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Buggy, car collide in Walnut Bottom; injured horse causes 2nd a...

There are 78 comments on the Public Opinion story from Mar 22, 2010, titled Buggy, car collide in Walnut Bottom; injured horse causes 2nd a.... In it, Public Opinion reports that:

A vehicle collision with a horse and buggy Monday afternoon in Walnut Bottom led to a second accident caused by the loose horse running in the road.

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mebetom

Chambersburg, PA

#1 Mar 23, 2010
I Hope The Horse Is OK !!!!
I guess the car didnt see the big red triangle on the back of the buggy!!!
Maybe that one Horse power was to much and got in his way!!!
Large steel Machine Verse horse and Wooden Box,Not A good match up.
Eileen

Greencastle, PA

#2 Mar 23, 2010
That is a very dangerous area for horse and buggy. Unless you know the area, you are not familiar with the Amish being on that road a lot.
Sometimes, you do not see them until you are on top of them. There should be more road signs along that road for the saftey of the Amish. I hope everyone will be okay, even the horse.
priorities

Pittsfield, MA

#3 Mar 23, 2010
mebetom wrote:
I Hope The Horse Is OK !!!!
I guess the car didnt see the big red triangle on the back of the buggy!!!
Maybe that one Horse power was to much and got in his way!!!
Large steel Machine Verse horse and Wooden Box,Not A good match up.
No concern for the PEOPLE who were life flighted to Hershey?
disagree

Greencastle, PA

#4 Mar 23, 2010
If you do the posted speed limit, you'll have time to avoid the carriages. I'm surprised there aren't more Amish bicyclists hit on this road. They can be more of a hazard than the horse and buggies.
priorities

Pittsfield, MA

#5 Mar 23, 2010
Eileen wrote:
That is a very dangerous area for horse and buggy. Unless you know the area, you are not familiar with the Amish being on that road a lot.
Sometimes, you do not see them until you are on top of them. There should be more road signs along that road for the saftey of the Amish. I hope everyone will be okay, even the horse.
They're Old Order Mennonites, not Amish. Look at the picture.
spider bite

Reedsville, PA

#6 Mar 23, 2010
I hope the injured are ok.

Charge the driver of the station wagon that smashed into them. Why no mention of that?
Nowwhat

Bettendorf, IA

#7 Mar 23, 2010
spider bite wrote:
I hope the injured are ok.
Charge the driver of the station wagon that smashed into them. Why no mention of that?
R U Blind. The report said police issued no report on the original accident. Why?
spider bite

Reedsville, PA

#8 Mar 23, 2010
Nowwhat wrote:
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R U Blind. The report said police issued no report on the original accident. Why?
Same difference.
Sick and Tired

Greencastle, PA

#9 Mar 23, 2010
I feel sorry for the horse - in fact I feel sorry for all the horses made to drive these people all over the country. Look at them - its so sad - treated terrible - if one dies - they don't care - just get another one. I've talked to some area vets who are disgusted with the way they treat their horses - one told me he encountered 8 men - I said 8 men - whipping a horse because it wouldn't move - he stopped, looked at the horse, and it had something wrong with its feet - couldn't move - but those a**holes were gonna try to beat it into moving. Sorry but my sympathy goes out to those horses. And the bicyclists - there's a big pain in the neck - riding 3 abreast and not planning on moving to let you by. They just keep on slowly pedaling along and talking to each other until you are finally practically on them - THEN they move over. And one more thing - how about the horses made to stand in the hot sun while they are shopping or for that matter pulling a buggy full of people when its 90 degrees. Hot and sweaty and they have to keep moving. And people will say well that's their religion - religion? no thank you - not that one!
NO FAN

United States

#10 Mar 23, 2010
Once again--Pass a law to eliminate these hazards from the highway! Any conveyance that cannot reach and maintan the posted speed limit is an accident waiting to happen and should not be allowed on the road!
George

Sterling, VA

#11 Mar 23, 2010
Sick & Tired, I've never encountered the whippings you've described, so I can't address that. I've never encountered any Amish or Old-Order Mennonite horses that weren't well-cared for, as they are the primary source of transportation and farming power for those groups. I'm sure there are anomalies, but that doesn't seem to be the norm in my experience.

However, horses have been pulling wagons and standing in the hot sun for how many hundreds of years. They were used to pull Roman Chariots and buggies, plow countless fields, herd cattle, etc. And they probably weren't treated as well then as they are now. I hope the ones you've seen were the anomalies....
pamale

Chambersburg, PA

#12 Mar 23, 2010
NO FAN wrote:
Once again--Pass a law to eliminate these hazards from the highway! Any conveyance that cannot reach and maintan the posted speed limit is an accident waiting to happen and should not be allowed on the road!
So I would be at fault in an accident if I am driving below the speed limit!!! Oh come on. One has to drive below the speed limit when approaching a driveway or pulling into a shopping mall etc etc. The Harrisburg newspaper report says that the automobile ran into the back of the buggy. That is the buggy driver's fault? What would help is if drivers observed posted speed limit signs and drove cautiously.
Eric Cartman

Spring Grove, PA

#13 Mar 23, 2010
Sick and Tired wrote:
I feel sorry for the horse - in fact I feel sorry for all the horses made to drive these people all over the country. Look at them - its so sad - treated terrible - if one dies - they don't care - just get another one. I've talked to some area vets who are disgusted with the way they treat their horses - one told me he encountered 8 men - I said 8 men - whipping a horse because it wouldn't move - he stopped, looked at the horse, and it had something wrong with its feet - couldn't move - but those **** holes were gonna try to beat it into moving. Sorry but my sympathy goes out to those horses. And the bicyclists - there's a big pain in the neck - riding 3 abreast and not planning on moving to let you by. They just keep on slowly pedaling along and talking to each other until you are finally practically on them - THEN they move over. And one more thing - how about the horses made to stand in the hot sun while they are shopping or for that matter pulling a buggy full of people when its 90 degrees. Hot and sweaty and they have to keep moving. And people will say well that's their religion - religion? no thank you - not that one!
If the global warming people have their way we will ALL be driving buggys.
Eugh

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Mar 23, 2010
Sick and Tired wrote:
I feel sorry for the horse - in fact I feel sorry for all the horses made to drive these people all over the country. Look at them - its so sad - treated terrible - if one dies - they don't care - just get another one. I've talked to some area vets who are disgusted with the way they treat their horses - one told me he encountered 8 men - I said 8 men - whipping a horse because it wouldn't move - he stopped, looked at the horse, and it had something wrong with its feet - couldn't move - but those **** holes were gonna try to beat it into moving. Sorry but my sympathy goes out to those horses. And the bicyclists - there's a big pain in the neck - riding 3 abreast and not planning on moving to let you by. They just keep on slowly pedaling along and talking to each other until you are finally practically on them - THEN they move over. And one more thing - how about the horses made to stand in the hot sun while they are shopping or for that matter pulling a buggy full of people when its 90 degrees. Hot and sweaty and they have to keep moving. And people will say well that's their religion - religion? no thank you - not that one!
No offense but their opinion of their horse is the same as your opinion of your hammer. Do you take special care of your hammer, petting it etc. A horse is a tool to them, not a pet. I do agree with you about the people on the bikes, if your on a narrow road with 2 way traffic and not a very wide shoulder your should be driving in line not side to side.
Eugh

Chambersburg, PA

#15 Mar 23, 2010
pamale wrote:
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So I would be at fault in an accident if I am driving below the speed limit!!! Oh come on. One has to drive below the speed limit when approaching a driveway or pulling into a shopping mall etc etc. The Harrisburg newspaper report says that the automobile ran into the back of the buggy. That is the buggy driver's fault? What would help is if drivers observed posted speed limit signs and drove cautiously.


There are several spots on Walnut Bottom Road that it is very easy to miss a buggy doing 10-15 MPH. The road has some curves as well as several hills that you can't see whats going on down below.
pamale

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Mar 23, 2010
Eugh wrote:
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There are several spots on Walnut Bottom Road that it is very easy to miss a buggy doing 10-15 MPH. The road has some curves as well as several hills that you can't see whats going on down below.
Then either have the speed limit lowered or drive more carefully. We cannot ban cyclists, pedestrians, tractors, farm vehicles, buggies etc just because a few people cannot drive carefully. Other countries manage it. Why can't we?
ssfort loudon

Mercersburg, PA

#17 Mar 23, 2010
You can see this same thing up the valley (75 north of fort loudon, I already seen over loaded hay wagons, trying to be pulled by just two horses, this is such a shame for the poor animal.
ssfort loudon

Mercersburg, PA

#18 Mar 23, 2010
Pamala, your rite on.

“What goes around comes around”

Since: Apr 09

Shippensburg

#19 Mar 23, 2010
W. T. F. IT WAS A MOM AND HER INFANT IN THE BUGGY! THIS IS A TRAGIC TIME FOR THEIR FAMILY AS IT WOULD BE FOR ANYONE. WHEN DO WE SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM!!! ANYONE WHO TRAVELS WB RD. KNOWS SUNDAY IS VERY BUSY WITH BUGGYS AND BIKES GOING TO AND FROM CHURCH.

Since: Jun 08

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#20 Mar 23, 2010
I hope the people recover well and also the horse.

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