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#8377 Sep 21, 2012
Frank, I had been searching for information concerning the negotiations between the SSPX and the Vatican. I found this video from Germany posted on September 16th,2012. I feel you may be interested in it, as there has been no information that I have found re the negotiations, and based on what is said in this video from Germany(when you start the video by clicking on the arrow, on the bottom right side,
the last box on the left will give you the captions.
It has direct interpretations, and more in depth explanations of what is transpiring. From what I gather, it appears that the Vatican is willing to accept full integration with the SSPX, based on them accept the continuity of the Vatican Council II changes, which will not be acceptable to the SSPX, as they want a complete usage of the 1962 missal and will not accept the new masses. They also sight the acceptant of the Protestants without any conditions, and yet will not do the same for the SSPX, as the SSPX wants to have dialogue on the Vatican Council II findings. If you are interested(as I am) here is the web:
#8378 Sep 21, 2012
New Mass fulfill the notion of Catholic liturgy?
Jesus Christ, Eternal High Priest
Liturgy in general is ritualized prayer, i.e., the official prayer of a society approved by the authority of that society. In the case of Catholic liturgy, there is the additional fact that it is in some way the prayer of Jesus Christ Himself, the Head of the human race, carried out in union with His mystical members.
As regards the New Mass, the element of approval by authority is certainly present [at least de facto, if not de jure—Ed.] so any doubts regarding its legitimacy must concern something deeper—either some antagonism against the very notion of prayer or some incongruity with its status as the prayer of Christ.
All prayer has a double aspect—a primary, ascending aspect by which the adoration, thanksgiving, petition, and expiation of man is offered to God and a secondary, descending aspect by which the gifts and blessings of God are poured out upon man. Having acknowledged God for Who He is and giving Him the recognition which is unique to Him, Man humbly but confidently expects to receive from God those things which He alone can give.
Jesus Christ, Mediator of Salvation
All Catholic liturgy is unique in the striking sense that it is the prayer of Jesus Christ, Head of the Mystical Body. On the side of Christ, this flows from the fact that Our Lord is the only real mediator of salvation, the only Priest Who ever offered a worship worthy of God. On the side of His members, this flows from the reality of our incorporation into Christ and our participation in His Priesthood (either active or passive) achieved through the reception of indelible sacramental characters. What then can be said of a rite of Mass which, through its ecumenical orientation, implicitly denies the unique mediation of Christ? Or which obscures the essentially sacrificial aspect of that mediation?
Or which implicitly denies the hierarchy among the sacramental characters by which the members of Christ participate in and benefit from this mediation? Such a liturgy is untrue to itself. It denies its own nature and lies about its own identity. Objectively, it is an insult to the Son considered as Incarnate God.
#8380 Sep 21, 2012
I see you don't liked being "schooled by the ladies". Anthony. Cursing?? How original! Don't be a tool every day of your pathetic life,
#8381 Sep 21, 2012
thanks--I got it
#8382 Sep 21, 2012
he's a useful idiot-- such foolish behavior for a grown man. He has become the star of his own reality show,
Hmmm--- anyone out there have a good name for his show??
See you Sunday Anthony! I'll have my cell charged and ready to take some candid shots of you
#8383 Sep 23, 2012
Lou, Bruser,WHG, Toni and Flawed System:
Today Anthony the EM was on the altar patting the pastor's Back and "chuckling" while preparing for communion. Inappropriate behavior once again!
He positioned himself in the vestibule after Mass,opposite his Guru and man-crush bedecked in his white robe, knowing full well that he would not be confronted,.
What a coward!
Last week he hid behind his wife's skirt-- this week behind his puppy-love interest.
But all is not lost! Got some great candid shots, including the "pat on the back" with the iPhone
Lou-- I'll send them off to you.
#8386 Sep 25, 2012
"Today bring to Me the Souls of those who have separated themselves from My Church*,
and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy. During My bitter Passion they tore at My Body and Heart, that is, My Church. As they return to unity with the Church My wounds heal and in this way they alleviate My Passion."
Most Merciful Jesus, Goodness Itself, You do not refuse light to those who seek it of You. Receive into the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Church. Draw them by Your light into the unity of the Church, and do not let them escape from the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart; but bring it about that they, too, come to glorify the generosity of Your mercy.
Eternal Father, turn Your merciful gaze upon the souls of those who have separated themselves from Your Son's Church, who have squandered Your blessings and misused Your graces by obstinately persisting in their errors. Do not look upon their errors, but upon the love of Your own Son and upon His bitter Passion, which He underwent for their sake, since they, too, are enclosed in His Most Compassionate Heart. Bring it about that they also may glorify Your great mercy for endless ages. Amen.
*Our Lord's original words here were "heretics and schismatics,"
Read more: http://www.ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/novena....
#8387 Sep 25, 2012
Got the pictures you took Frank. Great shots, especially the one of Anthony the EM patting Msgr Jim on the back on the altar! I sent them to Toni Pom Pom to post on her Facebook wall so people can see who they've been praying for. Nice camera work Frank!
#8388 Sep 25, 2012
Anthony must have put himself in self exile. I would too if I acted like a bafoon on the altar.
He must learn that respect and and reverence are integral to the Mass,.
What does he think'he is doing up there??? Acting like the pastors' side-kick?
This ain"t the smothers' brother's
Anthony! Control yourself ! Pictures don't lie--
#8393 Sep 27, 2012
No Anthony -- and it's Thursday. Could he have possibly "seen the light" and had a conversion back to his catholic faith?? Have the prayers from Toni and her huge prayer chain taken effect?
We can only hope. I wish him well and hope he has the courage to cease and desist from his sad and destructive behaviors.
God Bless you Anthony as you heal and move forward to the man you yearn to be
#8394 Sep 27, 2012
He is not scheduled to be at mass this weekend, may be on vacation.
His loathing of the Catholic Church is very deep, and from what he has said recently about not accepting the Catholic Church's teachings it will take our Lord to awaken him out of his Liberal
stupor. We must also remember to pray for his mentor, whomever that may be, as the apple does not fall far from the tree!!!
#8395 Sep 27, 2012
#8396 Sep 27, 2012
his son may be getting married this weekend. I pray he controls himself and enjoys the wedding
#8397 Sep 27, 2012
I just watched this in horror!
Blessed Mother help Us!!
Thanks for you Bruser for posting Michael's videos. I send them to all my true catholic friends
This is truly horrifying!
#8399 Sep 28, 2012
Folks, I would urge everyone to go and see the new movie 2016 before the election. It will show you what Obama is really about and what he is planning to do. My son told me about it.I will surely go see the movie, my son said they were jeering and yelling at the screen when he went. I do believe it is part of his plan to make us a Socialistic country by playing the race card, and the Rich VS the not so rich. The liberal media is more to blame than the fox that got into the hen house. The fox will do what they is normal for them to do, but the Media left the gate to the hen house open. They were probably always that way, but hid their true agenda, and with the Socialist in the White House they do not have to hide it any more, and "Came out of the closet".
Remember, Catholic Italy is more of a Socialistic Government, and is run more by the Unions than anything else. How did this happen?
They went from Fascists to Socialists. They also used Jesus' love and forgiveness in an evil way, just as the Catholics who voted for Obama did, believing all of his lies that hid his true agenda.
Can you imagine what another 4 years will bring? We will be so deep in debt, that nothing will get us out, and using the race card and the unions, and probably mandate the curfews and military rule, which he is already to sign as soon as he can create a large enough crisis. He may do that when he loses the presidency, and refuse to turn over the reins. The American people have been asleep and blinded by his falseness and lies, and didn't pay attention to what was going on. Do you believe that a republican
Attorney General would have gotten away from anything that Eric Holder has done, and failed to do?
There is so much to get down on about what is happening to our country and our Catholic religion. There is not much we can do about our religious leaders but pray to our Lord, and ask St Michael to defend us in our battle. As far as our Country, we must get involved as much as we can to assure the Defeat of Obama.
Remember what was said in 1944 by Norman Matoon Thomas:
Norman Thomas Mattoon In his 1944 speech said:
The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism.
But, under the name of "Liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation,without knowing how it happened"
He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party.
The Democrat Party has adopted our platform!!!!
The Prediction Of Norman Mattoon Thomas has Coming True.
Today, even the most socialist Dems will still deny that their policies and the policies of Barack Obama are socialist.
Thomas was right. We Americans will never “knowingly” adopt socialism. Wake up America and save our country, for our children,
and Grand-children. Get Involved now, tomorrow may be too late to save the America we know and love.
#8400 Sep 28, 2012
Ctn on my last post should have read:
"the fox will do what is normal for them to do"
#8401 Sep 28, 2012
I pray, and hope that he has seen the light and has decided to change his ways. Maybe it was the re-dedication of the EMs last week, when Msgr. Jim said that they should take the role seriously, or when Msgr. Jim spoke about those people who can't stand to see or hear the good. These people have to constantly be obnoxious and rage against those who even pray. Msgr. Jim gave the example of the vile cursing that the Pro-Choice protesters were directing at John Cardinal O'Conner. Just because he was praying. And just because he was defending the innocent, the unborn. Msgr. Jim said he never heard such vile and profane language. Maybe some of that resonated with Anthony the EM, the rage and the cursing.
Hopefully it has and he's on the path to peace. If so, his family must be very grateful. I did see the pictures of him on Toni Pom Pom's Facebook, including the one of him patting Msgr. Jim on the back on the altar during Mass. Hoping he sees the light about that too, and his behavior will change with Msgr. Jim as well. His focus can then be on his lovely wife and children.
#8402 Sep 28, 2012
WHG-- yes, what you posted is almost verbatim of the homily
Ast week. Have a veelinf that theastor is aware of Anthony's behaviors and. Hose to address it at the re dedication , knowing Anthony would be "front and center."
The glad -handing pat on the back to the pastor was inappropriate as well as amaturish,
It is becoming."our Lady of Lunatics"
The posting of his pictures on Facebook have ushered in many comments concerning Anthony. I believe Anthony is ashamed of his behaviors and is doing some soul searching.
Toni tells me she forwarded the pictures along with a letter to the Pastor
#8403 Sep 28, 2012
Bruser. Both Lou and I along with the wives, saw the movie. Outstanding research done by Dinesh
I feel hopeful in the American people. Keep praying to our blessed Lady
#8404 Sep 29, 2012
All positive actions, with the hope of saving our brothers soul.
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