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#42
Jul 31, 2008
 
my husband has had 8 surgeries and is very depressed and the insurance company wanted to take him off his pain pills so he decided maybe it would help so he went to detox the insurance company has blown everything out of preportion and they want him to stay off pain pills when clearly i can see he is in pain we cant win now especially with the drs. from detox is lying about what my husband told them and changed everything around to make him look bad I know his life and from what i read they took some of the truth and twisted it around and added a few lies on there own. i told them something and they even twisted that around. when we questioned the dr. he said "I'm the Dr. I can say what I want." but my point is dealing with insurance and dr. who now help insurance companies they could care less about the patient the bottom line is money to them.. so I say hit them where it hurts dont go after all drs. go after one main one and then get the insurance company they should not be protected ----who protects us.... I know if I wasnt able to stay home with my husband I dont even want to think what could happen I was working but I brought a kitten home for him to help him thru it once the new-ness of the kitten wore off I went and got a dog for him I tried many ways to get him thru this but now going thru this new situation with the insurance on top of pain but we did find a dr. who will give him pain pills but if the insurance company gets wind which they will... more then likely put an end to it he tried what they wanted it failed he is in pain. I cry alot over this I dont know what to do anymore. but I am so glad I am home with him I try to keep a positive outlook on things for him but deep inside I am angry and sad I try to keep upbeat but it is hard when i am dying inside.myself my head is spining I feel like giving up but I wont and refuse to let them win and I wont let them win with him either even though I see the light burning out of him everytime he gets letters from the insurance company and reads the letters from the dr. to the insurance I dont understand why the dr. lied but the only thing I can figure out is he is working with them. He is not addicted to pills he needs it for pain and most of the times he was undermedicated each dr. thinks they know better then the last dr. I know if I wasnt with my husband 24-7 he would of done what her husband did. I dont like leaving him alone sometimes I have to but I call as often as I possibly can. I always tell him how much I love him and dont want him to leave me but I can also see the pain he is in mentally and physically.
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#43
Aug 21, 2008
 
After a while the pain pills stop working and you become tolerant/addicted you have to take more and more pain pills to relieve the pain. Perhaps more serious attempts to remove the pain are needed such as cutting a nerve to the location the pain is coming from. The Dr who isn't helping don't go back to find a specialist that deals with his specific type of pain. There is hope for pain patients keep searching forget the he is addicted crap of course he is its all they have given him is pills. Could be to much surgery to repair and now he needs shots or surgery just to kill pain.

He must try to deal with more serious interventions then just the pills because they stop working and leave him in worse shape in the end they are a temporary fix only. Giving up doesn't kill pain depression makes pain much worse. He needs support emotionally to endure the pain like seeking a therapist for his emotional health.

You have to stay strong but active in helping him find help from a very different set of doctors than the ones you have now. All people in severe pain become addicted to pain meds if that's all the help they get!

Pain management may help but you have to be aggressive even with them and demand and yell and sue if needed. Most of all tell him he is normal and not an addict that there is a serious reason for his needing the meds. But in the end they stop working because the body adapts to them. Shots, surgery to just relieve the pain can be effective.
And may have to occur more than once.

All possibilities need to be evaluated in his case and then pursued. Giving up is not an option. Pain meds are only a temporary fix he needs more help.
InTheShadowTempl eTx

Killeen, TX

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Nov 21, 2008
 
I was a wife of a temple police officer. I was the office mgr for a DR.  The evening he paassed away, my husband and I went into the building that evening to notifiy the patients.  Five months later, the widow filed charges against us stating that we didn't have permission to enter. Sixteen months later, I was entering prison and my husband the temple police officer was cleared and ten months later I was released and divorced. To those of you that are struggling with addiction, whatever the drug of yout choice...I understand.  It seems and feels like a slow death.  I understand how it feels to know that you are innocent and it brings you to the point where addiction sets in, controls you and overpowers you. If you are looking for help, goodluck.  I have been everywhere and unless you have money it is going to hard.  Money is the root of all evil. Speaking of money, did I mention that "I" am also paying back the widow $15,510.22 for checks that were wrote during my employment of 16 months in which my husband had access to being that he was on the payroll and had his own key to the clinic. I struggle with addiction each minute that I take a breathe. I can't tell you of any one place to go for help. As you read, the doctors say what benefits them and the the person behind the badge is the only it protects. I'd actually trade my addiction for cancer! God be with all of you who struggle just as bad as I do or more. I am glad to be where I am at this moment but it can change for the worse at any second. God bless you!
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my heart is breaking wrote:
my husband has had 8 surgeries and is very depressed and the insurance company wanted to take him off his pain pills so he decided maybe it would help so he went to detox the insurance company has blown everything out of preportion and they want him to stay off pain pills when clearly i can see he is in pain we cant win now especially with the drs. from detox is lying about what my husband told them and changed everything around to make him look bad I know his life and from what i read they took some of the truth and twisted it around and added a few lies on there own. i told them something and they even twisted that around. when we questioned the dr. he said "I'm the Dr. I can say what I want." but my point is dealing with insurance and dr. who now help insurance companies they could care less about the patient the bottom line is money to them.. so I say hit them where it hurts dont go after all drs. go after one main one and then get the insurance company they should not be protected ----who protects us.... I know if I wasnt able to stay home with my husband I dont even want to think what could happen I was working but I brought a kitten home for him to help him thru it once the new-ness of the kitten wore off I went and got a dog for him I tried many ways to get him thru this but now going thru this new situation with the insurance on top of pain but we did find a dr. who will give him pain pills but if the insurance company gets wind which they will... more then likely put an end to it he tried what they wanted it failed he is in pain. I cry alot over this I dont know what to do anymore. but I am so glad I am home with him I try to keep a positive outlook on things for him but deep inside I am angry and sad I try to keep upbeat but it is hard when i am dying inside.myself my head is spining I feel like giving up but I wont and refuse to let them win and I wont let them win with him either even though I see the light burning out of him everytime he gets letters from the insurance company and reads the letters from the dr. to the insurance I dont understand why the dr. lied but the only thing I can figure out is he is working with them. He is not addicted to pills he needs it for pain and most of the times he was undermedicated each dr. thinks they know better then the last dr. I know if I wasnt with my husband 24-7 he would of done what her husband did. I dont like leaving him alone sometimes I have to but I call as often as I possibly can. I always tell him how much I love him and dont want him to leave me but I can also see the pain he is in mentally and physically.
Just shoot the idiot & save all us taxpayers money!!! You don't know what your doing & you want us to pay for it !! WHY???
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#46
Nov 21, 2008
 
To "my heart is breaking in Vincent,OH. I understand your frustration of how you feel that the dr and insurance company failed you. I worked for a Dr, just he and I in which my husband was on the payroll, had his own key. He took care of the yard and maintenance. I watched the dr struggle with pain pills due to a heart condition he had that end up winning. That eveing of the day he passed, my husband, the police officer and I went to the clinic to notify the patients. Five months later, the widow is filing charges alleging that we entered the building without permission and over $12,000 worth of checks were wrote. Fifteen months later, I am walking into prison and divorced. My husband, rather ex, still is with the local police department and doing extremely well. I struggle with addiction myself, It seems and feels like a slow death. I keep thinking maybe hoping it will finally win. For those of you who don't understand us, oit isn't easy. It isn't that easy for us to "just stop" we didn't ask for this to happen to us, it just did. It really isn't the type of life we said we wanted or wished for. It just happened. I have figured out that unless you have money...money is the root. To those of you that struggle and are reading looking for answers like I am, God be with you.

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RonMania wrote:
<quoted text>Just shoot the idiot & save all us taxpayers money!!! You don't know what your doing & you want us to pay for it !! WHY???
You're all heart dude. Hope you're always a "taxpayer" and never have anything happen to you that makes you incapacitated. Someone would then have to shoot you to save other taxpayer's money. Isn't that your "logic"?

Hitlerian mentality. Shoot the sick and helpless.

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To "my heart is breaking in Vincent,OH. I understand your frustration of how you feel that the dr and insurance company failed you. I worked for a Dr, just he and I in which my husband was on the payroll, had his own key. He took care of the yard and maintenance. I watched the dr struggle with pain pills due to a heart condition he had that end up winning. That eveing of the day he passed, my husband, the police officer and I went to the clinic to notify the patients. Five months later, the widow is filing charges alleging that we entered the building without permission and over $12,000 worth of checks were wrote. Fifteen months later, I am walking into prison and divorced. My husband, rather ex, still is with the local police department and doing extremely well. I struggle with addiction myself, It seems and feels like a slow death. I keep thinking maybe hoping it will finally win. For those of you who don't understand us, oit isn't easy. It isn't that easy for us to "just stop" we didn't ask for this to happen to us, it just did. It really isn't the type of life we said we wanted or wished for. It just happened. I have figured out that unless you have money...money is the root. To those of you that struggle and are reading looking for answers like I am, God be with you.
Unbelievable the stuff that happens. You say you're "looking for answers" and then "God be with you".......well, hello :)

God delivered me from addictions, also from deep suicidal depression and panic attacks that would rival a Stephen King movie.
You've just been looking for help in all the wrong places when help was right under your nose dear heart.

http://christianity.about.com/od/depressionan...

It's not like anythings too complicated for the creator of the universe. He's just waiting for you to come to him in repentance and willing to turn your life around to live for him. Then....things will start to straighten out.:)

God bless you

I'm truly sorry all that happened. Sometimes we have to get 2x4rd to wake up. But join the club dear.
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Nov 24, 2008
 
My husband suffered from alcoholism and bi-polar. Everytime he went to rehab for his disease, they kept him 10 days only. A severe alcoholic is NOT going to gain anything from 10 days of rehab. They need intensive therapy. The doctors gave him meds which did nothing - because, of course, he overmedicated himself, in an attempt to further his addiction. The doctors said he should have been on other medications- well, before they changed it, he committed suicide last year. He was 42 years old. Between my husband's mental illness and his addiction, it totally controlled BOTH of our lives and when he died, a part of me did too. I don't know if suing will do anything - but more power to you.

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My husband suffered from alcoholism and bi-polar. Everytime he went to rehab for his disease, they kept him 10 days only. A severe alcoholic is NOT going to gain anything from 10 days of rehab. They need intensive therapy. The doctors gave him meds which did nothing - because, of course, he overmedicated himself, in an attempt to further his addiction. The doctors said he should have been on other medications- well, before they changed it, he committed suicide last year. He was 42 years old. Between my husband's mental illness and his addiction, it totally controlled BOTH of our lives and when he died, a part of me did too. I don't know if suing will do anything - but more power to you.
The stories and the heartbreaks seem to be endless. So many dying needlessly. My heart goes out to you. I'm so sorry about what happened to you and your husband.

I seriously doubt if suing would accomplish anything. There are a few good doctors but they are few and far between.

The medical profession is full of charlatans, who seem to be above the law for the most part. There are so many ways to cover up their mistakes, and usually their mistakes are buried.

God bless you...
scott

Bossier City, LA

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#51
Jul 5, 2009
 
was this hospital part of tennth health corp if so please let me know
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