A Tribut To Those Who Spoke Out

A Tribut To Those Who Spoke Out

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Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#1 Aug 7, 2010
Uh I'm the First to speak out in this state or probably in the whole souther part of the USA, It was Me who Got threw off of BDFT Hey Martha 3 times and 2 other web sites, so the Wizard of Air, has won the tribute for having a Mind that "can't "be bought.<(:){
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/isra...
Israel did 9/11, ALL THE PROOF IN THE WORLD!!
December 1, 2009
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This article was written and prepared by ZCF (zioncrimefactory); MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

For the full report visit this website today! Make sure to check out this article entitled “A Tribute To Those Who Spoke Out” commemorating all of those honest, honorable and courageous Jews who had the heart and good will to put their own neck out on the line to speak out against this criminal cabal. To them we owe our gratitude and respect.

My Coment_ to those who sold out, Shame on you bunch of Comunist brain washed Idiots. <(:){ And now you see why the Muslim world hate us so much.
No''' I'm not a Muslim and never was and never will be but I am a believer in Christ, that's something most Christians are running from,,,,,"the truth"".<(:){
the devil

Brownsburg, VA

#2 Aug 7, 2010
way to go wizard! i enjoy reading your posts. have learned some stuff from you in a short time. keep posting and i'll keep on reading. i particulariy like the scriptures. i'm another one that don't want to belong to any one church...denomination.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#3 Aug 7, 2010
the devil wrote:
way to go wizard! i enjoy reading your posts. have learned some stuff from you in a short time. keep posting and i'll keep on reading. i particulariy like the scriptures. i'm another one that don't want to belong to any one church...denomination.
Well even if you are the Devil, I'll talk and type and you can read. But like Jesus said, we have to trust in teh creator.
We were hit on 9-11-01 at the Island in the center of the world.
"Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God" (Ecc. 5:19).

"Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all" (I Chron. 29:12).

"But you shall remember the Lord your God for it is HE that gives you power to get wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore unto your fathers, as it is this day" (Deut. 8:18).

Since it is God Who empowers nations to get wealth, just who did God empower the most? The wealthiest nation on earth must figure into this declaration of God.

God was speaking to Israel when He made this prophecy, therefore, other prophecies for the future that regard "Israel," must also be making reference to the wealthiest nation, as wealth is one of the most obvious blessings on that nation. Let’s look at America’s wealth.

The GNP (Gross National Product) of the world is approximately $30 trillion dollars. Divide that among the 6 billion people of the world, and the average person would get $5000 a year. Americans earn an average of $38,000 a year.

The total wealth of the world is approximately $70 trillion dollars. Divide that among the 6 billion people of the world, and the average person would be worth $11,000. The average American is worth $60,000, and the average American household has a combined net worth of $182,000. Of the combined Gross National Product of the world ($30 trillion dollars), America gets $10 trillion dollars or thirty-three percent (one third)!

One more statistic based on religion. If we add the GNP of the next three wealthiest Christian countries (Germany, Britain, and France) to America’s GNP, it would be greater than all the other 190 countries of the world COMBINED! So trust me when I say that America figures more prominently in end time prophecy than any other nation on earth.

But this paper is not just about American prosperity, but also its responsibility toward God for that prosperity, as God also provided a disclaimer in the next verse showing the consequences should we turn from God:

"And it shall be, if you do at all forget the Lord your God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that YOU SHALL SURELY PERISH" (Deut. 8:18-19).
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#4 Aug 7, 2010
A Short Essay of how it happened on 9-11-01.
http://bible-truths.com/towers.htm
THE ISLAND AT THE CENTER OF THE WORLD"
[Book Title by Russell Shorto]

"And it shall come to pass, if you shall hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord your God, to observe and to do all His commandments which I command you this day, that the Lord your God will set you on high ABOVE ALL NATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And all these blessings shall come on you, and overtake you, if you shall hearken unto the voice of the lord your God. Blessed shall you be IN THE CITY…" (Deut. 28:1-3).

Israel was NEVER "...on high above all nations of the earth!" And why was that? Because Israel could not "hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord." Their greatest glory was under the rule of Solomon who turned into one of the worst idolaters in Israel’s history. Oh they meant well:

"And ALL the people answered together and said, ALL that the Lord has spoken WE WILL DO. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the Lord" (Exodus 19:8).

But before the ink was even dry on the paper of their promise, Moses told Israel this:

"Gather unto me [Moses] all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.

For I know that after my death you will UTTERLY CORRUPT YOURSELVES, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because you will do evil in the sight of the lord, to provoke Him to anger through the works of your hands" (Deut. 31:29).

So, if ancient Israel, historic Israel, and today's State of Israel, was not and is not, "above all nations of the earth," then who is above all?

America is, and New York City is the "center" of this Nations great power and wealth. Manhattan Island truly is The Island At The Center Of The World, and here is how it started:
HOW MANHATTAN (NEW YORK CITY) CAME TO BE

I can’t say, "New York City" without thinking of the ad in which a cowboy reads the label on a jar of salsa: "Made in New York City!" to which a sidekick remarks, "Get a ROPE!" Well, without New York City they probably wouldn’t have ever had a rope or an open range in which to use it. As we will soon see, New York City once had its own cowboys, and the island was teaming with horses, sheep and cattle.

Back in the sixteenth century there were groups of Christians in Europe who were persecuted by both the Catholic Church and the State Churches. In England they were called Puritans, in France, Huguenots, and in French speaking Belgium and surrounding areas, they were called Walloons.

And let’s not forget the Germans. Most Americans don’t realize that German is now and always has been the largest ethnic group in the United States, at 15% following by the Irish at 10%.

Although most Americans have never even heard of the Walloons of Wallonia, maybe they figure into history more prominently than we’ll ever know. This from the "EUPEDIA Forum:

"In the 52nd chapter of his ''Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,'' Edward Gibbon posed one of the great counterfactual questions of history. If the French had failed to defeat an invading Muslim army at the Battle of Poitiers in A.D. 732, would all of Western Europe have succumbed to Islam?

It wasn't the French, but the Franks who defeated the Moors in Poitiers in 732. Granted that the battle took place in what is now France, but the leader of the Frankish army, Charles Martel, was born and raised in what is now Wallonia, in Belgium.

Genetically, modern Belgians have a higher proportion of Frankish blood than the French. So, in the same way as the first crusade was led by a Walloon/Belgian (Godfroid de Bouillon), the Muslims were also defeated by a Walloon/Belgian 360 years before.

Without the Walloons, Europe (and the Americas) could indeed be Muslim now!"
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#5 Aug 7, 2010
HOW MANHATTAN (NEW YORK CITY) CAME TO BE

I can’t say, "New York City" without thinking of the ad in which a cowboy reads the label on a jar of salsa: "Made in New York City!" to which a sidekick remarks, "Get a ROPE!" Well, without New York City they probably wouldn’t have ever had a rope or an open range in which to use it. As we will soon see, New York City once had its own cowboys, and the island was teaming with horses, sheep and cattle.

Back in the sixteenth century there were groups of Christians in Europe who were persecuted by both the Catholic Church and the State Churches. In England they were called Puritans, in France, Huguenots, and in French speaking Belgium and surrounding areas, they were called Walloons.

And let’s not forget the Germans. Most Americans don’t realize that German is now and always has been the largest ethnic group in the United States, at 15% following by the Irish at 10%.

Although most Americans have never even heard of the Walloons of Wallonia, maybe they figure into history more prominently than we’ll ever know. This from the "EUPEDIA Forum:

"In the 52nd chapter of his ''Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire,'' Edward Gibbon posed one of the great counterfactual questions of history. If the French had failed to defeat an invading Muslim army at the Battle of Poitiers in A.D. 732, would all of Western Europe have succumbed to Islam?

It wasn't the French, but the Franks who defeated the Moors in Poitiers in 732. Granted that the battle took place in what is now France, but the leader of the Frankish army, Charles Martel, was born and raised in what is now Wallonia, in Belgium.

Genetically, modern Belgians have a higher proportion of Frankish blood than the French. So, in the same way as the first crusade was led by a Walloon/Belgian (Godfroid de Bouillon), the Muslims were also defeated by a Walloon/Belgian 360 years before.

Without the Walloons, Europe (and the Americas) could indeed be Muslim now!"
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#6 Aug 7, 2010
There was great religious fervor in Western Europe in the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries. The Reformation started in Germany and spread westward to the British Isles, Netherlands, Belgium, and France. Many wanted deliverance from the iron hand of the Catholic and State sponsored Churches. They wanted freedom to worship God even if it meant moving into the wilderness among savage Indians—not unlike Israel entering the promised land under Joshua.

In 1623, the two-year-old West Dutch Indies Company was eager to start trade with the American Indians, especially for their quality furs. They wanted permanent colonies to aid in this new opportunity. In 1623 a young 19 yr. old man from Valenciennes, France, by the name of Joris Jansen De Rapalje (pronounced Rap-el-YAY), and his 18 yr. old girlfriend, Catelyntje Jeronimus Trico from Paris, were promising prospects for this new venture. From the recently published book on Manhattan by Russell Shorto, The Island At The Center Of The World, we read that Joris and Catelyntje, "…agreed to take part in the wildly hazardous enterprise on the condition that the company marry them in a hastier-than-normal ceremony, which took place four days before their ship [The Unity] left Amsterdam."

When they reached the New World, they settled up river from Manhattan, at Fort Orange (Now Albany N.Y.). They lived on the ship until the fort was completed. The following year Catelyntje gave birth to their daughter Sara, who is officially acknowledged as being the first European born child in New York. Some historians have called Joris and Catelyntje, "The Adam and Eve of New Netherlands," and one source calls Catelyntje, "The Mother of New York."

Because of the Mohawk and Mohican Indian wars of 1625, however, it was decided for safety’s sake, to move from Fort Orange down to Manhattan Island. By 1628 they had completed Fort Amsterdam which they hoped would help protect them from local Indian attacks. They also built a church. Ironically, today The National Museum of the American Indian sits on the exact original site of Fort Amsterdam, which is part of Battery Park.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#7 Aug 7, 2010
Their first houses were little more than huts. It took five additional years of European immigration before Manhattan (New York City, mind you) had reached a permanent population of 300. Ships brought new immigrants to American and took discouraged colonists back to Europe. Life was hard, but not as futile as was Jamestown. They grew enough food and hunted enough game to survive, but little was left to profit the West Dutch Indies Company. Joris built two homes and lived in the one that became house #5 in Section G on Pearl Street right next to the wall of the Fort. Manhattan was simply a large farm. As the colony grew, streets were laid out and buildings constructed according to strict codes.

In 1637 Joris bought 330 acres on Long Island from the Indians for what was reported to be "a lot of merchandise." Here he raised produce for guests of his hotel/tavern which he built on Pearl St. When Sara was grown she married Teunis Bogart (7th great grandfather of Humphrey Bogart), and helped run the family tavern. Catelyntje’s second daughter, Marie, along with her husband, ran a tobacco plantation in what is now Greenwich Village. It all seems so surreal—New York City covered with fields, orchards, and cattle. The Rapalje’s grew and prospered as did Manhattan. Joris was for a time one of the Council of Twelve to consult with Governor Kieft regarding unrest among the Indians. This was the beginning of representative government among the Dutch settlements in America.

And there was unrest among the Indians. Sara’s son, Jacob, was killed by the Indians while sitting on the front steps of their tavern. They needed better protection from the Indians. The fort was getting too small to hold all of the town’s people, so in 1653 it was decided to build a palisade of solid planks tapered to a point with a 12 foot wide and 5 foot deep trench paralleled by a street. They called this palisade barricade, "The Wall," and it went all the way across lower Manhattan from the Hudson River to the East River.

How much protection was this "Wall?" Just two years later there was another Indian uprising when a farmer killed a squaw for stealing peaches from his orchard. This time 2000 Indians gathered on the Hudson of which 700 landed on Manhattan. These Indians killed 100, took 150 captives, and burned many homes leaving 300 homeless.

About this time Joris sold his business and property on Pearl Street, and moved to Long Island. He built the first home on Long Island on property partly covered today by the Brooklyn Naval Yards and Hospital. He served for years as a Magistrate of Brooklyn where he lived out his life. Near the end of Joris’ life, New York was under the control of the English. Joris and his family along with a few dozen other families had found religious freedom in America. Soon their number swelled to thousands, then hundreds of thousands, and now many millions.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#8 Aug 7, 2010
They had big families. Joris and Catelyntje gave birth to eleven children for which we have baptismal records. The Rapalje family and their descendants lived in religious freedom for exactly one and a half centuries before America was even a nation.

But it was not their goodness that gave them freedom. Christians didn’t build this nation. Our founding fathers did not build this nation. It was God’s time to build a city and a nation. The unseen hand of God built American, and God can take it away.

"And you say in your heart MY power and the might of MY hand has gotten me this wealth. But you shall remember the Lord your God: for it is HE that gives you power to get wealth... And it shall be, if you do at all forget the Lord your God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that YOU SHALL SURELY PERISH" (Deut. 8:17-19).
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#9 Aug 7, 2010
FAST FORWARD THREE AND ONE-HALF CENTURIES

In just a few short years it will be 2023, exactly FOUR HUNDRED YEARS since Joris and Catelyntje sailed to America to find freedom. That’s a long time.

How shocked would they be to find that "The Wall" that was supposed to protect them from their enemies is still here. Today we call it "WALL Street," the Financial Capital of the World. It’s still there, right where it was 350 years ago.

And Americans still look to the power symbolized in this "Wall" to protect them from their enemies.



THE IMPORTANCE OF SYMBOLISM

Just off Wall Street is the World Trade Center, where the recent Twin Towers symbolized the power and might of America. The Towers were more than just office buildings; they were symbols of the grandest kind. They stood 110 stories each (1,368 ft.), that’s over a quarter mile high. The Towers were seven years in the building, and boasted 10,000,000 sq. ft.(240 acres) of office space where 50,000 people worked. The tenants were diversified, but mostly it was a center for banks, trading companies, manufacturing headquarters, shipping fleets, securities, insurance, financial institutions, and did I mention banks?

The greatest center of financial power in the world is New York City. And the Symbol of Power for that "Great City" was the Twin Towers. Previously it was the Empire State Building: New York is the "Empire State."

When those Twin Tower Symbols fell, it was not just another disaster—it was a symbol of disaster to come of "BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS!"

Let’s see what God’s Word says about this monstrous event of September 11, 2001.



ISAIAH 30

Isaiah was the first of the "Latter Prophets," (Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and the "Twelve Minor Prophets), and he had a public ministry of approximately 60 years.

Isaiah is considered the greatest of all Hebrew writers, and considered a man of refinement and culture, "a truly poetic soul," and a profound observer of creation and of human nature, a true statesman, and called by some, "the Evangelist of the Old Testament."

The Book of Isaiah is considered to be a bible within the bible. It consists of sixty-six chapters (66 books of the Bible). The first 39 chapters are likened to the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures with its judgments upon sinful humanity. And the last 27 chapters are likened to the 27 books of the Greek Scriptures which bring salvation through the Messiah. Isaiah’s prophecies cover thousands of years. Isaiah 30 covers thousands of years:

Isaiah 30:1-3, 6-7—"Woe to the rebellious children [Israel], says the Lord, that take counsel, but not of ME: and cover with a covering [Heb:‘make an alliance’ or ‘ratify a covenant’], but not of MY spirit [Heb:‘against My will’], that they may add sin to sin.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#10 Aug 7, 2010
That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked of MY mouth [Heb:‘asked My advice’], to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of EGYPT!

Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion [Heb:‘humiliation’]."

…they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young donkeys, and their treasures upon the humps of camels, to a people that shall not profit them."

For the Egyptians shall help in vain, and to no purpose: therefore have I cried concerning this, Their strength is to sit still [Heb:‘therefore I have called her, Rahab {an epithet of Egypt} who sits still,’ or ‘Insolent they sit still,’ or ‘Dragon do nothing’]."

The beginning of Israel’s captivity (northern 10 tribes) was taking place near the beginning of Isaiah’s ministry. Israel had depended upon alliances with other nations to protect them from Assyria, but Assyria defeated Israel’s allies as well.

Now Judah is making overtures to Egypt for protection from Assyria’s advances. But before Judah is attacked, Assyria is defeated by Babylon and now Judah has a new foe to fear. Judah's attempt to buy an ally fails for them as it did for Israel:

I realize the following may sound a little complicated (hence my bracket comments), but it is necessary to see from experts on Biblical History, that Israel’s and Judah’s alliances on foreign powers had zero effect on saving both of their nations.

“When Israel [the northern ten tribes] confidently made its pact with Damascus [the capital city of Aram (Syria) north of Palestine and Israel], it found itself allied with Judah's enemy when Damascus attacked Judah in its own attempts for conquest. Three years after the pact Damascus itself was overrun by Assyria [northeast of Syria, in 739 BC], nullifying any value to Israel that the pact had promised.

Likewise, Judah made its alliance with Egypt [while Assyria was still in power]. When Babylon [who had now conquered Assyria] swept over Judah Egypt failed to honor its part of the alliance and had long before retreated from Nebuchadnezzar's advance, leaving Judah defenseless." (American Journal of Biblical Theology).

And so we have the historical fulfillment of this Isaiah 30. Or do we? It has been remarked many times that "prophecy is dual." Actually, I believe that many prophecies are multi-layered. That is, they are numerous fulfillment's usually beginning with the physical and literal, moving toward the figurative and spiritual. Example: In the very first book of the Bible, Genesis, we have mention of physical Sodom and Egypt (Genesis 13:10), but in the very last book of the Bible we have mentioned "spiritual" Sodom and Egypt (Rev. 11:8).
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#11 Aug 7, 2010
So, who is Egypt and Sodom TODAY? And who is Israel TODAY?

Is the Israel of all these major prophecies (foretold to happen before the coming of God’s government to this earth), the handful of racially mixed tenants of the State of Israel today? Give me a break.

Is the Jerusalem in prophecy inside today's Israel? Don’t take my word for it

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified" (Rev. 11:8).

And where was our Lord crucified? In literal Sodom? NO. In literal Egypt? NO. He was crucified in Jerusalem, which is now for prophetic purposes, "SODOM & EGYPT!"

And when does God’s word tell us "Jerusalem" (which symbolizes all Judah and all Israel) will be restored?

"When your sisters, Sodom and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then YOU [Jerusalem, Verse 2] and your daughters shall return to your former estate" (Ezek. 16:55).

This can only happen after "…the day of the great slaughter when the towers fall" as Sodom is still in the grave. They have not been restored since their original slaughter and destruction.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#12 Aug 7, 2010
WHEN GENTILES ARE JEWS AND JEWS ARE NOT JEWS
[Is American Part of Prophecy?]

Now for one of the most profound scriptural truths you will ever learn; nowhere taught or believed in Christendom.

According to virtually all Christian teachers and scholars, when prophecy mentions Jerusalem, Judah, or Israel, it is speaking of literal Jerusalem, Judah, or Israel. For them, if "context, context, context" is the god of theological interpretation, then "literal, literal, literal," has got to be their vice-god. If this is true, then when it speaks of "Abraham’s seed," it must mean "literal" bloodline descendants of Abraham, correct? No, NOT correct!

What was the most holy, righteous, sure sign that one was a descendant of Abraham and obedient to the One True God? Answer: Being circumcised the 8th day.

"This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and your seed after you; Every man child among you shall be CIRCUMCISED" (Gen. 17:10).

Now then, who are the "circumcised Jews" of end time prophecy? Are they the literal, physical, circumcised Jews who are the literal, physical Jews of the literal, physical racial line of Abraham? NO:

"For he is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly [physically circumcised and of the physical line of Abraham] neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh: But he IS a Jew which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and NOT of the letter [context, context, context: literal, literal, literal]; whose praise is not of men, but of God" (Rom. 2:28-29).

Notice that this Scripture is found in "Romans." Rome is a Gentile nation, not a nation of Israel. Paul is telling Gentile Romans that THEY can be the TRUE JEW INWARDLY OF THE HEART AND SPRIT. Wow! Romans can be "JEWS?" Who would have ever thought? Maybe that was just a slip of Paul’s tongue. Surely he isn’t telling us that under the New Covenant GENTILES ARE JEWS is he? Here’s a second witness:

"Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision [mutilation—those Jews who wanted to cut off the flesh of grown men among the Gentiles]. FOR WE [former pagan, present GENTILE Philippians of Philippi—North Central Greece] ARE THE CIRCUMCISION which worship God in the spirit and rejoice in Christ Jesus, an have NO confidence in the flesh" (Phil. 3:2-3).

According to God, are those literal, physical Jews of the racial line of Abraham who are circumcised in the flesh, "Jews." NO, former pagan Gentiles are the TRUE JEWS according to Scripture.

But weren’t all the "promises" to Abraham for "HIS SEED? Yes, of course, but the question now is, "Who IS Abraham’s seed?"
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#13 Aug 7, 2010
Not as though the word of God has taken none effect [God is not contradicting here]. For they are NOT all Israel, which are Israel. Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children, but, In Isaac shall your seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the FLESH, these are NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD: but the children of the PROMISE ARE counted for the seed" (Rom. 9:6-8).

Yes, God intended from the beginning that the TRUE JEW, the SPIRITUAL JEW, the TRUE SEED of Abraham, the TRUE HEIR to the promises was to be the GENTILES!

"And if you [Paul is writing to GENTILE Galatians] be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s SEED, and HEIRS according to the PROMISE" (Gal. 3:29).

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature [or creation]. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the ISRAEL OF GOD" (Gal. 6:15-16).

Yes, it is the "new creature in Christ Jesus" which is now "the ISRAEL OF GOD," not the Christ forsaking Jews of modern day Palestine.

"…they who ARE the Israel of God" (The Twentieth Century N. T.).

"…on the TRUE Israel of God" (Williams Translation).

"…to the TRUE Israel of God" (Phillips Translation).

Can Christ’s Church also be a "nation?" It can and it is:

"But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy NATION, a peculiar people: that you should show forth the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light: Which in time past were NOT A PEOPLE [they were pagan and they were GENTILE. See Rom. 10:20], but are NOW the people of God; which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy" (I Pet. 2:9-10).

The Church of Christ has grown into a "Great House," with many children. Paul explains:

"But in A GREAT HOUSE there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth and some to honor, and some to dishonor" (II Tim. 2:20).

Just what is this "great house" of which Paul speaks? Let Paul answer:

"But if I tarry long, that you may know how you ought to behave yourself in the House of God which is The Church of the Living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (I Tim. 3:15).

The Apostle Peter tells us that this House of God definitely needs judging:
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#14 Aug 7, 2010
"For the time is come that JUDGMENT must begin at The House of God…" (I Pet. 4:17).

If the "House of God" needed judgment in the days of the Apostles, how much more judgment does it need today? And what did Paul prophesy would happen in this "GREAT House" in our day, "in the LATTER TIMES?" Let’s read it from the source:

"Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the LATTER TIMES some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking LIES IN HYPOCRISY; having their conscience seared with a hot iron" (I Tim. 4:1-2).

And this:

"This, know also, that IN THE LAST DAYS, perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent [without self-control], fierce [brutal], despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady [reckless], high-minded [haughty], lovers of pleasures more than [rather than] lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away… EVER learning, and NEVER able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (II Tim. 3:1-7).

Some Christians naively believe Paul and all these prophecies are speaking of the whole world of mankind in general. Oh no He isn't:

It is not the atheistic heathen world which has "departed from the faith," who "blaspheme God," who have a "form of godliness," or who have "turned away from such."

Oh no. It is the HOUSE OF GOD which has done these things and continues to do them. It is the "CHURCH of the Living God." It is: "THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, AND THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH" who commits spiritual fornication by going to the "Egypts" of this world and making alliances with the nations rather than trusting in God.

And lest we get puffed up in the realization that the Christian democracies of America and Europe are indeed the "ISRAEL OF GOD" in prophecy, let us not forget that God’s Church is made up of the "MANY called, but FEW chosen" (Matt. 22:14 & Matt. 7:21-23).

And so, although Isaiah 30 speaks of physical, literal Egypt and Judah, and both these nations fulfilled the prophecy of Isa. 30:10-7, this is not, however, the main fulfillment of Isaiah 30 at all. And how can I say that? Because Isaiah 30:8 dates this prophecy to a far distant future fulfillment. Therefore all these symbols were for a future yet unfulfilled event.

We know that Judah went down bearing gifts to Egypt for her to be an ally and protect her against the northern kingdoms, but the real fulfillment is for a larger symbolic Judah and Egypt.
Wizard Of Air

Rupert, WV

#15 Aug 7, 2010
ISAIAH 30:8 PUTS THIS PROPHECY WAY BEYOND HIS DAY

"Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever" (Isa. 30:8).

What, pray tell did the translators mean by "the time to come for ever and ever?"

How can a "time to come" be "for ever?" If this prophecy is "for" "a time to come for ever," then this prophecy could never be fulfilled, as the time of the event or for the event would never end? How pray tell can an event that lasts "for ever," ever be fulfilled?

Then to add insult to injury we are left to believe that this "for ever" will ALSO last "for ever." As it is to last "for ever and FOR EVER" AGAIN. Just how many "for EVERS" do these translators and theologians think there are?

Now then, who do I think I am that I can explain these words? Am I a Hebrew scholar? No. Do I even know Hebrew? No. But one doesn’t always need to be a scholar to see the truth in a matter the translators failed to see. Were the Wright brothers aeronautical engineers? No. Then why would anyone in their right mind stand out on a windy hillside and watch their antics? Because THEY KNEW HOW TO FLY AIRPLANES, that’s why.

The phrase translated "for the time to come for ever and ever" came from the following Hebrew words:

Hebrew: Olum od lod achrun lium uthei

English: eon until future after the-day and she shall become

As Hebrew reads from right to left, let’s reverse it to, left to right:

"and she shall become the day after future until eon"

There is no repeat of the word "eon" so even erroneously translating "eon" into "for ever," still doesn’t justify "for ever AND EVER" as in the King James. As it is a physiological impossibility for a sequence of prophetic events to ever be fulfilled if the fulfillment period is not only "for ever," but also for ANOTHER "for ever." Here are some responsible translations of this verse:

"…and it shall come to be for the day hereafter, For the future, till the eon" (Concordant Literal Old Testament).

"…That it may serve for a latter day, For futurity, unto times age-abiding" (Rotherham’s Amplified Bible).

"…And it is for a latter day, for a witness unto the age" (Young’s Literal Translation).

Now then, it is easily seen that the above three versions include all the words, in the proper sequence, and with the proper translations. Young’s translation of "lod" (future), into "a witness," is a little weak, but certainly far more accurate than the King James family of Bibles which is "for EVER."

Here’s the simple truth of this phrase: This prophecy is principally for a "future day and time until or unto an age to come." This is speaking of a period of TRANSITION from one age to another age! What may appear to be a phrase that many would think to be hazy and ambiguous, is in reality quite precise.

The first half of this prophecy is gloom and doom at the end of THIS age, but it ushers in the time of God’s blessings in the NEXT age that follows even though the theme of that age is JUDGMENT. There is going to come peace and harmony out of God’s judgments:
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Rupert, WV

#16 Aug 7, 2010
for when Thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn RIGHTEOUSNESS" (Isa. 26:9).



THE UNITED STATES AND EGYPT IN PROPHECY

If the United States is the primary nation among those making up the "Great House" of symbolic Israel, then we must see evidence of her going to the nations rather than to God for defense from her enemies. But surely as great a nation as the United States would not be involved in so insignificant a nation as today's Egypt, would she? Does the United States...

"…carry their riches upon the shoulders of young donkeys, and their treasures upon the humps of camels to a people [Egypt] that shall not profit them" (Isa. 30:6)?

The following chart shows the US foreign aid to Egypt:

(Millions of Dollars to Egypt)

Year
Economic
Military
Military Education and Training (IMET)
Total

1948-1997
23,288.6
22,353.5
27.3
45,669.4

1998
815.0
1,300.0
1.0
2,116.0

1999
775.0
1,300.0
1.0
2,076.0

2000
727.3
1,300.0
1.0
2,028.3

2001
695.0
1,300.0
1.0
1,996.0

2002
655.0
1,300.0
1.0
1,956.0

2003
911.0
1,300.0
1.2
2,212.2

2004
571.6
1,292.3
1.4
1865.3

2005
530.7
1,289.6
1.2
1,821.5

2006
495.0
1,300.0
1.2
1,796.2

Total
29,464.2
34,035.4
37.3
63,536.9


That total at the bottom is SIXTY-THREE BILLION dollars, or sixty-three thousand million dollars, if you prefer. And for what purpose does such an ungodly amount of US tax-payer’s money go toward? Why, it buys protection for Israel. We pay Egypt to not attack Israel. We "buy" allies. In the same way we also "buy" Pakistan and others. Sixty-three billion dollars will load a lot of camel humps and donkey backs.
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Rupert, WV

#17 Aug 7, 2010
Until the Iraq war, the United States gave more dollars in foreign aid to Egypt than to any other nation on earth, except to guess who? Israel. Israel has received over $100,000,000,000 in US foreign aid, grants, and give-a-ways. Some would put that figure closer to $166 billion.

From: CHRISTIAN SCIENCE MONITOR,(April 12, 2004).

Top recipients of US aid each year

Iraq - In 2004, it will become the largest recipient of US aid, receiving $18.4 billion.

Israel - The largest recipient of US largesse in 2003, getting $2.1 billion in military aid annually; $600 million in economic aid.

Egypt - Out of a US foreign aid budget of about $14 billion in 2003, Egypt was the second largest recipient with $1.3 billion in military aid; $615 million for social programs.


SOURCE: COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS


"Most Egyptian economists and businessmen, however, agree that few positive economic reforms have occurred. "

"Tarek Heggy, the former head of Shell Oil in the Middle East, and a prolific writer on Egyptian society:‘I am not aware of much economic reform.’"

"’US AID has been ineffective at changing economic policy here because CAIRO KNOWS THAT IN THE END IT WILL GET THE US MONEY REGARDLESS OF ITS ECONOMIC POLICY,’ according to Walker, who since leaving the State Department has become head of the Middle East Institute in Washington.‘Egypt remains as anti-investment as it has ever been because WE HAVE NEVER MADE OUR AID PROGRAM CONDITIONAL,’ says Walker." (CAPS are mine)

And what did God say through Isaiah? What did God call Egypt?

"Their strength is to SIT STILL."

Moffett translates it:

"Dragon DO NOTHING,"

Living Bible,

"Reluctant Dragon" (Isa. 30:7).

Washington policy makers wanted to reduce this ungodly excess in Egyptian foreign aid for the coming year, but Colin Powel forcefully persuaded them to continue, as he sees this as essential to the stability in the Middle East. "Stability in the Middle East"—now there’s an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Just kidding: what do I know.

"Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help" (Psalm 146:3).

From "The Middle East Forum Promoting American Interest:"
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Rupert, WV

#18 Aug 7, 2010
Hochstein: "If Egypt is not careful, and it relies solely on U.S. military and economic aid to be the basis of the relationship, there will be no relationship very soon."

How true are Isaiah’s words today:

"…that take counsel, but not of Me; and that make alliances, but AGAINST MY WILL…"

"Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your SHAME, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt YOUR HUMILIATION."

"They were all ashamed of a people that could not profit them, nor be an help nor profit, but a SHAME, and also a REPROACH."

"…to a people that SHALL NOT PROFIT THEM."

"Their strength is to SIT STILL."

You can’t make this stuff up—US foreign policy, straight out of the Bible!



SEPTEMBER 11, 2001

On that fateful autumn day, I turned the TV on some minutes after the first plane hit the North Tower. When I saw the second plane flying at extremely low altitude in the background, I shouted something like, "WHAT IN THE WORLD!" And within a few seconds the second plane disappeared into the South Tower followed by a giant fireball. As I watched in horror, I got on the phone and started calling people from PA to Oregon to tell them to turn on their televisions. This was big. Something huge was happening, and it was on live TV.

I don’t think anyone watching this ever expected to see the Towers fall. What was so amazing was how fast they fell. The South Tower completely collapsed to the ground in 9 seconds. That is only one second slower than free fall. They fell as if there was no resistance whatsoever.

At the time the estimates were erratic, from ten to thirty thousand people were trapped in the towers, but for sure it was a lot of people. Plus all those firefighters. It was more than sobering.



WHY THE TOWERS COLLAPSED

"As the joists on one or two of the most heavily burned floors gave way and the outer box columns BEGAN TO BOW OUTWARD the floors above them also fell. The floor below (with its 1,300 t design capacity) could not support the roughly 45,000 t of ten floors (or more) above crashing down on these angle clips. This started the domino effect that caused the buildings to collapse within ten seconds, hitting bottom with an estimated speed of 200 km per hour." (University of Sidney—World Trade Center, Some Engineering Aspects)
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Rupert, WV

#19 Aug 7, 2010
As the joists on one or two of the most heavily burned floors gave way and the outer box columns began to BOW OUTWARD, the floors above them also fell. From the journal JOM, 53 (12)(2001), pp. 8-11.

"On this assumption he proposed that ‘the joints on the most severely burned floors gave way, causing the perimeter wall columns to BOW OUTWARD and the floors above them to fall.’" Collapse of the World Trade Center From Wikipedia.

"The prolonged effect of high heat is likely to have led to THE BUCKLING OF THE COLUMNS, collapse of the floors, as well as to the shearing of the floors upon the failure of the joints." SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN by Steven Ashley.

"Temperatures soaring from 1,000 to 2,000 degrees caused the steel columns around the tower facades TO BUCKLE. With their supports weakened, the concrete-slab floors plunged." From: ABOUT ARCHITECTURE.

All conspiracy theories aside, the final reason the Towers fell was because the vertical columns of steel could no longer hold the tremendous load above the impact area.

The World Trade Towers were unique in skyscrapers in that they had no internal steel framing as do traditional skyscrapers except for an inner core around the elevators. Totally unlike the Empire State Building, for example. The Towers were held up by two cones of light-weight, extremely strong vertical steel columns. One cone of columns encircled the elevator shafts while the outer ring of 244 vertical perimeter columns made up the exterior walls with the siding and windows attached.

This unique design allowed for many more thousands of square feet of interior office space. And it was a good system. These towers were so strong that they could have held several more times their own weight. But what caused the Towers to fall was the weakening and destruction of several stories of floor joists holding the outer walls perfectly vertical to the inner core. A combination of the plane impacts, explosions, and super-heating of the metals caused the floors to give way. With weakened interior floor joists, the outer walls began to buckle and bow outward, and when that happened the vertical strength became so weakened that the tremendous weight of the floors above started pan-caking on one another; floor after floor.



NO OTHER TOWER OR WALL COLLAPSE FITS ISAIAH’S PROPHECY

Continuing Isaiah’s prophecy:

"Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach [Heb: perets—‘a break, breach, breaking forth, gap’]
ready to fall [Heb: napahl—‘to fall, cast down, cease, die, fail, fall down, be judged, overthrow, overwhelm, perish’]
SWELLING OUT [Heb: baah--Margin,‘bulge’]
in a HIGH wall [Heb: sagab—‘lofty, inaccessible, safe, strong, defend, exalt, excellent, high, to be too strong’]
whose breaking [Heb: sheber--‘fracture, ruin, breach, broken, crashing, destruction’]
comes suddenly at an instant [Heb: petha—‘in a wink, moment, quickly, unexpectedly’]" (Isa. 30:13).
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Rupert, WV

#20 Aug 7, 2010
Now a couple of things to consider:

Some might suggest that this is speaking of a high wall, or maybe a high wall of a tower, or a wall of some fortification, in which the foundation was "breached" or "broken" out, and hence the wall or fortification would fall.

Interestingly, when the Trade Center was bombed in the parking garage back in 1991, which blew a huge crater in the foundation, the tower did not fall; it did not collapse. Yet on 9/11 the breach was high in a high wall, and it did collapse.

I asked my wife what would happen in an ancient wall or stone tower in which some stones would brake out high up in the top of the wall? She said: "I guess the top of the wall or tower would fall off." Exactly! That wouldn’t cause the entire wall to fall down, but only that portion above the breach or breaking out.

If the foundation of a stone wall breaks out or gives way, it doesn’t "fall down," as it is already on the ground. The Hebrew suggests this fall of the wall starts with the "breach" falling, before the actual "wall" falls. Here is the word order from a Hebrew Interlinear:

Kphrtz [as-breach] nphl [one-falling].

Technically it is not "as a breach ready to fall." There is no word for "ready" in the text. Only "kphrtz & nphl" [as-breach one-falling]. So what is it that is actually falling that starts the collapse of this wall? It is the "breach" that is falling. The Concordant Literal Old Testament translates it "a falling breach."

But even if we stay with many translations which say that this is "a breach ready to fall," it’s still THE BREACH which is ready to fall, not the wall. It is the FALLING BREACH which causes the entire wall to collapse. And something cannot fall down unless it is first UP.

God is describing through Isaiah a great and high wall that will collapse because of a "FALLING BREACH" up on the wall. Now then, who has ever heard of a stone wall or tower falling down because some stones came loose or broke out higher UP on the wall. The breach would merely fall down and have virtually no effect on the wall beneath it. Yet with the World Trade Towers, in both cases, it was a breach high up on the walls that brought down the entire Towers. Just as Isaiah prophesied.

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