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Waite Park / 146 pounds of marijuana seized

There are 48 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Dec 17, 2009, titled Waite Park / 146 pounds of marijuana seized. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Authorities have arrested a Waite Park man and confiscated more than $550,000 worth of high-grade marijuana.

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Since: Mar 09

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Dec 17, 2009
dam, just think how much tax revenue could be generated if it was legal to puchase.
uggh

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Dec 17, 2009
Arrested at his JOB??!
Great. One more prison inmate for taxpayers to foot the bill for. One less tax paying citizen. If this guy was such a kingpin, why did he need a job?? Something isn't adding up here... except the cost of incarcerating drug users and dealers. Stupid. It's a PLANT.

“Love requires sacrifice”

Since: Jan 09

South Saint Paul

#3 Dec 17, 2009
maybe he was going go into the rope making business?
TaxTaxTax

Portland, OR

#4 Dec 17, 2009
Hey, how about the one where the Mom sends her little kid down the big steep dangerous ski hill. The kid crashes breaking bones. The Mom is on TV talking about how smart she was to give the kid a helmet beforehand and she thinks she's mother of the year.

Then, there's the one where the female mortuary science student gets jilted by her boyfriend so she lashes back with a threatining comment about what embalming tool she wants to use on him.

Then, we read a story here about a felonious entrepreneur and we wonder why the country is falling apart?
K Bar

Long Lake, MN

#5 Dec 17, 2009
to hard wrote:
dam, just think how much tax revenue could be generated if it was legal to puchase.
I'm all for legalizing M13. But Why,WHy,WHY, do people always say "and tax it". Santa Maria! Don't we have enough effing taxes already? If they ever do it this way, I'll stick with the black market.
Rob

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Dec 18, 2009
GroovyGirlinMN wrote:
maybe he was going go into the rope making business?
Uh, that would be the 'rope-smoking business'...

Since: Mar 09

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Dec 18, 2009
K Bar wrote:
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I'm all for legalizing M13. But Why,WHy,WHY, do people always say "and tax it". Santa Maria! Don't we have enough effing taxes already? If they ever do it this way, I'll stick with the black market.
regulate it and tax it like alcohol. Things would change a great deal. Half the prisoners would be released, half the crime will end. Therefore we will be saving millions of dollars a year alone, thus putting a tax relief for other things. No to mention, the business that could be started and the people who could be employed.
Fund Drug Treatment

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Dec 18, 2009
to hard wrote:
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regulate it and tax it like alcohol. Things would change a great deal. Half the prisoners would be released, half the crime will end. Therefore we will be saving millions of dollars a year alone, thus putting a tax relief for other things. No to mention, the business that could be started and the people who could be employed.
One caveat of taxing things heavily is that big government tends to get reliant on the tax revenues with their spend-happy ways. While marijuana carries fewer medical harms than alcohol or tobacco, I think we need to be careful to not encourage its use, especially so that underage people wait until they are of legal age and able to make good decisions for themselves. I agree, legalize away. But don't make it into a government entitlement program with heavy taxation. I would suggest taxing it just enough to be able to financially fund treatment programs for those who want or need it,(for all substances) and have those funds go EXCLUSIVELY to such efforts so that the greedy politicians don't try to funnel the proceeds into their pet pork projects. Washington State just introduced such legislation, and I must say, it sounds like a great idea!
K Bar

Long Lake, MN

#9 Dec 18, 2009
to hard wrote:
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regulate it and tax it like alcohol. Things would change a great deal. Half the prisoners would be released, half the crime will end. Therefore we will be saving millions of dollars a year alone, thus putting a tax relief for other things. No to mention, the business that could be started and the people who could be employed.
Speaking for myself, I pay MORE than my fair share of taxes in lifes small pleasures. And I'm damn sick of it! No, I'll stick with the black market. That's NOT going away. For example, look at the "Regulated" drug Oxycontin.
Al the Socialist Lap Dog

Minneapolis, MN

#10 Dec 18, 2009
K Bar wrote:
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Speaking for myself, I pay MORE than my fair share of taxes in lifes small pleasures. And I'm damn sick of it! No, I'll stick with the black market. That's NOT going away. For example, look at the "Regulated" drug Oxycontin.
The black market artificially inflates the costs of cannabis. That's why gangs and cartels are able to make so much money. If the black market did not exist, cannabis would be about 1/10th the price it is now, and the violent characters which benefit from it now wouldn't have a product to push any longer. I wholeheartedly agree about being taxed to death, but prohibition is a tax itself, and greatly increases the cost of cannabis. You'd be better served calling for legalization with targeted, reasonable taxation that doesn't pad the general fund so that spend-happy politicians can't get their mitts on it and some actual good can come from the revenues. It would be a nice "side effect" to have the violence go away and have some more tools to keep it out of kids' hands. Not to mention people with medical issues not being harassed and incarcerated.

Since: Mar 09

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Dec 18, 2009
Al the Socialist Lap Dog wrote:
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The black market artificially inflates the costs of cannabis. That's why gangs and cartels are able to make so much money. If the black market did not exist, cannabis would be about 1/10th the price it is now, and the violent characters which benefit from it now wouldn't have a product to push any longer. I wholeheartedly agree about being taxed to death, but prohibition is a tax itself, and greatly increases the cost of cannabis. You'd be better served calling for legalization with targeted, reasonable taxation that doesn't pad the general fund so that spend-happy politicians can't get their mitts on it and some actual good can come from the revenues. It would be a nice "side effect" to have the violence go away and have some more tools to keep it out of kids' hands. Not to mention people with medical issues not being harassed and incarcerated.
not to mention the money saved from incarceration and court systems, can go to education. Education is key for productive citizens. I don't mean tax the crap out of it, I just mean treat it like the treat alcohol.
jw in the grove

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Dec 18, 2009
to hard wrote:
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not to mention the money saved from incarceration and court systems, can go to education. Education is key for productive citizens. I don't mean tax the crap out of it, I just mean treat it like the treat alcohol.
Yes education is lacking so much money, ask tom dooher. How about added it to general fund and at least keep taxes flat.
K Bar

Delano, MN

#13 Dec 18, 2009
Al the Socialist Lap Dog wrote:
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The black market artificially inflates the costs of cannabis. That's why gangs and cartels are able to make so much money. If the black market did not exist, cannabis would be about 1/10th the price it is now, and the violent characters which benefit from it now wouldn't have a product to push any longer. I wholeheartedly agree about being taxed to death, but prohibition is a tax itself, and greatly increases the cost of cannabis. You'd be better served calling for legalization with targeted, reasonable taxation that doesn't pad the general fund so that spend-happy politicians can't get their mitts on it and some actual good can come from the revenues. It would be a nice "side effect" to have the violence go away and have some more tools to keep it out of kids' hands. Not to mention people with medical issues not being harassed and incarcerated.
I'm all for stopping the gangs, ect. But when it comes to taxation, there is no reasonable. Look what they're doing to cigs. The real crooks are the politicians. And for the most part, that would be the damn Dems.
Rob

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Dec 19, 2009
K Bar wrote:
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I'm all for stopping the gangs, ect. But when it comes to taxation, there is no reasonable. Look what they're doing to cigs. The real crooks are the politicians. And for the most part, that would be the damn Dems.
Oh come now, K, there's plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the political aisle. The atrocious record of Republicans attempting to regulate private morality is as much to blame as anything. Just to be presumptuous here, I'm assuming you lean toward the Republican side. Now, with your apparent love of black market drugs, isn't that a little like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders?
Rob

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Dec 19, 2009
Really sorry for the double post...
Archie

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Dec 19, 2009
It is the American Citizens sopping up the billions in illegal drugs that are responsible for the destruction and lost lives in this largest society killing industry in the country.........

Want the demand for illicit drugs to continue. Step up and be responsible for what you are doing. It appears the law has given a green light to the Countries largest industry because their is no revenue in drug control for the Administrative law enforcement. Seat belts and drunk drivers is where the revenue is at, Right MR.Campion state police cheif?

Since: Apr 08

Twin Cities

#18 Dec 19, 2009
Archie wrote:
It is the American Citizens sopping up the billions in illegal drugs that are responsible for the destruction and lost lives in this largest society killing industry in the country.........
Want the demand for illicit drugs to continue. Step up and be responsible for what you are doing. It appears the law has given a green light to the Countries largest industry because their is no revenue in drug control for the Administrative law enforcement. Seat belts and drunk drivers is where the revenue is at, Right MR.Campion state police cheif?
Arch, you'll have to translate this for me, I'm not sure what exactly you're saying here. I think we're in disagreement on this but possibly not.

;)
It is the law

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Dec 19, 2009
Read the law!!

Pretty clear.
Archie

Minneapolis, MN

#20 Dec 19, 2009
Zen:

The average citizen is getting stuck up by a huge police operation aimed at "a safe and sober scam" collecting revenue in administrative fines on a grand scale.
Billions of dollars in illegal drugs selling and consumption by American citizens seems like a non factor to our law enforcement leaders.

I am saying that the department of public safety being operated by an appointed law czar using a huge portion of our police for writing seat belt violations and violations of the .08 BAC tripwire fines should be introduced to the drug sellers and their customers to curtail drug use and sales.

ASAP American citizens found using,selling, transporting illicit drugs should be elevated to a public enemy and severely dealt with, It appears the consequences are slight wrist slaps cuz the jails are full.

Mexican citizens are being murdered in huge numbers because of the drug trafficing and the High demand from American addicts, Armed robbery in the US is out of control by addicts with no end in sight, Drugs rule.IMHO
Rob

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Dec 20, 2009
It is the law wrote:
Read the law!!
Pretty clear.
There are lots of laws, "It's the Law!!". I'm sure you never speed, or make a rolling stop or neglect to use your signal. And of course you never engaged in any "adult" activity before the proper age: smoking, drinking, sex, etc. And you've always gotten the proper municipal permits for every little activity like burning leaves and painting the interior of your house. And you never committed sodomy(anything other than the missionary position in most quarters) before the Supreme Court struck down the sodomy laws a few years back. Did you know there's a law on the books in Minnesota that makes it illegal for a woman to have out-of-wedlock sex? No, you're as pure as the driven snow and stand in a good position to lecture all the terrible people who engage in relaxation with the most harmless substance possible, given our options.

People like you tend to breed contempt for laws, because you quote ridiculous statutes that have no use, no bearing on everyday life... unless one is caught. At that point the law becomes another way to destroy families by ripping them apart for the same activity that occurs in bars every night with a different intoxicant.

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