What is wrong with Vallejo?

What is wrong with Vallejo?

There are 113 comments on the Vallejo Times-Herald story from Aug 6, 2009, titled What is wrong with Vallejo?. In it, Vallejo Times-Herald reports that:

I have lived in Vallejo and worked in Concord for 25 years. When I read the latest "Concord City News" quarterly news letter I begin to wonder what makes the difference between these two cities.

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LMc

Vallejo, CA

#1 Aug 6, 2009
The schools are better for one. Having a good education plays a big part.
gun metal blue

Vallejo, CA

#2 Aug 6, 2009
well Tom, your list is one reason vallejo is failling. vallejo has no such list. vallejo refuses to stop binding abertration, fails to work to get in new businesses, has a mayor and city council that for years has had a i run this city and refuse to listen to the people. the mayor and city council refuse to lead, follow and stubornly stand in the way. bought and paid for........
Up Valley Getto

Vacaville, CA

#3 Aug 6, 2009
Tom, Tom Tom,
Concord is not buzy giving away itself to every social program in the book. It does not pay it's public employees as much as Vallejo, it does not pander to poor people, it has a decent school system, and does not encourage parolee and other group homes to reside in it's city.

Got the picture? Since the closing of Mare Island, Vallejo has replaced the flow of money, with a new flow of money called SOCIALISM, we are pimping the poor my friend, and guess what, THE ROOSTER HAS COME HOME TO ROOST.
Antonio Henderson

San Jose, CA

#4 Aug 6, 2009
Whats wrong with vallejo? TO MANY LOW ACHEIVERS. To many people who just dont want to be better, and just dont care that their sleezyness and low life attitude is a large part of the reason that this incredible area with all its wonderful potential is the arm pit of the Bay Area, when it could be one of the Crown Jewels of the Bay Area. The solution clearly is for Vallejo to be invaded by high quality people from around the bay who have the intelligence to see its potential and the desire and will to transform it. When the high quality people who already live here seek and make alliances with qualified outsiders to relocate here and help to limit; to a managable degree the precentage of low life types that will be allowed to live in this city, the city will be transformed.
Silas Barnabe

Vallejo, CA

#5 Aug 6, 2009
Up Valley Getto wrote:
Tom, Tom Tom,
Concord is not buzy giving away itself to every social program in the book. It does not pay it's public employees as much as Vallejo, it does not pander to poor people, it has a decent school system, and does not encourage parolee and other group homes to reside in it's city.
Got the picture? Since the closing of Mare Island, Vallejo has replaced the flow of money, with a new flow of money called SOCIALISM, we are pimping the poor my friend, and guess what, THE ROOSTER HAS COME HOME TO ROOST.
You poor soul, wasn't Mare Island also funded by the tax payers?
Shay58

San Francisco, CA

#7 Aug 6, 2009
Vallejo City Leaders just don't care. Remember it all starts at the top.

Vallejo has had many oportunities to bring in big business, but Vallejo always seems to screw it up.

You have a city council member Stiffy Gomes, who is anti development. She was a part of the "coalition against the 1 billion dollar waterfront project" that would have built an arts center, hotel, many restaurants and stores all along the water front, but Gomes successfully rid the project. This is one of many problems in Vallejo.

Mare Island should have been built out by now with major business. Until we get leaders in City council that know what they are doing, Vallejo will continue to be known as "Ghetto city north"

Until then, Contra Costa is the place to live and shop
john

Vacaville, CA

#8 Aug 6, 2009
what's wrong? the city workforce are treated as partners NOT scapegoats, the cops there don't EXPECT crime, more homeowners to renters, a school sup. that does not steal from it's schools, fewer churches, more than TWO code enforcement officers, a family structure for kids, a mayor that does not wear a $10 suit in a $2 town. then again, if things did change, were would Concord put it's garbage?
Barnebus Collins

Vacaville, CA

#9 Aug 6, 2009
Silas ,Building a strong military and keeping poor people poor at tax payers expense BIG DIFFERENCE.Stop the welfare state.
Fed Up

El Cerrito, CA

#10 Aug 6, 2009
Vallejo is an example when happens when the power structure has become skewed. Unions in Vallejo have the power and have been given the legal ability to bring this city to its knees. Our city leaders are under attack and have been for 20 years. If they are fending off personal lawsuits from the Union Leaders, they are fending off the threat of binding arbitration and in court dealing with it or in court defending our bankrupt status.
Puffmama

Springfield, MO

#11 Aug 6, 2009
"high quality people" LMFAO

Since: Mar 08

Vallejo

#12 Aug 6, 2009
Shay58 wrote:
You have a city council member Stiffy Gomes, who is anti development. She was a part of the "coalition against the 1 billion dollar waterfront project" that would have built an arts center, hotel, many restaurants and stores all along the water front, but Gomes successfully rid the project.
You're a lying sack of excrement. First off, you are posting under someone else's name, which is the first clue that you're a low-life fool here under false pretenses.

Secondly, the project you speak of is still underway and has not been "rid" by Stephanie Gomes or anyone else. The first phase of the project, which involves building a parking structure to accommodate the existing ferry parking, is moving forward right now. That will free up the land that makes up the current parking areas for all that new development that everyone wants.

You are clearly trying to turn people's ignorance of the current situation into a misguided hatred of councilmember Gomes. Playing off people's ignorance is despicable. You will choke on your words when she is re-elected.
interesting

Napa, CA

#13 Aug 6, 2009
Silas Barnabe wrote:
<quoted text>You poor soul, wasn't Mare Island also funded by the tax payers?
Yes, taxpayer dollars that employed people, and allowed them to earn a living that supported their families, shop locally, and support the local economy. The current social programs here support section 8 housing and social giveaway programs, that only allow for more of the same. You poor soul, can't you see the difference?
obvious

United States

#14 Aug 6, 2009
when you are in Concord, how many minorites do you see ?
gun metal blue

Vallejo, CA

#15 Aug 6, 2009
Silas Barnabe wrote:
<quoted text>You poor soul, wasn't Mare Island also funded by the tax payers?
yes, mare island was funded by taxpayers as is travis in fairfield. so what? the bottom line is mare island is being wasted by not being utilized as what it is, an industrial complex with dry docks. structural shop, machine shop, sheetmetal, paint and the list goes on. extremely little being used or developed for business use. very poor management for development for an industrial complex, just being plowed under for homes and developer profit at the cities expence.
VjoMom

Benicia, CA

#16 Aug 6, 2009
obvious wrote:
when you are in Concord, how many minorites do you see ?
A LOT.
Knowledge

Sacramento, CA

#17 Aug 6, 2009
Lets play this game, and do it correctly. I work in law enforcement and have worked a lot in both towns, and lived in both as well. Born in Vallejo, I have seen and been there. Vallejo has always had a hard time trying to pull itself out of the hole. Vallejo is made up of very-low income to middle class. Majority of middle class kids who want to act as if they are low class. Vallejo, unfortunately will never change. It's Vallejo and it will always be Vallejo. I love Vallejo but would never live there again. As for Concord, it has its fair share of problems, not as much for business but for crime. Lot's of minorities, especially latino's. Concord has always been a place where businesses thrived so much more then Vallejo. Two different cities, two different styles, two different views of how a city should look and how to do it. :o)
The Historian

Sunnyvale, CA

#18 Aug 6, 2009
Apparently Concord is not as much of a union dominated Democrat party constituency as Vallejo. Left leaning policies and serious corruption have and continue to severly handicap this town. When the union lemmings and the fully manipulated poor wake up to how much they are being screwed, things may begin to change.
Disappointed

San Jose, CA

#19 Aug 6, 2009
Number of homes lived in by owner rather than renter is higher in Concord rather than Vallejo. Renters are usually lower credit score/income folks. Most times, this translates to people with less ability to live a high-quality life. When these folks breed, in a large majority of cases, the resulting children are raised to accept this quality of life, and believe that what their parent(s) teach them is acceptable.
CHRISsy

Vallejo, CA

#21 Aug 6, 2009
Disappointed wrote:
Number of homes lived in by owner rather than renter is higher in Concord rather than Vallejo. Renters are usually lower credit score/income folks. Most times, this translates to people with less ability to live a high-quality life. When these folks breed, in a large majority of cases, the resulting children are raised to accept this quality of life, and believe that what their parent(s) teach them is acceptable.
there are actually alot of variances .... but the poverty index in vallejo is a bit higher....consult ...city data...it will give you some interesting statistics to view....i would be interested to know what u consider a high quality of life...????
shANUS n traiTARDs ghost

Pleasant Hill, CA

#22 Aug 6, 2009
Barnebus Collins wrote:
Silas ,Building a strong military and keeping poor people poor at tax payers expense BIG DIFFERENCE.Stop the welfare state.
I seem to recall Michael Moore dressed as a chicken asking Martin Marietta employees in Georgia to "get the government of their backs" by not showing up to their government contracted job. He was greeted with the same indignance you are showing, I suppose government money in your eyes isn't "welfare" as long as it is your "cash cow".

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