Walnutport man who beat dad for flushing pot gets prison

A Walnutport man who attacked his father after he flushed the son's marijuana down the toilet was sentenced Friday to up to eight years in state prison. Full Story
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Kooper

United States

#1 Dec 20, 2008
OUY....see what happens when you start medicating people...
John

Whitehall, PA

#2 Dec 20, 2008
White Trash

Since: Feb 07

Lehighton, PA

#5 Dec 20, 2008
Kooper wrote:
OUY....see what happens when you start medicating people...
The "kid" was self-medicating with illegal drugs. Who knows what else he was on!
Kudos to the Dad for letting his son deal with the results of his behavior.
Strohl-Grimes

Slatington, PA

#6 Dec 20, 2008
First off I know this kid for 16 years and the acqusations are outragous! Things were pushed way too far. Josh is a compassionate, smart, do anything for you type of guy. When my younger brother, his best firend, passed away last year he was there for me and my family which is a lot more then I can say for some others. He is like my own flesh and blood and I love him dearly. He might have some mental issues but please who doesn't? He was never able to deal with the death of his best friend / "brother" from the following year which I'm sure helped with his mental state. I am not trying to make excuses for what he has done because he should pay for his actions but what he got is unjustly. He is not a threat and never has been. What happened that night was not totally explained in this article. There was WAY more going on the what was said. I will not go into that beacuse it is personal but things happened for a reason. I love you Josh and please hang in there. You are my brother and I will be there for you forever.
Michael

Allentown, PA

#7 Dec 20, 2008
Wow with a testimonial like that I'd have given him twelve years.
Lisa G

Slatington, PA

#8 Dec 20, 2008
This is what people still don't understand. Drugs are ruining your lives. You are hooked on these drugs and you would kill or harm anyone that gets in the way of you having your drugs. Maybe jail and rehab will turn your life around,then you will rethink what you did in your life,and how you got to where you are today.

Since: Oct 08

Bethlehem, PA

#9 Dec 20, 2008
Kudos for the Judge. The system really does work sometimes. I hope this kid learns a lesson and comes out and be a good person. With a little help and some meds. maybe he will learn to control his emotions. We don't care about the testimional, because he did something wrong, and has to pay the price.
Lisa G

Slatington, PA

#10 Dec 20, 2008
To Strohl- Grimes, You do a crime like that,there is help out there. Youre acting like its the fathers fault! Get real here. Who beat his dad?Don't matter how much you may think that you know someone,but behind closed doors,you actually don't!!!!
Now you want to get technical?Sfter my fiancee died this so called friend was always there to help me out to,til one day he was accused of raping his own daughter and also the children of my fiancee. So do you reeally know this person? I'd say NOT!!!
Bush America

Blakeslee, PA

#11 Dec 20, 2008
Nice try on the "mental issues" defense. Time to take responsibility for your actions, punk.

Oh, and to the poster above, Strohl-Grimes -- "he is not a threat and never has been"? Did you read the part about how he beat and choked his father until he passed out? While it is true that neither you nor I were there that night, the injuries that his father suffered didn't happen by accident. Broken ribs, choked until he passed out -- how do you think that happened? If you know otherwise, you should have testified in court.
Albert E Stein

AOL

#12 Dec 20, 2008
Strhol-Grimes you need to wake up. Everybody deals with adversity. That's a part of life. Not everybody uses illegal drugs, nor does everyone inflict harm on their own parent. Obviously your pal and his attorney were not able to justify his crime. He has no business on the streets.
ingrid

Slatington, PA

#14 Dec 20, 2008
flushing pot is a pretty heinous offense. he got off easy.
Brian

Schnecksville, PA

#15 Dec 20, 2008
As a victim of a mentally ill person the options left to a judge are never easy. Back in the early 1980's Ronald Reagans trickle down economics Policies forced a large majority of State run Mental Institutions to close their doors. This opened the flood gates for the severely mentally disabled to be released on society. The Situation now is a Dire one. On the One Hand You have Psychiatrists Telling legislators that they are capable of treating patients in an out patient setting. So what happens is they Prescribe Incredibly powerful medications that not 20 years ago legally required hospitalazation. Nothings changed in the therapies given to these patients just the power of the Drugs administered. What the Mental health community fails to tell everyone is that they have no clue how the Meds are going to work on any one individual . They have to rely on the patients who are menatlly ill! Does this make any sense to any of you? You have countless individuals walking the streets that should not be. You have Psychiatrists that are not willing to give up an incredibly lucrative practice by speaking up and telling the powers that be that this type of treatment is not working. Ironically when an individual does something horrendous to the community they bring in a psychiatrist who testifies for the state that the individual is not Insane (better than half the time). Are you kidding me? These Psychiatrists all have private practices and they essentially tell all their patients they are unstable in some way so they drug them till they can't function then set them loose on the streets. They will all say that i am the crazy one for thinking like that but in the end i am minus two parents and one brother. They all died the same day and my siblings and i are left to pick up the pieces. One of my brothers former doctors is a witness (Highly Paid) for the state when the insanity defense is used. Of most of the cases he's involved in, the patient is most always found to be Sane. Interesting. I wonder what he would say if he had to testify as to the sanity of my Brother. My Sympathies go out to the judge and the family in this case. unfortunately this will continue to be a problem. Those medicines need to be controlled as well as the patients taking them. Their rights need to be curbed until they prove they will not be a burden on society. OH one more thing. The average time it takes for a Psychiatrist to make an Arbitrary Diagnosis On a patient who comes in their Office is 10 - 15 minutes! The Drugs are dispensed that day. Some are Samples given right in the office.
Mikki Tenj _P4 Party

Greendell, NJ

#16 Dec 20, 2008
I'm not saying the attack was right but the father is a twat and should respect a fellow adult. Langley , age 23, mentally ill or not... is an adult. If the father doesn't want the plant in the house, fine. Destroying another persons property is still wrong.

Drugs in general: does the dr. shoot you for not exercising enough? Then who are police to brandish weapons and taze you when your own risk is at question? Doesn't seem that public health is really the topic at all , just enforceable taxation. Tell me the day police will arrest God for grande scale cultivation. Case closed.
yep

Spring Mount, PA

#17 Dec 20, 2008
WTT BACKS RUIN A CITY wrote:
<quoted text>is it ok if i get high and mental, and bang you up your butt, and choak you at the same time...so you can PITY ME too?
please contact me if this turns you on (and it probably does).
a photo of you gets mine in return.
Defenitly a repressed homosexual. Please get help and stop transfering your hate for yourself onto others. D-bag
carelessfills

United States

#18 Dec 20, 2008
Releasing the mentally ill had nothing to do with Ronald Reagan - the movement started long before then and was fascilitated greatly by Geraldo Rivera's reporting about Willowbrook 'school' in Staten Island in the early 70's where he made his name as was a reporter on channel 7 WABC. There's no doubt that he uncovered abuses there and the place was closed.

that followed by "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" and the cat was out of the bag. Do gooder's then decided that it was a civil right's violation to keep people locked up against their wills (and to some extent I agree), but the pendulum swung too far the other way toward releasing people to society who couldn't deal with it.

Funding is always an issue, under all presidents, Congresses, and states, but it's silly to single out Reagan unless you need to create a bogeyman. Indeed, throughout Reagan's administration, Congress, where the real power lies, was controlled by the Democrats, except for two years in the Senate.
Brian wrote:
As a victim of a mentally ill person the options left to a judge are never easy. Back in the early 1980's Ronald Reagans trickle down economics Policies forced a large majority of State run Mental Institutions to close their doors. This opened the flood gates for the severely mentally disabled to be released on society.
Mikki Tenj _P4 Party

Greendell, NJ

#20 Dec 20, 2008
Lisa G wrote:
To Strohl- Grimes, You do a crime like that,there is help out there. Youre acting like its the fathers fault! Get real here. Who beat his dad?Don't matter how much you may think that you know someone,but behind closed doors,you actually don't!!!!
Now you want to get technical?Sfter my fiancee died this so called friend was always there to help me out to,til one day he was accused of raping his own daughter and also the children of my fiancee. So do you reeally know this person? I'd say NOT!!!
Bringing up incestual rape has nothing to do with this topic at all.
Lisa , do you blame King of the Hill for Alchoholism? Yet , all these guys represent the very people sitting outside sucking down drunkeness. Drug is a drug.Prohibition leads to murder.. thats the only thing it prevents is sanity.

THe paper really shouldn't even talk about schizophrenia either. How convenient and ageist to blame the youth. using 'illegal' drugs is no different than any other legal drug like alcohol. frequency will lead to addiction. Heroin is far more addictive so you wont see me saying " it should be legal" but its not stopping your little tykes from trying it anyway.

Legality has nothing to do with safety just like parenting.. in this case , has nothing to do with good communication. Flushing anything personal is humiliating and invalidating. Kicking the guy out of the house has more credibility. Its clear the 'suspect' s parent has no clue how to deal with his son. If you took my buds I 'd be pissed all on its own. Rationaalizing anger for a schizophrenic even more clearly unconcerned for his own families feelings.Genetics and schizophrenia might be a big part of the reason the attack occured... previous blame.

Maybe I need to remind baby boomers and previous generations; Where did the work sponsored health care, the social security , and the job stability go? In case you haven't noticed , the "live for today generations" haven't left much of an american dream. Foreign labor doesn't make domestic livelihood.
Just Upset

Allentown, PA

#21 Dec 20, 2008
Mikki Tenj _P4 Party wrote:
I'm not saying the attack was right but the father is a **** and should respect a fellow adult. Langley , age 23, mentally ill or not... is an adult. If the father doesn't want the plant in the house, fine. Destroying another persons property is still wrong.
Drugs in general: does the dr. shoot you for not exercising enough? Then who are police to brandish weapons and taze you when your own risk is at question? Doesn't seem that public health is really the topic at all , just enforceable taxation. Tell me the day police will arrest God for grande scale cultivation. Case closed.
your comment is wrong on so many levels.

“rockin pandas”

Since: Mar 07

Whitehall

#22 Dec 20, 2008
Man if he was a cop he would have got ARD again
Just Upset

Allentown, PA

#23 Dec 20, 2008
Kooper wrote:
OUY....see what happens when you start medicating people...
If he really did have bipolar d/o or schizophrenia, he needs medication to keep his chemical imbalance in his brain balanced. He went off if he wasn't taking his prescribed meds and using another substance.
Mikki Tenj _P4 Party

Greendell, NJ

#26 Dec 20, 2008
I want the fact to be very clear that while there might be a certain population of adults that are against any drug use but alcohol; Cops pointing guns at other types of drug users won't stop them from using. THere are 15,699 Judges hired in this nation and 25 Million stoners in this nation.
Whats to judge? theres not enough judges or politicians that really understand that the society isn't just drinkers. Its pulling families apart. Drugs have been blamed for that too, no doubt , but not all beer drinkers are DUI drivers. The fact of good behaviour as a majority of users isn't just because the drug is 'legal'.I accept my vice so I accept my addiction also.

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