Panel approves Turtle Bay purchase

Panel approves Turtle Bay purchase

There are 29 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Feb 26, 2008, titled Panel approves Turtle Bay purchase. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

A committee in the state Senate OKs a bill to buy the resort and prevent development By Richard Borreca [email protected] State senators are raising more questions about the price and practicality of an ...

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Yvonne Holcomb

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#1 Feb 26, 2008
Hurrah to the folks that will keep Turtle Bay as is. Keep as much of your land clean and beautiful that you can.
G Reaper

San Diego, CA

#2 Feb 26, 2008
More “feel good legislation? The community won’t feel too good when nothing can be done this session since this legislature session has a deficit.

Who will they steal from now?
The Guardian

Hilo, HI

#3 Feb 26, 2008
The Tax Payer of course and all of the people making a minimum wage.We all know what happens when government gets involved in things way over their heads.
Pat Dyer

Santa Clara, CA

#4 Feb 26, 2008
CRAZY- if the professinal group that currently runs Turtle Bay can't turn a profit why does Gov Lingle and the State of Hawaii think they can do better?

Oh maybe she'll make it into a cushy prison- Hawaii does need more of those
Carol Philips

Hilo, HI

#5 Feb 26, 2008
It's less expensive to purchase the Turtle Bay property then to expand Kamehameha Hwy from Haleiwa to Kahaluu. The math behind turning the North Shore in to a second Waikiki does not add up.Keep the Country Country! www.defendoahucoalition.org
James

Honolulu, HI

#6 Feb 26, 2008
I first thought the Gov. was crazy to propose this. Now I see the Senate is crazy, too. Someone must have a money-printing machine or something.
Diamond Head Tony

Peoria, IL

#7 Feb 26, 2008
I'm certain that if you sift through the volumes written regarding the duties of government, you won't find any text indicating that it should buy a hotel to "protect the people". You people scare me.
Doraemon

San Diego, CA

#9 Feb 26, 2008
You ever notice the words affordable housing are never used. Gated community and affordable housing are two differrent type of communities.
Pupuka

Wailuku, HI

#10 Feb 26, 2008
Wrong, alreay, the state can't decide what are its priorities.
Raymond

San Diego, CA

#11 Feb 26, 2008
The plan to build a big resort on the North Shore was hatched decades ago when sugar was in decline. It is now obvious that such a resort will not make Hawaii a better place and that the time to act has arrived.

God bless the Governor and the Legislature for seeking out solutions. It is encouraging to see that leadership will overcome defeatism.

BTW, what did Oaktree do with the hundreds of millions of dollars they took out of the property?
Kimo Kala

Honolulu, HI

#12 Feb 26, 2008
This is an ongoing ploy by Governor Lingle and her mignons to save "Oaktree Capital" from a huge financial losses, which serve her related personal financial portfolio at Tax Payer's expense. Wake-up people!
takspyr

Orange Park, FL

#13 Feb 26, 2008
We all know as taxpayers we don't have the money to purchase the land. However, the Bill has language that says if the parties involved can't come to an agreement and the State can then exercise 'emminent domain'. I know it means nothing to you people who want to keep the country, country but keep in mind the saying, "A government that is willing to give you everything is also willing to take everything from you."

Besides, what happened to Gov. Lingle's push to change the image of Hawaii as bad place to do business? If you want to chase investment away from Hawaii this is the best way to do it.
takspyr

Orange Park, FL

#14 Feb 26, 2008
Gov. Lingle did say at one point that she doesn't believe land developement should be part of our tax base. I think she really means "If anybody is going to exploit Hawaiian land, it is going to be Hawaiian (Democrat/liberal/socialists/c ommunists) that are going to do the exploiting."

Viva Cuba!! Viva Castro!!
takspyr

Orange Park, FL

#15 Feb 26, 2008
Read this link to Rick Hamada. He brings up excellent points that you - "Keep the Country Country" people should think twice about what Gov. Lingle and the legislature is doing.

http://www.midweek.com/content/columns/ace_ar...
Sunny K

Waipahu, HI

#16 Feb 26, 2008
Kimo Kala wrote:
This is an ongoing ploy by Governor Lingle and her mignons to save "Oaktree Capital" from a huge financial losses, which serve her related personal financial portfolio at Tax Payer's expense. Wake-up people!
Agreed Kimo!
STATE DOES NOT NEED TO BUY NORTH SHORE. If the state just did its job and denied permits for building through SHPD and Dept of Planning and Zoning... THE AREAS CANNOT BE DEVELOPED.

The coastal areas are already conservation lands... It's already protected. Duh, Legislators!!!
takspyr

Orange Park, FL

#17 Feb 26, 2008
Kimo Kala wrote:
This is an ongoing ploy by Governor Lingle and her mignons to save "Oaktree Capital" from a huge financial losses, which serve her related personal financial portfolio at Tax Payer's expense. Wake-up people!
The Gov. cannot save Oaktree. As a matter of fact she just condemned them to failure. If you were Oaktree looking for a partner to pull them you of foreclosure, the Gov. just chased away all your investors. Who would want to help Oaktree with financial capital when the government is trying to steal your land through emminent domain?

What Gov. Lingle is doing is what Fidel Castro did to Cuba. Viva Linda "Castro" Lingle.
teacup

Honolulu, HI

#18 Feb 26, 2008
Cool! We can play Turtle Bay Golf course at municipal rates!
give me a break

Kaneohe, HI

#19 Feb 26, 2008
This feels like the state (showing its good guy face)is trying doing everything for everybody, this is inpossible.

People make up your minds MORE TAXES for everyone esculating/multiplying to make some people feel good in selected parts of the state.

We can't fix what we have now and we should buy more? There is no logic to this path.

I bet if a tax was assessed to only the north shore, the clammer to buy this area would die a swift death. No one can have it two ways, NOBODY!!!!!

Be realistic.

Still from Kaneohe.
Carnac the Magnificent

Honolulu, HI

#20 Feb 26, 2008
Jeezus can't anyone see the writing on the wall? The ultimate objective here is PRESERVATION. The modern hawaii definition of preservation = YOU LOCALS KEEP OUT!!! Not only should the state be involved in this but once the deal is done the shoreline from Kahuku golf course to Turtle bay will prohibit locals like you and I to enjoy fishing or diving activities cause the area will become a refuge for monk seals, birds and turtles. More land and ocean taken away from us. THINK PEOPLE. THINK! The writings on the wall.
Former Maui Resident

Kapaa, HI

#21 Feb 26, 2008
Emminent domain? The threat of emminent domain gives the state a 'blackmail' bargaining chip to 'negotiate' a 'fair' price. If they exercise the right of emminent domain without a very good reason (not just preservation, or we can't afford it), all is lost. For a state that can't maintain its existing roadways and parks, much less schools, this is ludicrous! If we buy or take Turtle Bay, the developers will spoil some other shore of the islands.

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