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Cities write 'sustainability' into public policy - but what doe...

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Webster's might not yet offer a separate definition for the word "sustainability," but as one city government after another issues new environmental policies, it's bound to show up soon.

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Does this mean I was suppossed to a hire a lefty "progressive" consultant to tell me to replace my 25 year old furnace with a high-efficency one? I just did it without getting this the "permission" of a constly lefty "progressive" consultant! I researched brands on the internet.
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Does this mean you've become a "lefty"?
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Definition:'sustainability'

a fad in 2009 that rationalizes doling out public funds to leftist organizations for no useful public purpose.
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The sustainability plans are not worth the paper they are printed on.
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Just anther buzz word and more B.S.!
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It means you think the UN is the cat's meow, Gorebull warming is killing us all,SUVs are evil, and central planning bureacrats who want to make this Europe are our saviors.

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"said Anne Hunt, St. Paul's sustainability coordinator. "The mayor's trying to get all departments to think holistically.""

You know your city is a declining s@#$hole if...

You can't plow your streets, but you have the cash for a "sustainability coordinator."
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Sustainablility means you solved all the problems in your city and you have so much money you can hire the politically correct "vultures" to come in an "facilitate" endless numbers of meetings and then write a large document than no one will ever read.......

The vultures will happily take a check or perhaps and installment plan will be suit the taxpayers.

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Pathetic.
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This is another touching story of hope. "Sustainability," for all of you ignorant Earth-destroyers, means getting rid of Republican city council members and replacing them with caring, sensitive people who actually don't want to destroy Earth. We need new policies of recycling, garbage pick-up, and bans on gas-powered tools such as lawnmowers and leafblowers. They can easily be replaced with electronic versions of the same thing. We also need to have higher taxes for people who think they "need" to drive SUVs. They are destroying our cities and causing global warming through their selfish decisions. I envision a wonderful world when we start implementing these policies!
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“Green” investments are the new dot-com bubble, funded with “stimulus” money.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10158505-38...



One of Obama’s appointees, Doerr, has argued in favor of a massive diversion of taxpayer dollars to green tech. In March 2007, Doerr gave a speech at the TED conference approvingly citing Al Gore’s views on global warming. "I’m really scared—I don’t think we’re going to make it," Doerr said. "There is a time when panic is the appropriate response. And we’ve reached that time."

Three years ago, Kleiner Perkins created a $100 million green tech fund, which has invested in technologies including solar cells, fuel cells, smart grid, ethanol, and synthetic fuels. Not-so-coincidentally, Doerr has lobbied for laws at the state level—and, more recently, as part of the "stimulus" proposal—that would benefit his portfolio by moving toward smart grid, solar, and other technology.

great...more money down the rathole.
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Get a Grip wrote:
Sustainablility means you solved all the problems in your city and you have so much money you can hire the politically correct "vultures" to come in an "facilitate" endless numbers of meetings and then write a large document than no one will ever read.......
The vultures will happily take a check or perhaps and installment plan will be suit the taxpayers.
Going green was a feel -good thing. A luxury for liberal envirowackos. Companies started green initiatives to make their employees feel like they were being good people. Now those employees just want to stay employed.

In a recession/depression you don't do luxuries. The cheapest solution to the problem is the only option. Coal, nuclear and even gas (which is hardly a paragon of efficiency) are all cheaper ways to get electrical power than solar and wind.
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Owl Gore wrote:
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Going green was a feel -good thing. A luxury for liberal envirowackos. Companies started green initiatives to make their employees feel like they were being good people. Now those employees just want to stay employed.
In a recession/depression you don't do luxuries. The cheapest solution to the problem is the only option. Coal, nuclear and even gas (which is hardly a paragon of efficiency) are all cheaper ways to get electrical power than solar and wind.
I missed the punchline?? Please tell us you're kidding, right? Surely you can't really be this ignorant and insensitive on purpose?
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Mrs R wrote:
"Sustainability," for all of you ignorant Earth-destroyers, means getting rid of Republican city council members ...
There aren't any city council members in Saint Paul.
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Err... I meant REPUBLICAN ....
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It's a good thing that the missus is hot....
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I have a message for the "sustainability coordinator" and his/her bosses: Continual tax increases are not sustainable. Generous welfare benefits are not sustainable.

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Dang wrote: "Does this mean you've become a "lefty"?"

Absolutely not! I have always been a "cheapie". With the new 95-98% effieciency my largest winter heating bill was $120 this year. Also, without the help of a lefty consultant I bought a 4 cyclider stick Ford Ranger a couple of years back. Cheap enough on gas so I can fire it up when ever I want.

Also, without the help of a lefty conseltant I bought my house clsoe to work and everything. At peak I drove 6K per year, now down below 4K. Those motor vehicles are a lot more relieable when are not wracking up the miles. Heck, last summer when gas was $4 per gallon I went five weeks on a tank of gas without the help of a lefty consultant.
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Definition:'sustainability'

The EXACT opposite of what we hope Chris Coleman has.
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Ack wrote:
I have a message for the "sustainability coordinator" and his/her bosses: Continual tax increases are not sustainable. Generous welfare benefits are not sustainable.
AND: many of the "Stimulouse" provisions turn into unfunded mandates a few years in, but the states have to take that condition WITH the money!
Can you say "Federally Forced Unfunded Mandates from the Messiah?'
NO?!
Well, can you say, "More State taxes" to fund these??!!
Better get ready to do so, all you smart Oby-sheep!
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