Isle housing bottom seen - Business

Isle housing bottom seen - Business

There are 62109 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Apr 3, 2009, titled Isle housing bottom seen - Business. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The worst could be over for Oahu's slumping housing market even though slower conditions are expected to persist until there is better economic news in the state.

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55528 Mar 26, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
<quoted text>WOW. I hope Obama is impeached soon. The motion is in congress right now, and America had better get behind it.
Obvious gunrunning and trading with the enemy, treason, letting our ambassador get killed and turning his back on our guys...this dude is ripe for IMPEACHMENT!

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TEL AVIV – Has the White House been misleading the public by repeatedly denying it was coordinating arms shipments to the rebels in Syria, insurgents known to consist in large part of al-Qaida and other jihadist groups?

Other top U.S. officials and former officials, including former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have implied in congressional testimony that they didn’t know about any U.S. involvement in procuring weapons for the rebels.
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Now, a starkly different picture is emerging, one that threatens the longstanding White House narrative that claims the Obama administration has only supplied nonlethal aid to the rebels.

Confirming WND’s exclusive reporting for over a year, the New York Times two days ago reported that since early 2012, the CIA has been aiding Arab governments and Turkey in obtaining and shipping weapons to the Syrian rebels.

While the Times report claims most of the weapons shipments facilitated by the CIA began after the latest presidential election, Middle Eastern security officials speaking to WND have said U.S.-aided weapons shipments go back more than a year, escalating before the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. facilities in Benghazi.

Aaron Klein’s New York Times bestseller,“Fool Me Twice,” is more relevant than ever.

In fact, the Middle Eastern security officials speaking to WND since last year describe the U.S. mission in Benghazi and nearby CIA annex attacked last September as an intelligence and planning center for U.S. aid to the rebels in the Middle East, particularly those fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

The aid, the sources stated, included weapons shipments and was being coordinated with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

Recruiting jihadists

Days after the Benghazi attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, WND broke the story that Stevens himself played a central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Assad’s regime in Syria, according to Egyptian and other Middle Eastern security officials.

Stevens served as a key contact with the Saudis to coordinate the recruitment by Saudi Arabia of Islamic fighters from North Africa and Libya. The jihadists were sent to Syria via Turkey to attack Assad’s forces, said the security officials.

The officials said Stevens also worked with the Saudis to send names of potential jihadi recruits to U.S. security organizations for review. Names found to be directly involved in previous attacks against the U.S., including in Iraq and Afghanistan, were ultimately not recruited by the Saudis to fight in Syria, said the officials.

Now the New York Times has bolstered WND’s reporting, citing air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders describing how the CIA has been working with Arab governments and Turkey to sharply increase arms shipments to Syrian rebels in recent months.

The Times reported that the weapons airlifts began on a small scale in early 2012

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55529 Mar 26, 2013
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"...and continued intermittently through last fall, expanding into a steady and much heavier flow late last year, the data shows.

The Times further revealed that from offices at “secret locations,” American intelligence officers have helped the Arab governments shop for weapons, including a large procurement from Croatia. They have vetted rebel commanders and groups to determine who should receive the weapons as they arrive.

The CIA declined to comment to the Times on the shipments or its role in them.

The Times quoted a former American official as saying that David H. Petraeus, the C.I.A. director until November, had been instrumental in helping set up an aviation network to fly in the weapons. The paper said Petraeus had prodded various countries to work together on the plan.

Petraeus did not return multiple emails from the Times asking for comment.

Both WND’s reporting, which first revealed the U.S.-coordinated arms shipments, and the Times reporting starkly contrast with statements from top U.S. officials who have denied aiding the supply of weapons to the rebels.

Last month, the White House flatly denied involvement in arming the Syrian rebels, going so far as to say the Obama administration rejected a plan by former Secretary of State Clinton and then-CIA Director Petraeus to help arm the rebels.

‘Nobody has ever raised that with me’

Further, in testimony during the Benghazi hearings, Clinton claimed she did not know whether the U.S. was aiding Turkey and other Arab countries in procuring weapons.

The exchange on the subject took place with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky.

Paul asked Clinton:“Is the U. S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?”

“To Turkey?” Clinton asked.“I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody has ever raised that with me.”

Continued Paul:“It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that may have weapons, and what I’d like to know is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries, Turkey included?”

Clinton replied,“Well, Senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.”

“You’re saying you don’t know?” asked Paul.

“I do not know,” Clinton said.“I don’t have any information on that.”

In testimony last month, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., asked then-Defense Secretary John Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whether they had supported a plan “that we provide weapons to the resistance in Syria.”

“We do,” Panetta replied.

“You did support that?” McCain asked again.

“We did,” added Dempsey, who was sitting next to Panetta.

Neither Dempsey nor Panetta elaborated on their positions or commented on any actual arms shipments.

Rebel training

This is not the first time WND’s original investigative reporting on U.S. support for the Syrian rebels was later confirmed by reporting in major media outlets. Other WND reporting indicates support for the Syrian rebels that goes beyond supplying arms, painting a larger picture of U.S. involvement in the Middle East revolutions.

A story generating worldwide attention by the German weekly Der Spiegel earlier this month reporting the U.S. is training Syrian rebels in Jordan was...

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Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55530 Mar 26, 2013
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"... was exclusively exposed by WND 13 months ago.

Quoting what it said were training participants and organizers, Der Spiegel reported it was not clear whether the Americans worked for private firms or were with the U.S. Army, but the magazine said some organizers wore uniforms.

The training in Jordan reportedly focused on use of anti-tank weaponry.

The German magazine reported some 200 men received the training over the past three months amid U.S. plans to train a total of 1,200 members of the Free Syrian Army in two camps in the south and the east of Jordan.

Britain’s Guardian newspaper also reported U.S. trainers were aiding Syrian rebels in Jordan along with British and French instructors.

Reuters reported a spokesman for the U.S. Defense Department declined immediate comment on the Der Spiegel report. The French foreign ministry and Britain’s foreign and defense ministries also would not comment to Reuters.

While Der Spiegel quoted sources discussing training of the rebels in Jordan over the last three months, WND was first to report the training as far back as February 2012.

At the time, WND quoted knowledgeable Egyptian and Arab security officials claimed the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region.

Any training or arming of the Syrian rebels would be considered highly controversial. A major issue is the inclusion of jihadists, including al-Qaida, among the ranks of the Free Syrian Army and other Syrian opposition groups.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/new-scandal-threat...

TREASON. PERIOD!

Joe Balls

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#55531 Mar 26, 2013
A reporter should ask Obama directly,"Do you support or not support Israel?" Let him shuck and jive and then follow up with, "Why are you supporting Israel's enemies?"
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55532 Mar 26, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
A reporter should ask Obama directly,"Do you support or not support Israel?" Let him shuck and jive and then follow up with, "Why are you supporting Israel's enemies?"
They have just been caught lying to Congress about giving weapons to rebels and causing the massive protests and chaos in the middle east. obama is in charge of this. Panetta looked like a just castrated sheep under oath, and lied like a rug. He reminds me of the trolls in here. He lied, obama hide, Clinton lied, they are all a bunch of shit. And our people died. When the NY media starts reporting on this, you know obama is being set up for a big takedown about all of this. The news cycle now is obama's failures. he has nothing to run on now, nothing he can accomplish. The only stories about him now is his vacations every month, and obamacare running this country into the ground. I hope this Supreme Court ruling goes the way I think it will. obama is now on a very slippery slope and it is going all down hill for him and Clinton..."what difference does it make!" She is about to find out.
Pau

Since: Jan 11

Honolulu, HI

#55533 Mar 26, 2013
Americans in 2008 and in 2012 proved that degenerates that subscribe to worldphucksticksdaily are irrelevant. Not to mention those that subscribe to what they "hear".

And another tidbit, only a women would be so fascinated to cut-n-pasting an entire diarrhea of the mouth story only to satisfy their troll admirers then providing the link to boot.

Yes, that is correct...A womanly trait.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55534 Mar 26, 2013
...on the Lakers; they ought to sign Howard and trade his ass to Siberia. He is useless. Owners suckk, players are old and about to retire, coach is a lazy btfk, and that is that.

Just thought I would say that for the record.
Not the Childish Guru

Phoenix, AZ

#55535 Mar 26, 2013
Guru wrote:
...on the Lakers; they ought to sign Howard and trade his ass to Siberia. He is useless. Owners suckk, players are old and about to retire, coach is a lazy btfk, and that is that.
Just thought I would say that for the record.
Here is that Lakers/ Suns quiz question i asked earlier today:

The first time the Suns beat the Lakers this year there was five seconds left in the game, Lakers had to take the ball out of bounds. Why did the Lakers lose that game?
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55536 Mar 27, 2013
Not the Childish Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is that Lakers/ Suns quiz question i asked earlier today:
The first time the Suns beat the Lakers this year there was five seconds left in the game, Lakers had to take the ball out of bounds. Why did the Lakers lose that game?
...because ice cream doesn't have bones. Happy now dummy? Get a life you moron.
Not the Childish Guru

Phoenix, AZ

#55537 Mar 27, 2013
Not the Childish Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is that Lakers/ Suns quiz question i asked earlier today:
The first time the Suns beat the Lakers this year there was five seconds left in the game, Lakers had to take the ball out of bounds. Why did the Lakers lose that game?

GURU LA FAKER SAID:
...because ice cream doesn't have bones. Happy now dummy? Get a life you moron.

I know you bleed sports but your Guru falsehood is bringing you to your knees. How is it down there?

Well the answer is:::::::::
With only five seconds left and while coming out of the timeout Metta World Peace said to Steve Nash, i forgot the play. So Steve tells Metta and our point guard hears him. The play was something Nash ran in Phoenix. So our point guard stole the ball and Suns Win! Mahalo Metta & Steve !!!!!!
And that is what a true first hand story sounds like.
Leeward Lolo

Mililani, HI

#55538 Mar 27, 2013
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
They have just been caught lying to Congress about giving weapons to rebels and causing the massive protests and chaos in the middle east. obama is in charge of this. Panetta looked like a just castrated sheep under oath, and lied like a rug. He reminds me of the trolls in here. He lied, obama hide, Clinton lied, they are all a bunch of shit. And our people died. When the NY media starts reporting on this, you know obama is being set up for a big takedown about all of this. The news cycle now is obama's failures. he has nothing to run on now, nothing he can accomplish. The only stories about him now is his vacations every month, and obamacare running this country into the ground. I hope this Supreme Court ruling goes the way I think it will. obama is now on a very slippery slope and it is going all down hill for him and Clinton..."what difference does it make!" She is about to find out.
Oh NO NO NO Guru is predicting Obama will get impeached again. How many times does this make old wise azz(hole)?
leeward lolo

Honolulu, HI

#55539 Mar 27, 2013
Leeward Lolo wrote:
<quoted text>Oh NO NO NO Guru is predicting Obama will get impeached again. How many times does this make old wise azz(hole)?
You think anybody takes seriously a psycho obsessed with taking over identities of those of us who post on this forum?

How many places do you do this, in your real life?
Leeward lolo

Phoenix, AZ

#55540 Mar 27, 2013
leeward lolo wrote:
<quoted text>
You think anybody takes seriously a psycho obsessed with taking over identities of those of us who post on this forum?
How many places do you do this, in your real life?
I obey the laws of the land.
I don't complain about how my tax dollars are spent.
I don't make up derogatory stories about our current president.
I could go on but F^uck You and your constant negative stories.

''obsessed with taking over identities '''.....you still haven't figured it out.

You are nothing but a laughing stock here, yet it is so important to you. ROFLMFAO at U.

Joe Balls

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#55541 Mar 27, 2013
Leeward lolo wrote:
<quoted text>
I obey the laws of the land.
I don't complain about how my tax dollars are spent.
I don't make up derogatory stories about our current president.
I could go on but F^uck You and your constant negative stories.
''obsessed with taking over identities '''.....you still haven't figured it out.
You are nothing but a laughing stock here, yet it is so important to you. ROFLMFAO at U.
Are you talking to your mirror? Must be.

Joe Balls

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#55542 Mar 27, 2013
Guru, get this! The Japanese radiation is not only spreading on it's own, But it is being dumped OUTSIDE of the designated zones by trucking companies owned by the Yakuza, the Japanese mob. The Japanese government says the criminals are spreading the contamination throughout the country by illegal dumping! Time for the military to step in and carry out some roadside executions, before they criminals contaminate the entire country. What a fucked-up situation, huh? I'd declare Martial Law already.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55543 Mar 27, 2013
lol...the trolls in here have a new Bend Over club for themselves:

"CDC: 110,197,000 VENEREAL INFECTIONS IN USA"

...sure am glad I am not in their club. lol!!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#55544 Mar 27, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
Guru, get this! The Japanese radiation is not only spreading on it's own, But it is being dumped OUTSIDE of the designated zones by trucking companies owned by the Yakuza, the Japanese mob. The Japanese government says the criminals are spreading the contamination throughout the country by illegal dumping! Time for the military to step in and carry out some roadside executions, before they criminals contaminate the entire country. What a fucked-up situation, huh? I'd declare Martial Law already.
WOW! That is nuts! Why the hell aren't they monitoring these guys? Corruption goes all the way up the ladder there too. But then again....we throw all of our fluoride into our water supply to get rid of it. And toothpaste. Same thing.
Devil dog

Mililani, HI

#55545 Mar 27, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
Guru, get this! The Japanese radiation is not only spreading on it's own, But it is being dumped OUTSIDE of the designated zones by trucking companies owned by the Yakuza, the Japanese mob. The Japanese government says the criminals are spreading the contamination throughout the country by illegal dumping! Time for the military to step in and carry out some roadside executions, before they criminals contaminate the entire country. What a fucked-up situation, huh? I'd declare Martial Law already.
I have declared you nuts many months ago but what difference did it make? Your still posting your pathological liar statements. We know a little tweety bird told you this.
Pau

Since: Jan 11

Honolulu, HI

#55546 Mar 27, 2013
Joe Balls wrote:
60% of organic farmers in Japan are permanently out of business. Some farms were over three hundred years old. PERMANENTLY, yes, that's what I said. Meanwhile, Obama says, "Everything is Bushe's fault, eat more lobster like Michelle and roll another one! FORE!"
Typical delusion from beautiful Waianae.

Why show concern now when you previously subscribed to bigoted hatred?
stumpy wrote:
The Earth is relieving built-up pressure. Better there than Yellowstone or California. The Japs will survive, they've dealt with Godzilla and Mothra already.
Leeward Lolo

Mililani, HI

#55547 Mar 27, 2013
leeward lolo wrote:
<quoted text>
You think anybody takes seriously a psycho obsessed with taking over identities of those of us who post on this forum?
How many places do you do this, in your real life?
Do you think anyone takes cougar dyke seriously bytch? Since when do you own my name? Go fck yourself.

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