Md. smoking ban exceptions are rare

Md. smoking ban exceptions are rare

There are 31 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jul 23, 2008, titled Md. smoking ban exceptions are rare. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Almost six months after Maryland banned smoking in bars and restaurants, health officials have granted just three waivers to allow clubs hurt by the law to allow patrons to light up.

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Pirate1001

Harrisburg, PA

#1 Jul 23, 2008
They wentr after the smokers and you all did nothing. Now they are going after "transfats". Next it will be overweight people denied health insurance. Do I think it should be OK to smoke in an office? Of course not. However, a bar is an entirely different situation. I am so sick and tired of the government and other people dictating what is Ok and what is not. I am a decorated vet, and I am starting to not like my country very much anymore, Ireland is looking better and better.
TLA

Elkridge, MD

#2 Jul 23, 2008
Where are these other two places so I can patronize them and enjoy a good smoky bar again.
Dan in B-more hon

Plymouth, MN

#3 Jul 23, 2008
I hate the smoking ban. I've never smoked -- not once.
Still Smokin

Hunt Valley, MD

#4 Jul 23, 2008
To be honest, I've gotten used to it but I don't agree that the government should be telling us what is right and what is wrong. That should have been left to the bar and restaurant owners. I still stand in front of the doors and smoke and no one - not a single person - walking by or going in and out has ever complained about it.
Guy Smiley

Baltimore, MD

#5 Jul 23, 2008
Pirate1001 wrote:
I am a decorated vet, and I am starting to not like my country very much anymore, Ireland is looking better and better.
You should move to a country that's LESS restrictive than the US - not the one that hates smokers more than any other country in the world.

Ireland was the first country to ban smoking in enclosed workplaces - including bars and restaurants - in 2004. Further, they've just banned advertising in shops and have made it illegal to display cigarettes in stores.
Wyeth

Ellicott City, MD

#6 Jul 23, 2008
If smoking never existed, and one day someone came up with the idea of taking a plant, drying it, rolling it up in paper, putting in in their mouth, lighting it and inhaling it into their lungs...they would be considered a very disturbed human being...especially if they insisted on doing it inside a building or airplane...which may then be subject to catching fire...and especially if it was to become the number one cause of death...............people, it is over, just like WWII......as someone mentioned, the wars created a lot of smokers amongst the soldiers...not a good thing....50 years later, and today, those vets are dying of all sorts of diseases associated with inveterate smoking.......the government is not the enemy, and the government took decade upon decade to finally stop the insanity...the only problem as I see it, is that the United States Federal government did not pass these smoking laws, and should have done so unanimously...some things are outlawed because of their deadly results, and those that scream the loudest about the smoking laws would be the first ones to yell at the government for not doing something...it is over people....smokers have had their way for the entirety of our country's life...perhaps they can possibly see the logic of finally not being so selfish as to want their habit to infringe on others and their health costs in the future.

Since: May 08

Baltimore

#7 Jul 23, 2008
"Where are these other two places so I can patronize them and enjoy a good smoky bar again."

Do not tell Wyeth, he will set up a Nico-Nazi vigil and the Sun will cover it.
Havana

Annapolis, MD

#8 Jul 23, 2008
I believe the one in Baltimore city is the Havana Club. Since it's a Cigar bar where you can have a private humidor it was easy for them to show a loss.
ecinoc

AOL

#9 Jul 23, 2008
If GOD wanted you to smoke HE would have made you a chimney.
TLA

Elkridge, MD

#10 Jul 23, 2008
Folks, we lost. The nannies and know better than you whats good for you won. I'm just wondering when they will have the gumption of their beliefs to make cigarettes an illegal product, stop using the taxes received from them and start putting us law breakers in jail for ... smoking...

and where are those two other clubs that got a waver???
Eric

Savage, MD

#11 Jul 23, 2008
Yeah, where are these other two bars? That's where I'll be going from now on.
Young

Ashburn, VA

#12 Jul 23, 2008
so, where are the other two places?????
Young - Herndon not

Ashburn, VA

#13 Jul 23, 2008
if you are talking about Cigar bars, Max's On Broadway in Fells Point is the other one.
Ninja

United States

#14 Jul 23, 2008
Pirate1001 wrote:
They wentr after the smokers and you all did nothing. Now they are going after "transfats". Next it will be overweight people denied health insurance.
That reminds of that instructive story. When they came for the a-holes, I did nothing. When they came for more a-holes, I remained silent. When more a-holes were taken, I smiled and thought, "Hey, this is a pretty nice place without all those selfish a-holes!" Good times.
Wyeth

Ellicott City, MD

#15 Jul 23, 2008
Smokees...actually all I would really need to see, and I have, is the thousands of cigarette butts at intersections and everywhere else where y'all dump them...yeah, you are all wonderful Americans all right...oh yeah....the unmitigated temerity of demanding your rights....while dumping your butts where ever you want, throwing them lit out of cars, blowing smoke in others faces, falling asleep and burning down the apartment building with your lit cig, raising the healthcare costs immeasurably for others...oh yeah, you have your rights, and for some unfathomable reason, however you do not seem to have the sense God gave you to care the least bit about others. You bang the Bible but don't care at all about your neighbor, office workers, people next to you in a restaurant eating their meals with their families with little children...and most of you smokies do so in the presence of your own children, and in the car...so you don't even care about your progeny...
God/Nature or whatever you may believe in has a way of resolving things that fly in the face of the physics of the universe...step in front of a car, or smoke yourself and children into oblivion, or jump off a high building, or run your beloved atv at top speeds for the sheer joy of it.....and the physics of the universe really will and does not care about your "rights"....it will just act as always and "poof" it is over.
It is over people. As the White House aides told the Republicans when the Clinton administration had exited: The Adults are back in charge.
You can still move to West Virginia, where I believe that there is still at least a tiny bit of unadulterated beauty left after the free thinking Americans that demand their rights have moved there and trashed the place...that is your destination. How sad a commentary that some americans believe so strongly in their personal rights that they will defend them even in light of the fact that it will hurt everyone around them. The thing that has changed in America is that everyone used to have courtesy and discretion. That is why there was no law necessary in the past concerning certain things. In the old days, men LEFT the dining room, put on smoking jackets to keep the stank off of their nice clothes, and smoked. Everyone was happy. Then came those that cared only for themselves, whether smoking, driving or whatever...and most have an american flag that they wave wildly...methinks that those that are the most Nationalistic are the least american. Being american means being kind and generous.
With that definition, all smokers are anti American.
Colleen Vanskiver

Macomb, MI

#16 Jul 23, 2008
The smoking ban stinks, as a tavren owner in Baltimore for 27 years I am seeing a big difference in my business. I can sell smoking products but can't let people smoke. That is kind of like selling drinks and telling people they can't drink them.
S M E

Manassas, VA

#17 Jul 23, 2008
I would think that veterans would be angrier at the government for starting them smoking than for banning it in public. So many vets picked it up during times of conflict. My grandfather started smoking Lucky Strikes during WWII because they were given out by our own government. Luckily, he woke up and quit smoking back in the 70s when he had his first heart attack, but he ultimately died of complications due to emphysema. People should realize that they are not the only ones affected by their smoke. The government should make a smokers' club. Then those who chose to smoke can quietly succomb to it without affecting others.
Colleen Vanskiver

Macomb, MI

#18 Jul 23, 2008
There is also a definition for bleeding hearts, that worry about what everyone else is doing. All smokers are not anti American. Most of the anti Americans you are talking about gave you the freedom to shoot your mouth off in the first place. There are lots of things in this world that are not good for the human body. Smoking is just one in a very long list of things not good for humans. Sounds like you need a bubble to keep safe.
TLA

Elkridge, MD

#19 Jul 23, 2008
"With that definition, all smokers are anti American."

I don't believe anyone was pounding a bible about their right to smoke. I don't read much fiction so its a bit out of my skill level.

I believe its a bit more Anti-American to think YOU are the better judge of ME. I think that makes you a pretty bad christian too, but a great muslim.
BAT

Bethpage, NY

#20 Jul 23, 2008
So are you allowed to smoke anything other than their cigars in these cigar bars?

And speaking of less restrictive countries than ours, are there any that aren't 3rd world or socialist?

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