Why Do liberals Lie so much?

Why Do liberals Lie so much?

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Truth

Walnut, CA

#1 Mar 8, 2011
Why Do Liberals Lie So Much?
Author Izzy Weird

Conservatives and especially Christian conservatives find it hard to comprehend how and why liberals lie so easily. Many liberals seem to lie without the slightest guilt or compunction.

For left-wing politics, lying goes back to the Russian Bolsheviks or earlier. The masses were lied to because the ruling elite (or the ruling elite to be) felt that the ends (Marxism) justified any means, and the masses were too stupid and ignorant to know what was good for them. But the ruling elite knew exactly what was good for them. Leftists have a rather low opinion of the masses, the average citizen.

Liberalism is like a religion, and it has zealots as fanatical as any other religion. But unlike most religions, liberalism has no moral code. The closest thing to a moral code in liberalism is “don’t get caught”. Ethics are situational, and totally up for interpretation. The truth is subjective, and the truth is merely what you want it to be. To the fanatic the leftist cause is so noble, so sacred that any lying or cheating for the leftist cause is justified.

When a liberal lies to the American public, he is in effect saying,

“You are too stupid to know what is good for you. I know what is good for you. I will say anything I need to say to convince you my way is the right way.”

If liberals were honest about their vision for this country few people would ever vote for them. Liberals must lie to us in order to impose the tyranny of liberalism upon us.
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Justice

West Jordan, UT

#2 Mar 8, 2011
http://michael-e.com/2010/05/why-liberals-lie...

Why Liberals Lie

Rational people sometimes have difficulty in understanding the mind of the Liberal and why they do the things that they do. Part of the confusion may come from the fact that there are different levels (types) of Liberals (Liberalism). So before we ask why liberals lie, let us first understand who they are?

I. Hippy Eco-Freak. At the bottom of the Liberal Freak scale is the Hippy Eco-Freak. Hippy Eco-Freaks are basically harmless “flower children”. While many are left over hippies from the 60′s who have moved on to relatively normal lives, there are a growing number of younglings who are becoming seduced by “how cool” they perceive the 60′s to have been. Of course, these new hippies really have no context of the issues that the country faced in the 60′s. They see what they want to see and omit any information which conflicts with their personal desire for self-gratification. Hippy Eco-Freaks actually believe in their cause. When in dialog with these people, It’s best to just nod and smile. They pose no threat to our democracy.

II. Eco-Pacifier. Like the Hippy Eco-Freak, the Eco-Pacifier is relatively benign. Their focus is mostly on environmental causes, but they will support other Liberal agendas without much question. They do however make up a fairly large portion of the Democrat party as well as a portion of the Republican party which should not be underestimated. These are people who have bought in to the Eco-Craze but actually do little about it. They recycle and think of themselves as “good Sheppard’s” of the earth’s resources. They will alter their purchase choices (and even spend more) if they can be convinced that the moral virtues of one company outweigh another, but they are unlikely to change their lifestyle in order to “be green”. Truthfully, they are Hippocrates who are “green” when it’s convenient for them or when it is necessary to keep up with the Jones’. While you cannot persuade them that they are foolish, they won’t fight to support their position either. They are easily intimated with fact and simple “in your face” confrontation.

III. Activist Drone. The third level on the Liberal Freak scale is the Activist Drone. These are the soldiers of the Liberal Elite. Actually, they are more like pawns because the elite will sacrifice them when necessary to further the agenda. Most of the time, Activist Drones don’t know that they are being used and manipulated. Like soldiers, they work with different ranks or positions. They consist of:

1. Community Organizers
2. Agitators & Disrupters
3.“For Hire” supporters
4. Foot Soldier Zombies
Justice

West Jordan, UT

#3 Mar 8, 2011
IV. Liberal Elitists. The Generals of Liberalism are the Elitists. At their core, these people seek power. Some seek power to gain wealth, some seek power to “change” the world. Some act from selfish motivations and some act out of a deep seated Utopian fantasy of how the world should be. Of course, in order to build that world they will have to be in charge of it. For the sake of the little people. These “Generals” are responsible for putting the action plans to work. They may have some influence on the agenda, but for the most part they just manage the battlefield. They set up and manage the “non-profit” organizations which funnel money where it is needed. They write and pass the laws which progress towards socialism, making sure that the laws are so complex that the uninitiated will not be able to navigate the maze of bureaucracy. They use the Activist Drones as slaves to do the dirty work, and are careful not to get their hands dirty.

It is not necessary for the Elitists to actually believe in the cause that they are pushing. It helps, but it’s not a pre-requisite. Some are just in it for the power and money. Morally bankrupt, they are snobbish, cold and calculating. Regardless of motives, they believe themselves to be superior and have a “let them eat cake” attitude.

V. Bilderberg Group. Despite the massive power held by the Liberal Elitists, most are not actually at the top of the food chain. That honor goes to the 150+/- members of the Bilderberg Group. The Bilderberg Group is comprised of the top 1% of the world’s most influential powerbrokers in government, industry, banking, media, academia and the military-industrial complex. The group operates under orders that no details of what is discussed can ever be leaked to the media. This is especially interesting considering that attendees include CEO’s of *General Electric,*Westinghouse,*Viacom ,*Disney,*Time Warner and Yes, even *Fox News (Rupert Murdoch); as well as the Washington Post, New York Times and the Associated Press; who collectively own 95% of all news sources (Print and Television). Which explains why the only place you will EVER see any information about the Bilderberg Group is on the internet.

While no one actually knows for certain what the Bilderbergs’ discuss at their secret meetings, you can be sure that these people are not gathering together to exchange salsa recipes’. Furthermore, these people are not “philosophers” contemplating the meaning of life. So what is it that they discuss?

Judging by the character of the people with whom we know have attended the conference you can be sure that they are NOT looking out for your welfare. The general consensus is that these people meet to discuss steps (that they will take) in order to move the world toward a Single World Government (ie: them). They are not Illuminati, or Free Masons or any other such “conspiracy” crap – but they are power hungry bastards who will stop at nothing to get what they want. And guess what? They GET what THEY want.

So with this understanding of Liberals in mind, we can now explain Why Liberals Lie. There are basically two reasons.

1. At the lower levels, Liberals are just ignorant and/or following orders. They don’t really have any understanding of what (or why) they say the things they do, they are really just parroting what they have heard or been told. Of course, they are too stupid to know that they are ignorant.

2. At the upper levels and for the elite,“truth” is irrelevant. All that matters is the Progressive Socialism that they must continually march toward. They truly believe that the “ends justifies the means” and that it doesn’t matter if what is said it true or not. They believe Adolf Hitler when he said:

“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
Justice

West Jordan, UT

#4 Mar 8, 2011
They also understand that they will never be called upon to answer for their lies or deceit. If caught in a lie, they simply step out of the light and let someone else run the point position. They are sick, morally depraved and evil people who frankly don’t deserve to suck oxygen. But that is a discussion for another day.

I hope this helps to clarify Why Liberals Lie.
AntiWahiawa

United States

#5 Mar 8, 2011
Truth wrote:
Why Do Liberals Lie So Much?
Author Izzy Weird
Conservatives and especially Christian conservatives find it hard to comprehend how and why liberals lie so easily. Many liberals seem to lie without the slightest guilt or compunction.
For left-wing politics, lying goes back to the Russian Bolsheviks or earlier. The masses were lied to because the ruling elite (or the ruling elite to be) felt that the ends (Marxism) justified any means, and the masses were too stupid and ignorant to know what was good for them. But the ruling elite knew exactly what was good for them. Leftists have a rather low opinion of the masses, the average citizen.
Liberalism is like a religion, and it has zealots as fanatical as any other religion. But unlike most religions, liberalism has no moral code. The closest thing to a moral code in liberalism is “don’t get caught”. Ethics are situational, and totally up for interpretation. The truth is subjective, and the truth is merely what you want it to be. To the fanatic the leftist cause is so noble, so sacred that any lying or cheating for the leftist cause is justified.
When a liberal lies to the American public, he is in effect saying,
“You are too stupid to know what is good for you. I know what is good for you. I will say anything I need to say to convince you my way is the right way.”
If liberals were honest about their vision for this country few people would ever vote for them. Liberals must lie to us in order to impose the tyranny of liberalism upon us.
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You haoles think you know everything.
Everyone lies. Lies,lies,lies.
I know everything about Wahiawa and I'm not haole.
Hope you are satified with my comment, you haole!
AntiWahiawa

United States

#6 Mar 8, 2011
By the way, you stupid posters who keep posting about liberalism,democracy and politics in the site should just be quiet already.

If you really want to make a difference, than you can start by posting somewhere else.

Hawaii is a great state. Honolulu is a great city.
Political opinions on this site is ruining the image of delicate Hawaii and Honolulu!
America

Walnut, CA

#7 Mar 8, 2011
Modern liberals need a lesson from the true liberals from ages past. People like Socrates, Plato, and Locke who understood that just because you believe something does not make it true, and you should not mess around with things you do not understand.
AntiWahiawa

United States

#8 Mar 8, 2011
I should have posted anything in this stupid thread!
I am banning this pointless thread.

“DONT BELIEVE FAKE RUSSIA”

Since: Mar 09

CONSPIRACIES BY FAKE NEWS!

#9 Mar 8, 2011
Liberals are shameless liars and hypocrites. Obama and Abercrombie are good examples of that.
da truth

Honolulu, HI

#10 Mar 8, 2011
1. LIE: The Republican Party stands for reducing the size of the federal government.

FACT: Under Reagan, Bush senior and Bush junior, the federal government grew, all three left (and are leaving) behind them a vastly enlarged government than the one that existed when they became presidents. The only administration to reduce the size of the federal government since Reagan expanded it, was, you guessed it, Bill Clinton’s.
da truth

Honolulu, HI

#11 Mar 8, 2011
2. LIE: The Republican Party stands for fiscal responsibility (or sometimes stated as they are “fiscally conservative” or that they will “cut spending”).
FACT: Under Reagan and Bush senior, spending increased and the federal deficit grew to the largest in history—larger in fact than all previous deficits throughout our history combined! But that was outdone by Bush junior, who has exceeded even that excess in spending and fiscal irresponsibility, especially considering that he inherited the largest surplus in history from the most fiscally responsible administration in recent decades, Bill Clinton’s.
(Oh, and the much touted “experience” of Palin as a mayor of a “city”(population slightly over 5,000 when she was elected) at the Republican convention also includes a record of inheriting a surplus and leaving behind the largest deficit her hometown has ever had.)
Noxzema

Waianae, HI

#12 Mar 8, 2011
Demographics

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Kentucky
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The Keebler's seem to be big family names in both states

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“DONT BELIEVE FAKE RUSSIA”

Since: Mar 09

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#13 Mar 8, 2011
Speaking of Lies, Abercrombie promised transparency during the election and then appointed the first lesbian Hawaii Supreme Court justice behind closed doors...he also promised no new taxes then imposed a tax on sodas, beverages and retiree's pensions.

Liberals lie so much they forgot what they lied about.
Truth

Thailand

#14 Mar 8, 2011
"It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it is just that they know so much that isn't so."

President Reagan

Why Liberals Continue To Play "The Race Card"

The candidacy of Barack Obama and his subsequent presidency gave to the left a perfect opportunity to distract and deflect any criticism of their agenda and political pursuits by playing "the race card" as a diversion. Never in the last half century of American politics have there been more people called "racist" than since 2007.

And there is good reason why the liberals continue to engage in such a despicable, insulting and downright hate filled activity. That's all they've got.

On the issues which mean the most to the American people today the liberals know that they are out of step, out of touch and soon to be out of power unless they can scare off anyone from criticizing their performance in office.

Not one democratic leader can credibly claim that he or she is a champion of smaller government. Not one of their leaders can credibly claim that he or she represents a movement to balance the budget, cut the deficit, control federal spending or reduce taxes on Americans and American businesses.

With 8 million people and more each day struggling to survive without a job, little by little the blame for their unemployment is becoming clear. The businesses that provide jobs are shutting down due to oppressive taxes, smothering regulation and the courtship of foreign trade to the destruction of American manufacturing.

People at home yearning to work are beginning to understand that jobs have moved off shore because doing business between our shores was no longer sustainable. Our government has paid lip service to human rights while at the same time allowing countries like China to gain the upper hand as they wage economic warfare against our economy.

Our government has courted them as trading partners all the while knowing that they have enslaved their workers under Communism as a form of conscription onto the battlefield where they still, to this day, hope to crush us.

Liberals and progressives in our Federal government cannot credibly claim that they stand with the American people on any of the issues which matter most to Americans, or Kentuckians in 2010. And as such they know that in order to continue their radical plot to "fundamentally transform" our nation, to take the money of hard working American's and "re-distribute" it through a system plagued by corruption, influence peddling and socialist ideals, they cannot allow any open discussion of these issues, else they will be exposed.

Why do liberals continue to play "the race card"? Because that's all they've got. And when they don't even have that, they lie and say they do.

Voters have already grown tired of their governing.
They will soon grow tired of their tactics.
Their undoing will be in their underestimating us.
Justice

Walnut, CA

#15 Mar 9, 2011
Brain-Dead Conservatives Obsessed with ‘Freedom’
The big problem in America today is all these people who won't let the government do everything.

Part 1

Conservative arguments against President Obama are becoming increasingly silly. They oppose Obama rescuing businesses despite all the jobs on the line, they’re against government taking control of health care from soulless insurance companies, and they oppose increased taxes on energy consumption despite the sorry state of the environment. And why do they oppose these most sensible actions? Because of their irrational, brain-dead obsession with liberty.

Of course, everyone likes freedom — to a point — but there are a number of loud, stupid Americans who just take it to ridiculous extremes. They hoard their freedoms like greedy little dwarfs hoarding gold when they have little actual use for most of it. People need rules and order and guidance, but they hardly ever need liberty.

Liberty doesn’t feed your family. Liberty doesn’t heal you when you’re sick. Liberty doesn’t educate your children. A strong government can do all those things, but apparently that’s against liberty. Thus these freedom-obsessed conservatives ignorantly rail against it like Bible-thumpers do against science, when they should realize it’s not their enemy; it’s their superior.

Just look at this ludicrous debate over health care reform. Of course the government should provide health care for everyone; how obvious can anything be? The government has the money and smart people working for everyone’s interests to make sure all get health care, so why would anyone be against that? Because apparently people aren’t “free” to make their health care choices for themselves. How is that freedom worth anything when people go without? Real freedom is not having to worry about health care, and that’s what you get when you have the government take it over. Yes, you’ll have little control over who gets what kind of care, but some people will just have to suffer some for the betterment of the whole. The advantage of having the government in control is that it makes sure the fewest number suffer, and those that do aren’t particularly important.

Simple logic like this, though, is like water off a duck’s back to the tea baggers. They scream about their money being taken, but what exactly were they going to spend it on? Beer hats? NASCAR tickets? Cheetos?

Oh, yes, that’s freedom worth preserving. But the more money the government has, the more control it can take over businesses and, thus, the economy. Then job creation lies in the hands of government — which looks out for its citizens — instead of in the hands of uncaring corporations out to make a buck off the misery of others. But apparently many Americans like being preyed upon by heartless corporations because that’s “liberty.” Well, if that’s liberty, no wonder so many progressive-minded people don’t want to participate.

......
Justice

Walnut, CA

#16 Mar 9, 2011
Part 2

Most of the civilized world has moved beyond this uncompromising view of “freedom”— if they were ever foolish enough to adopt it in the first place. Can you think of any other country that would permit its citizens to have guns like America does? Of course not; that’s beyond moronic. People know freedom is a dangerous, scary thing, and you have to be careful how much you tolerate. People can’t be free to have items that could be used to hurt others; dangerous things like that should only be permissible for those the government considers worthy of possessing them. The U.S. still doesn’t understand this — in fact, it has in recent years allowed even more freedom to own weaponry to the point that even Democrats can’t discuss the basic, common sense measure of firearm confiscation — and that’s why it is a mockery to decent, civilized nations.

This isn’t to say freedom is a bad thing. I think we can all agree that people should have unlimited freedom to do whatever weird sex stuff they like. Also, people should have the liberty to use mind-altering drugs. We should also have freedom of speech, but that ought to be limited by common sense. College campuses are a good example: they allow all sorts of progressive-minded speech and ban what they consider to be dangerous or hateful speech. That’s a perfectly fine standard, as long as we have the right people in charge making those decisions. That’s why it’s much more important than freedom to make sure we have the right people in government.

So what would be optimal in this country if we stopped the mindless liberty worship? I suggest slavery. Yes, I know it has a long awful history, but think about it. With slavery, everyone is guaranteed a job. Slaves get food and shelter. And we can make sure all needs are met by forcing people to take the jobs they are best suited for.

Slavery is true freedom, because it is freedom from want and worry. It may have been a horrible thing when racist southerners were doing it, but think of how great it could be if benevolent liberals looking out for the good of all were in charge. I would say it is, in fact, the ultimate progressive ideal.

But how are we going to sell slavery to people when they don’t even want a public option?
amigo

Goodyear, AZ

#17 Mar 9, 2011
You all saying that obama is an idiot? Come'on man!
He gives me money every month without working, I have free medical, food stamps. All my family and friends are coming to live the good life. Who wants to be a Republican? No one that who! All Republicans do is work and pay taxes. Wake up!!! The democrats will welcome you with open arms, just like they did me.
loss cause

United States

#18 Mar 15, 2011
Liberals lie so much that they believe they are telling the truth. I know I used to be a liberal but it got to my conscious. Now I'M independent and I stopped lying.
Opinion

Waianae, HI

#19 Mar 15, 2011
Justice wrote:
.... For the sake of the little people. These “Generals” are responsible for putting the action plans to work. They may have some influence on the agenda, but for the most part they just manage the battlefield. They set up and manage the “non-profit” organizations which funnel money where it is needed. They write and pass the laws which progress towards socialism, making sure that the laws are so complex that the uninitiated will not be able to navigate the maze of bureaucracy. They use the Activist Drones as slaves to do the dirty work, and are careful not to get their hands dirty.
It is not necessary for the Elitists to actually believe in the cause that they are pushing. It helps, but it’s not a pre-requisite. Some are just in it for the power and money. Morally bankrupt, they are snobbish, cold and calculating. Regardless of motives, they believe themselves to be superior and have a “let them eat cake” attitude.
V. Bilderberg Group. Despite the massive power held by the Liberal Elitists, most are not actually at the top of the food chain. That honor goes to the 150+/- members of the Bilderberg Group. The Bilderberg Group is comprised of the top 1% of the world’s most influential powerbrokers in government, industry, banking, media, academia and the military-industrial complex. The group operates under orders that no details of what is discussed can ever be leaked to the media. This is especially interesting considering that attendees include CEO’s of *General Electric,*Westinghouse,*Viacom ,*Disney,*Time Warner and Yes, even *Fox News (Rupert Murdoch); as well as the Washington Post, New York Times and the Associated Press; who collectively own 95% of all news sources (Print and Television). Which explains why the only place you will EVER see any information about the Bilderberg Group is on the internet.
While no one actually knows for certain what the Bilderbergs’ discuss at their secret meetings, you can be sure that these people are not gathering together to exchange salsa recipes’. Furthermore, these people are not “philosophers” contemplating the meaning of life. So what is it that they discuss?
Judging by the character of the people with whom we know have attended the conference you can be sure that they are NOT looking out for your welfare. The general consensus is that these people meet to discuss steps (that they will take) in order to move the world toward a Single World Government (ie: them). They are not Illuminati, or Free Masons or any other such “conspiracy” crap – but they are power hungry bastards who will stop at nothing to get what they want. And guess what? They GET what THEY want.
So with this understanding of Liberals in mind, we can now explain Why Liberals Lie. There are basically two reasons.
1. At the lower levels, Liberals are just ignorant and/or following orders. They don’t really have any understanding of what (or why) they say the things they do, they are really just parroting what they have heard or been told. Of course, they are too stupid to know that they are ignorant.
2. At the upper levels and for the elite,“truth” is irrelevant. All that matters is the Progressive Socialism that they must continually march toward. They truly believe that the “ends justifies the means” and that it doesn’t matter if what is said it true or not. They believe Adolf Hitler when he said:
“It is not truth that matters, but victory.”
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.”
I'll bet that one night you got abducted and a grey had its way with you.
Opinion

Waianae, HI

#20 Mar 15, 2011
Gettin' any postcards?

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