one thinks they can speak to a group of people and not be recorded in this day & age.
There was nothing phony about his church other people like you who are pushing the issue as if 2 snippets represent a 30 year carrer. A church is more than the preacher. You mock not only this church but every black church, and take a swipe at all churches.
You say nothing when a white Republican, Ron Paul, says the same thing about our foreign policy. There a scads of books & articles written on our foreign policy and how it was a reason that Al Qaida does so well. We provide the fuel.
Rev Wright did not say it was our fault, he mearly indicated that were not faultless.
If you think God was proud of this country's slaughtering of the American Indian, slavery, wars about property & money & oil, killing 250,000 women & children with the atomic bombs, or stacking up naked prisoners in Iraq, then you are confusing God with some sick form of patriotism. This country, its government, has done some awful things. It is up to us to work toward improving this country, seeing our mistakes and correcting them.
if any swipes were taken it was also by Obama at the hardworking men and women. When he was speaking to the ELITE party donors april 6th in calif.

For all to listen to here is the address of the ORGINAL SPEECH!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/...
Lil John

Landisburg, PA

#209 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I heard a very similar comment on some of the pundit shows long ago. Evan Bayh (Indiana - Clinton Supporter) agreed with the comments.
Check the comment section - look at the responses to articles about religion & guns - immigration.
No one thinks they can speak to a group of people and not be recorded in this day & age.
There was nothing phony about his church other people like you who are pushing the issue as if 2 snippets represent a 30 year carrer. A church is more than the preacher. You mock not only this church but every black church, and take a swipe at all churches.
You say nothing when a white Republican, Ron Paul, says the same thing about our foreign policy. There a scads of books & articles written on our foreign policy and how it was a reason that Al Qaida does so well. We provide the fuel.
Rev Wright did not say it was our fault, he mearly indicated that were not faultless.
If you think God was proud of this country's slaughtering of the American Indian, slavery, wars about property & money & oil, killing 250,000 women & children with the atomic bombs, or stacking up naked prisoners in Iraq, then you are confusing God with some sick form of patriotism. This country, its government, has done some awful things. It is up to us to work toward improving this country, seeing our mistakes and correcting them.
They tried to make it behind closed doors but failed. They ushered out the cameras and others but didn't do a 'pat down', I guess that's why the audio is not real good , but good enough!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/...

You csan't spin your way out of this one.

Clintons 57% Obama37% latest pool numbers today.
Dan

Bellefonte, PA

#210 Apr 14, 2008
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Dan,
Try getting the facts not something off you tube.
I don't care if you support a particular candidate but, at least get the facts striaght. People like you are what gave us presidents like Bush. People like you is why we have the politics of lies & personal destruction. Candidates know if they spreasd a rumor, somebody will believe it.
I have MY facts in order,,,,,sorry for your misguided way of thinking. I guess the Obama hype has got to you too.
Just Me

United States

#211 Apr 15, 2008
This is a Professor talking about Barracks Dads 8 Page letter!

The critics of this article are making a big mistake,” says Omwami, who at Politico’s request read the document and the associated Internet debate over the weekend.“They are assuming Obama senior is the one who came up with this concept of African socialism, but that’s totally wrong. Based on that, they’re imbuing in him the idea that he himself is a socialist, but he is not.”

Omwami says he would instead refer to the elder Obama as “a liberal person who believed in market forces but understood its limitations.” Sessional Paper No. 10 centered on the new control of Kenya’s resources, promoting a form of trickle-down economics in which financial aid would be consolidated in more populated areas with the hope that positive effects would eventually be felt by smaller villages.

Obama senior argued against this notion, and Omwami suggests history has proven him correct since most, if not all, small communities in Kenya have yet to benefit from monies that poured into larger cities since the nation’s independence four decades ago.

The elder Obama also looked ahead to what has become a shaping force across Africa — urbanization — arguing that the government’s efforts to lure citizens back to the land were futile.

“If these people come out in search of work, it is because they cannot make a living out of whatever land they have had,” he wrote.

In retrospect, it was one of several warnings in the paper that would prove true.

“If you understand the Kenyan context, you can clearly see in that paper that Obama senior was quite a sharp mind,” Omwami concluded.“He addresses economic growth and other areas of development, and his critique is that policymakers in Kenya were overemphasizing economic growth.

“We had high economic growth for years but never solved the problems of poverty, unemployment and unequal income distribution. And those problems are still there.”

Obama senior’s projections and critiques are so spot on, says Omwami, that he plans to assign the paper to his classes in the future.

Now you tell me this man was a bad man?
Just Me

United States

#212 Apr 16, 2008
And heres what the Goverment did to him? And This was right?

“Word got back to Kenyatta that the Old Man was a troublemaker, and he was called in to see the president. According to the stories, Kenyatta said to the Old Man that because he could not keep his mouth shut, he would not work again until he had no shoes on his feet,” Obama quoted his half-sister as telling him.

Obama wrote that his father was rehabilitated after Kenyatta’s death in 1978 but was by then broken and embittered.

Obama senior’s 1965 paper, however, brims with confidence and optimism.
Ann

Des Plaines, IL

#213 Apr 16, 2008
I am seeing so much "Bitterness" in some of these postings; could it be that Senator Obama hit the nail on the head with his comments (however mis-worded they might have been). I think some posters in this forum "doth protest too much".

GET A GRIP !!
Bill Clinton has made similar remarks, and so has Hillary,
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/bill ...
and nobody, thus far, has played "sound-bytes" of that...now why do you suppose that is??

HELLO...because it's not as big an issue as some (Lil John, Anon) would have you to believe.

Check out Jon Stewart's take on this non-issue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/jon -...

If that's not enough to put your mind at ease, take a look at who is endorsing Obama (Mr. "Born in the U.S.A.") Bruce Springsteen:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/bruc ...
Just Me

United States

#214 Apr 16, 2008
Is it just me or has it been Barrack that McCain & Hilliary been cracking on? Not to many times I can remember McCain saying things bad about Hilliary? I think McCain wants Hilliary to be Nominated so he can beat her! I Think McCain is not Wanting Barrack as Nomination cause Barrack will give McCain all he can handle & More and McCain might lose his temper and show the world how he really is! BEATABLE
Just Me

United States

#215 Apr 16, 2008
Boy the Ayers thing really came back on Hilliary! She says it was a disgrace to be associated with him, Barrack had enough, he says and your Husband aquited 2 of the members? Hilliary looked like a Deer in the Headlights! I loved it! No comment she says....
Lil John

Elizabethtown, PA

#216 Apr 16, 2008
Ann wrote:
I am seeing so much "Bitterness" in some of these postings; could it be that Senator Obama hit the nail on the head with his comments (however mis-worded they might have been). I think some posters in this forum "doth protest too much".
GET A GRIP !!
Bill Clinton has made similar remarks, and so has Hillary,
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/bill ...
and nobody, thus far, has played "sound-bytes" of that...now why do you suppose that is??
HELLO...because it's not as big an issue as some (Lil John, Anon) would have you to believe.
Check out Jon Stewart's take on this non-issue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/15/jon -...
If that's not enough to put your mind at ease, take a look at who is endorsing Obama (Mr. "Born in the U.S.A.") Bruce Springsteen:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/16/bruc ...
Missy they have played the bites over and over where were you? another person who knows the truth but prefers to look at obama as if he has a halo somewhere, maybe he left if at church for
wright to cling to.

Obama is going down especially after doing the two step Sunday night and with tonight in the 'avoiding the answers debate'!

huffington post link is a dead link. here is the real link for the speech
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/...
Listen to the whole speech not a bite.
Just Me

United States

#217 Apr 17, 2008
Check this out?

In January 1995, as the Clintons were licking their wounds from the 1994 congressional elections, a debate emerged at a retreat at Camp David. Should the administration make overtures to working class white southerners who had all but forsaken the Democratic Party? The then-first lady took a less than inclusive approach.

"Screw 'em," she told her husband. "You don't owe them a thing, Bill. They're doing nothing for you; you don't have to do anything for them."

The statement -- which author Benjamin Barber witnessed and wrote about in his book, "The Truth of Power: Intellectual Affairs in the Clinton White House" -- was prompted by another speaker raising the difficulties of reaching "Reagan Democrats." It stands in stark contrast to the attitude the New York Democrat has recently taken on the campaign trail, in which she has presented herself as the one candidate who understands the working-class needs.

"I don't think [Obama] really gets it that people are looking for a president who stands up for you and not looks down on you," she said this week.

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