Chief Red Bird Kin- Are you out there?

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AHamm

Thompsons Station, TN

#1 Jan 5, 2009
I have been told all my life that Chief Red Bird was my GR,GR,GR Gr,Gr, Grand Father. So I was thinking,why not start a discussion here about it and see who else out there has been told this and to share your family line.
From my understand I am related on both sides of my Grandparents Carlo and Mae( Napier) Hubbard.
Anyone want to share what they know?
Also, does anyone know any history on Chief Red Bird? I know he was murdered and that REd Bird was named after him.
Look forward to hearing from You all.
looking

Green Bay, WI

#2 Jan 6, 2009
This site has some info on him.

http://www.brockancestry.com/
looking

Green Bay, WI

#3 Jan 6, 2009
Here' another link from the same site...

http://www.brockancestry.com/red_bird.htm
ahamm

Thompsons Station, TN

#4 Jan 6, 2009
THanks for the information
fellowdriver

Harrodsburg, KY

#5 Mar 16, 2010
AHamm wrote:
I have been told all my life that Chief Red Bird was my GR,GR,GR Gr,Gr, Grand Father. So I was thinking,why not start a discussion here about it and see who else out there has been told this and to share your family line.
From my understand I am related on both sides of my Grandparents Carlo and Mae( Napier) Hubbard.
Anyone want to share what they know?
Also, does anyone know any history on Chief Red Bird? I know he was murdered and that REd Bird was named after him.
Look forward to hearing from You all.
Cheif Red Bird was my 11th great-grandfather. this was from my dads side,which then was my granny Phronia "Brock" Nolan. I was a member of the Wind River Tribe until it fell apart. I am still a member of the one on Salagi mountain at Pinville. only a few know the many secrets i carry until i depart. But,my heritage i do not hide. Some family members do not admit they are from a Cherokee lineage,but i let them know i am. You can go to anything you wish on the language and other things on the web. i speak very little but useually when im pissed. osiyo..which means hello..there is no word for good-bye.
hi angie

Sizerock, KY

#6 Apr 18, 2010
its your cuz,i can tell you we are related on grandma's side,green napier and lizzy sizemore, they we're from buffalo mntn area and you are an heir to some land in that area,it's called punchen or punchon camp, on rock house,hows beck, deb your ma and all the kids doing and by the way,happy birthday to your daddy in heavan, i miss him....and i love you all, lets get together this summer and have an native american hubbard family reunion, wan't to? barrowed cousin lisas lap top so i don't have anyones E-MAIL addresses! call me and give me a few, see you soon, by the way am moveing back on the lake, have a big blue speed boat out side in front of the used to be store, we are selling out and building a cabin on the point and starting a bait shop,thinking of calling it MASTER BAIT'S ha ha ha just jokeing or maybe not!!!!
fellowdriver

Harrodsburg, KY

#7 Apr 24, 2010
hi angie wrote:
its your cuz,i can tell you we are related on grandma's side,green napier and lizzy sizemore, they we're from buffalo mntn area and you are an heir to some land in that area,it's called punchen or punchon camp, on rock house,hows beck, deb your ma and all the kids doing and by the way,happy birthday to your daddy in heavan, i miss him....and i love you all, lets get together this summer and have an native american hubbard family reunion, wan't to? barrowed cousin lisas lap top so i don't have anyones E-MAIL addresses! call me and give me a few, see you soon, by the way am moveing back on the lake, have a big blue speed boat out side in front of the used to be store, we are selling out and building a cabin on the point and starting a bait shop,thinking of calling it MASTER BAIT'S ha ha ha just jokeing or maybe not!!!!
i was also thinking of having my own bait storee and was going to call it master baits and the stores motto is,its not the size of your hook that counts its how you wiggle your worm. ha,ha
Becca

Thompsons Station, TN

#8 May 13, 2010
That is funny.. I am Angela's sister. Great information.
Angie

Thompsons Station, TN

#9 Jun 8, 2010
hi angie wrote:
its your cuz,i can tell you we are related on grandma's side,green napier and lizzy sizemore, they we're from buffalo mntn area and you are an heir to some land in that area,it's called punchen or punchon camp, on rock house,hows beck, deb your ma and all the kids doing and by the way,happy birthday to your daddy in heavan, i miss him....and i love you all, lets get together this summer and have an native american hubbard family reunion, wan't to? barrowed cousin lisas lap top so i don't have anyones E-MAIL addresses! call me and give me a few, see you soon, by the way am moveing back on the lake, have a big blue speed boat out side in front of the used to be store, we are selling out and building a cabin on the point and starting a bait shop,thinking of calling it MASTER BAIT'S ha ha ha just jokeing or maybe not!!!!
GReat Idea girl: Funny you bring up CastleRock-
The Rockcastle property is 1000's of acres I have the grants and some letter from Ford Bowlins Sister to our grandma Mae about that land. Ford would roll over if he read the letters his sis wrote to Mae. Ford Bowlin got the property out from under Mae's kids for back taxess because no-one paided them or told anyone it was up for auction. happened after Grandma Mae died. Not sure who was suppost to keep up with the tqaxes after she died, but who ever it was didnt paid them. Sad part was that Daddy was giving money and his part for the taxes.
my dad JOHN HUBBARD , 3 years before he died show me that land- we went up there and he showed me where his grandparents had a house. I watched him with tears going down his face See He had ( with othre family members )put money on the taxes. I saw the tears and ask him what was wrong. He was standing under that thing Ford build up there, He said" I can not give you much in this world , but I always thought I could give you a part of this, a place to alway call home. " it was sad. He at that point was going to find Ford to talk to him and mom talked him out of it. I wish she wouldnt have really - dad needed to understand why- He was broken hearted til the day he died over that land.
I have never seen dad cry - that was the only time. He did not understanding how we could have lost it like that. He took that to the grave. Ford is an ass for make dad cry and breaking his heart- not right at all. Sorry no disresct to Ford but John Hubbard was a great man and to see tearing going down his face well .. How can I say anything nice ?
That land was not just for all of us but for them as well. us and them and all family. to keep the family together- what a gift it could have been. Sad that what the great grandparents wanted didnt happen due to greed.
hey cuzz

Lewisport, KY

#10 Jul 17, 2010
Angie wrote:
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GReat Idea girl: Funny you bring up CastleRock-
The Rockcastle property is 1000's of acres I have the grants and some letter from Ford Bowlins Sister to our grandma Mae about that land. Ford would roll over if he read the letters his sis wrote to Mae. Ford Bowlin got the property out from under Mae's kids for back taxess because no-one paided them or told anyone it was up for auction. happened after Grandma Mae died. Not sure who was suppost to keep up with the tqaxes after she died, but who ever it was didnt paid them. Sad part was that Daddy was giving money and his part for the taxes.
my dad JOHN HUBBARD , 3 years before he died show me that land- we went up there and he showed me where his grandparents had a house. I watched him with tears going down his face See He had ( with othre family members )put money on the taxes. I saw the tears and ask him what was wrong. He was standing under that thing Ford build up there, He said" I can not give you much in this world , but I always thought I could give you a part of this, a place to alway call home. " it was sad. He at that point was going to find Ford to talk to him and mom talked him out of it. I wish she wouldnt have really - dad needed to understand why- He was broken hearted til the day he died over that land.
I have never seen dad cry - that was the only time. He did not understanding how we could have lost it like that. He took that to the grave. Ford is an ass for make dad cry and breaking his heart- not right at all. Sorry no disresct to Ford but John Hubbard was a great man and to see tearing going down his face well .. How can I say anything nice ?
That land was not just for all of us but for them as well. us and them and all family. to keep the family together- what a gift it could have been. Sad that what the great grandparents wanted didnt happen due to greed.
angie you have a few of your facts distorted, first of all you are talking about punching camp on rock house, and grandma was told if she married our grandfather she would get nothing,and she chose to do so anyway,and maybe a couple hundred acres if that, not thousands,but was lots of coal and timber there,now i don't know anything about your dad and fords deals,first i ever heard of that, all i know is he was always good to me and my brothers, nothing but respect for him in my book! now you wan't to talk about deeds and wills, i am holding grampaws last will and testament in my safe, you are more than welcome to read his final wishes if you choose to do so, everything he had was to go to lavonda mike and robbie,he was told by one of his children they promised to pay off that place in bancroft and put a roof over our heads and watch over us,not long after his death three orfened children had there clothes put into garbage bags and we're sent to ky, to live with aunt edith,the only one willing to give her dead sisters chilren a home.and then there was mike, one of moms brothers told that poor kid if he sued toy ballard, they would never speak to him again,he almost took that one to the grave with him, one week before he died ,after two decades of me begging him to tell me which of them we're so rotten, he told me which of the three it was! i will take that to my grave, as i gave him my word..my advice to you dearest cousin of mine, do not dwell in the past,look for what lies in your future,everyone has to face god someday and give an account for their actions,thats the only true justice in this cold world we walk through everyday, i love you cousin and you need not worry about things which can never be changed.. love you girl, would never tell you wrong!
Just saw this

Thompsons Station, TN

#11 Oct 15, 2010
That is correct it was RockHouse,(where did I get Rock Castle lol) You need to Ask mom about paying taxes on that property in the 1970's before mae died. They all gave money. Mom can tell you in detail about what happened and how dad was in the dark to alot of stuff.
Ford Bowling purchased it off the stairs of the court house after Grandpa died sometime for back taxes. Joe and Dorthy went down after this to see what legal could be done. When Joe came back to Michigan, he told dad that he may as well forget the land we losted it to back taxes nothing could be done.

Sometime I will come visit ya. LOVE YA TOO<
Kris

Columbus, OH

#12 May 19, 2011
I am seventh generation from Chief Red Bird. My great Grandfather was Oscar Begley. His mother was Ella, the Chief was Ella's great great grandfather.
somewhere

Chesnee, SC

#13 May 19, 2011
I am somewheres in that line....
if chief

Lewisport, KY

#14 Jun 7, 2011
redbird was real and not a legend, then why aren't they no body with the last name redbird?proves it just was a legend..
the legend you know about

Green Bay, WI

#15 Sep 17, 2011
is the one between your legs,your just another trouble maker on here with no one at home to argue with because of that legand,you know the one between your legs, who do you think was here before you and your irish or english relatives stole there land and are you aware that they loaded all the unwanted shitheads from those other countrys on those boats to get ride of what they turmed unworthy to be in their own countrys.. cheif red bird was real, you can bet your white ass on that,look it up, they gave you some web sites above, or are you to busy trying to fight with other people on here, because no one will marrie or wants to listen to your bullchit?....
Mark

Lady Lake, FL

#16 Oct 9, 2011
Red bird was my 8th great grandfather.
somewheres

Chesnee, SC

#17 Oct 13, 2011
Mark wrote:
Red bird was my 8th great grandfather.
Hi what do you have about redbiird the cheiif indian?
okk

Richmond, KY

#18 Oct 16, 2011
He is my 8th Great Grandfather on my mother's side. Hi everyone!
Mark

Ocala, FL

#19 Oct 31, 2011
somewheres wrote:
<quoted text> Hi what do you have about redbiird the cheiif indian?
Just what the history books and the internet says .
somewheres

Chesnee, SC

#20 Nov 3, 2011
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
Just what the history books and the internet says .
same here

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