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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#318 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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You lot = the Unionists = the loyalists
They were unable to administer Norther Ireland, and Westminster took that power away.
So now NI has its own parliament, why are the killings still happening? Perhaps they can't control NI either.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#319 Nov 21, 2012
mick rock wrote:
<quoted text>Your becoming more bitter by the second you idiot !
That's Ronan for you.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#320 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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It's an ongoing conflict, in which each side use what's available.
Gaza has f*ck all to protect its population, and to an extent, don't care. Civilian casualties and a heavy toll are good for publicity and propaganda.
Therefore why attack Israel if Hamas know their own innocents are going to pay for their actions? They don't care!
rio

Bromley, UK

#321 Nov 21, 2012
Krypteia wrote:
<quoted text>We all see this from different angles and attitudes,i see it where Jews have been shat on for so long by different people they won't take no more crap.
I see Israel as their ancestral homeland it was Jewish long before the muzz were invented and the muzz have a cheek mot to reconise Israel.
I'm not saying Israel have been choir boys but the Palestinians arn't angels.
It's pointless argueing the toss because we both see it differently.
I think that the idea of 2 nations living side-by-side in 2 different countries is gaining ground in many circles, and I think that's a good solution.
Jews and Palestinians should have the right to live in Israel and Palestine, respectively.
But, it's the implementation of this scheme that doesn't work and which is the stumbling block for at least 20 years.
Both sides (Palestinians and Jews) have their own right wing, that wants more.
The Jewish expansion on the West Bank, against previous undertakings, has been seen as an obstacle for peace. Also, Israel has decided to recognise only the moderate wing of the PLO (Fatah), and not the extremist one (Hamas)- thus dividing the opposition, so to say.
Hamas has attracted Iranian influence in the region, and as anyone knows, this regine wowed to destroy Israel! Not a good start...
As anyone know, you have to negociate with your enemy to get peace, and not those who already agree with you.
Both sides are at fault. There is bad faith and bitterness.

I wouldn't like one side winning at the expense of the other, but peace winning and ensuring security and dignity for Jews and Arabs.
Allymac

Glasgow, UK

#323 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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So your not going to condemn the Loyalist slaughter of 33 civilians (pregnant women, babies, kids etc) on that day in 1974?
Scum of the earth.....
So,if Loyalists kill people it's wrong,but if republicans kill it's OK?Remember Bloody Friday...Whitecross...Shankill ...La Mon...Abercorn...Omagh....Enni skillen...Claudy...Teebane.... the list of irish republican atrocities is endless.You talk of collusion....how's the Smithwick inquiry coming along?I have no problem condemning ALL terrorists,but you only want to mention one side.
rio

Bromley, UK

#324 Nov 21, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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What happens when Israelis withdraw? Oh that's right, Hamas attacks Israel.
The reason Hamas fires missiles is because Iran supplies them the missiles and Muslims hate Jews.
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So why don't all the arab nations rise up against Israel and wipe the nation from the face of the earth? What's holding them back?
Do arabs think Palestininans are not worthy perhaps?
Hamas isn't in a position of launching a military attack on Israel. Within a few days, it would have exhausted its stockpiles of rockets, and Israel could cruch Gaza easily. Yes, the Iranian missiles delivered to hamas did put a new perspective on the conflict. Iran is the arch enemy of Israel.

Other Arab nations don't have conflict with Israel anymore. The solidarity among Arab countries doesn't work anymore; that's why Hamas went to Iran for weapons.
Most Arabs are Sunni Muslims, and Iranians are Shiate Muslims. Sunni Palestinians allying with Shiates Iranians was seen with dismay in many Arab countyries; that's why they ignore this conflict.
rio

Bromley, UK

#325 Nov 21, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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So now NI has its own parliament, why are the killings still happening? Perhaps they can't control NI either.
Very few killings occur nowadays, compared to the time when the paramilitaries on BOTH sides were in action.
You can't stop rogue elements, and there will always be people against peace.
But the situation is much better, don't you think?
rio

Bromley, UK

#326 Nov 21, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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Therefore why attack Israel if Hamas know their own innocents are going to pay for their actions? They don't care!
For propaganda purpose?
The idea of martyrdom (unknown in the West) is very powerful in the Arab world.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#327 Nov 21, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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you think Israel is wrong to defend itself?
you attempted to justify the targeting of innocent Israeli civilians by Palestinian terrorists by saying
"As for the bus bomb today I condemn it. Although if someone killed your kids shooting from an airstrike what would you do about it? Say ''oh no its not their fault''? Also if someone killed your kids in an airstrike would you not want to fight back?"(to condemn then to qualify it with a "although" says it all)
newsflash putting a bomb on a civilian bus is not "fighting" it is murder.
i CAN understand why you think Palestinian terrorist should be allowed to murder Israelis at will,you despise Jews,even Jewish children isn't that right? you racist ante-semite scumbag.
No Israel has every right to defend itself. However I disagree with the mass slaughter of women and kids.

I condemned the bus bombing. You have yet to condemn the killing of Palestinian children by the Israeli's. When are you going to do that?

Also before all of this escalated a week ago, the Israeli's shot a 13 year old Palestinian boy dead on the 9th of November. What was all that about?

I think that the killing of Israeli civilians is wrong too. Just as bad as the killing of Palestinian civilians. Israel have killed far more civilians than the Palestinians in the past week. And thats a fact.

Is the killing of Palestinian children right or wrong in your opinion?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#328 Nov 21, 2012
mick rock wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying i am scum of the earth or the perpetrators ?
Why can't you condemn a single Loyalist atrocity?

33 civilians dead in a day, and you don't feel the need to condemn it?

Was it justified then, in your opinion?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#329 Nov 21, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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oh dear no need to get all teary and emotional,is there.
you mention the "Miami show band" murders in your argument and get upset when i used it to show the difference between the terrorist scum you support and the British Army,if you are dumb enough to use facts that you have not totally checked out ,that's you problem
you have a sixth form gobshites view of the world.
you waste your time with your insults,an insult of a terrorist supporting scumbag like yourself is no insult.
keep the flag fying,scumbag
There have been many innocent civilians shot dead by British soldiers in Northern Ireland. Some of them women and children. And no prosecutions have been brought in many of the cases. Yet you said British soldiers who murder, always get prosecuted? Wrong on that one weren't you.

I have the facts to back up what I'm saying. Your wrong. And I can prove it if you need?

Many Catholics in Northern Ireland were interned/imprisoned without trial, many of them were innocent and weren't even paramilitaries. Yet some British soldiers who shot kids were never prosecuted and never set foot inside a prison cell. Thats the difference is it Mike?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#330 Nov 21, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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You don't get it do you.
Hamas stops firing, Muslim countries stop calling for the obliteration of the Jews, everyone lives happily ever after.
Islam hates Jews, therefre Israel will be attacked time and again, Israel will retaliate time and again.
Doesn't make it right, but Israel has the right to strike back.
I know that Hamas has extremist views with regards to Israel. Still though, Israel aren't doing themselves any favours by killing so many civilians.

Just because of Hamas' views, Israel had no right no punish the entire Gaza Strip with a blockade for the past 4 years. Is every person in the Gaza Strip a Hamas member or supporter? I think not.....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#331 Nov 21, 2012
Allymac wrote:
<quoted text>So,if Loyalists kill people it's wrong,but if republicans kill it's OK?Remember Bloody Friday...Whitecross...Shankill ...La Mon...Abercorn...Omagh....Enni skillen...Claudy...Teebane.... the list of irish republican atrocities is endless.You talk of collusion....how's the Smithwick inquiry coming along?I have no problem condemning ALL terrorists,but you only want to mention one side.
And the list of Loyalist atrocities is also endless.

I condemn any atrocity where civilians were killed. No matter who carried it out. I condemn it.....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#332 Nov 21, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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Well, supply a link or two so I can read the story then.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/08/world/meast...

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#333 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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No Israel has every right to defend itself. However I disagree with the mass slaughter of women and kids.
I condemned the bus bombing. You have yet to condemn the killing of Palestinian children by the Israeli's. When are you going to do that?
Also before all of this escalated a week ago, the Israeli's shot a 13 year old Palestinian boy dead on the 9th of November. What was all that about?
I think that the killing of Israeli civilians is wrong too. Just as bad as the killing of Palestinian civilians. Israel have killed far more civilians than the Palestinians in the past week. And thats a fact.
Is the killing of Palestinian children right or wrong in your opinion?
the killing of ANY child is wrong.positioning rockets in civilian areas knowing full well they will attract incoming fire is wrong too.yet that is exactly what the scum of Hamas do.

why not try a bit of honesty for a change and answer this question.
how many dead Israelis would there be if Hamas had the superior fire power that the Israelis posses?

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#334 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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But the situation is much better, don't you think?
Far better, yes.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#335 Nov 21, 2012
rio wrote:
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For propaganda purpose?
The idea of martyrdom (unknown in the West) is very powerful in the Arab world.
How many babies children want to willingly die martyrs though? A martyr should be willing to die for a cause, not slaughtered like a lamb.

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#336 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
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I know that Hamas has extremist views with regards to Israel. Still though, Israel aren't doing themselves any favours by killing so many civilians.
Just because of Hamas' views, Israel had no right no punish the entire Gaza Strip with a blockade for the past 4 years. Is every person in the Gaza Strip a Hamas member or supporter? I think not.....
Hamas is the problem.

There are undoubtedly many citizens that are suffering needlessly. Hamas is making them suffer.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#337 Nov 21, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
Whoever targetted the lad is in the wrong, undoubtedly.
american levi

United States

#338 Nov 21, 2012
I can read wrote:
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By the same token:
Where were all the protests from American christians while christian terrorists kept killing innocents in Northern Ireland?
Nope, America didn't protest the terrorism, they just funded it.
I cannot answer that, I think I wasnt born or was too young, I d ont know enough about that to answer.

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