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Letters to the editor - Hawaii Editorials

There are 55 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 2, 2009, titled Letters to the editor - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

I am a frequent user of Ala Moana Park. I've played tennis, swam and picnicked there two to three times a week for the past five years and unlike a recent writer I have never seen the park "unkempt." My experience has been the opposite.

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mischal

Kaneohe, HI

#1 Aug 2, 2009
Re: Birthers should accept the truth
Gary, you`re wrong. There were congressional hearings on McCain`s eligibility but NONE on Obama`s! Nobody vetted him, certainly not the media, which surprised me, considering his closet over floweth with skeletons!There are far too many contradictions concerning where he was born, plus confusion about the fact that a certificate of life birth can be given to one born on Mars, as long as a parent can prove they lived in Hawaii for one year preceding the birth. This is what`s on the internet. The fact Obama has had ALL his records sealed and refuses to make public his long form actual birth certificate surely raises one`s suspicions that he`s hiding something. It`s not the Republican party pushing this, but thinking, curious people who simply need actual proof, not hearsay, to put this to rest. He did promise transperency, didn`t he?
Pau

San Francisco, CA

#2 Aug 2, 2009
mischal wrote:
It`s not the Republican party pushing this, but thinking, curious people who simply need actual proof, not hearsay, to put this to rest. He did promise transperency, didn`t he?
I'm in partial agreement that it wasn't the Republican party pushing this. I believe it started well before Obama had won the Democratic nomination by the so called "Born Again Christian crowd."

Many friends had expressed that Obama wasn't a US born citizen. The common denominator is that they all practiced the same faith. So it seems as though fear had struck the Christian conservatives long before the term "birthers" was fashionable. Fear of Obama being POTUS.

When one supports Bush's failed administration, living in fear and wanting others to do the same is understandable since that is all they know.
informed

Tucson, AZ

#3 Aug 2, 2009
Pau, why do you insist on blaming the "so-called born again Christian crowd"? Where on earth do you get your information? You are so prejudiced towards Christians, along with others on here, who constantly attack Chritians with no merit. You are assuming and then lumping the entire religion together based on what? Tell me. You assinine assumption that d=somehow peopl are afraid of Obama because he is black is disgusting, divisive, and perpetuates why most cannot stand the double standard, hypocrites that represent most of the liberal party. You disgust me with you assumptions about me with whom, I am a Christian AND a Conservative and am not a racist nor a "birther". WHo gives a rip if Obama is black, because THAT is what you are alluding to in not so many words. The point of people bringing up his legitimacy has NOTHING to do with that, it's called, again, that pesky thing with the law and Constitutional eligibility for a person to hold the highest position in the land. Why do you and others get so defensive over some people wanting to know it or not? Why? Were you yipping behind Yeah's heels when she kept insisting McCain's records be released? She insisted that, which I agreed wih her, that to settle things, he should release all of them. Ahhhh, but as I said before, most of you are the do as I say not as I do crowd.

BTW, get over Bush already...that horse is dead!
Pau

San Francisco, CA

#4 Aug 2, 2009
informed wrote:
Pau, why do you insist on blaming the "so-called born again Christian crowd"? Where on earth do you get your information? You are so prejudiced towards Christians, along with others on here, who constantly attack Chritians with no merit. You are assuming and then lumping the entire religion together based on what? Tell me. You assinine assumption that d=somehow peopl are afraid of Obama because he is black is disgusting, divisive, and perpetuates why most cannot stand the double standard, hypocrites that represent most of the liberal party. You disgust me with you assumptions about me with whom, I am a Christian AND a Conservative and am not a racist nor a "birther". WHo gives a rip if Obama is black, because THAT is what you are alluding to in not so many words. The point of people bringing up his legitimacy has NOTHING to do with that, it's called, again, that pesky thing with the law and Constitutional eligibility for a person to hold the highest position in the land. Why do you and others get so defensive over some people wanting to know it or not? Why? Were you yipping behind Yeah's heels when she kept insisting McCain's records be released? She insisted that, which I agreed wih her, that to settle things, he should release all of them. Ahhhh, but as I said before, most of you are the do as I say not as I do crowd.
BTW, get over Bush already...that horse is dead!
Why do you always need a link or quote from a news source to establish validity? Is it not OK for someone to draw their conclusions based on their life's experience? I'm not trying to recruit or sway people. Only offer what I think.

Where did I mention race? You inject that assumption all on your own. Where in my post did I say "Informed is a Christian racists?" I could care less how or what you practice in life.

Sorry buddy. Bush ain't going away. Maybe if his administration were not so hell bent on proving he practiced infidelity, then maybe 911 wouldn't have occurred?

It's easy to decipher the last eight years of Republican leadership. It destroyed nearly everything it touched. Are Republicans pro-economic collapse, pro-corporatism, pro-carpetbagging, pro-failed and costly phony war, pro-infrastructure rot and decay, pro-pollution, pro-energy dependence, pro-incompetent governance, pro-international alienation, pro-religious extremism?

What exactly can Republicans point to over the last eight years that constructively exemplifies Republican principles in action?
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#5 Aug 2, 2009
mischal wrote:
Re: Birthers should accept the truth
Gary, you`re wrong. There were congressional hearings on McCain`s eligibility but NONE on Obama`s! Nobody vetted him, certainly not the media, which surprised me, considering his closet over floweth with skeletons!There are far too many contradictions concerning where he was born, plus confusion about the fact that a certificate of life birth can be given to one born on Mars, as long as a parent can prove they lived in Hawaii for one year preceding the birth. This is what`s on the internet. The fact Obama has had ALL his records sealed and refuses to make public his long form actual birth certificate surely raises one`s suspicions that he`s hiding something. It`s not the Republican party pushing this, but thinking, curious people who simply need actual proof, not hearsay, to put this to rest. He did promise transperency, didn`t he?
mischal,

When will you morons get off your frigging soap-box and end this idiocy? You just make yourselves look like bigger fools each day you keep up this childish rant. Who gives a damn if he was even born on the moon? Barack Obama was cleared to run for the office of the Presidency. If you people would happen to think back, you also have to be a citizen of the United States to be in the Senate. You didn't scream so loudly back in 2006 when he was elected to the senate.
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#6 Aug 2, 2009
informed wrote:
Pau, why do you insist on blaming the "so-called born again Christian crowd"? Where on earth do you get your information? You are so prejudiced towards Christians, along with others on here, who constantly attack Chritians with no merit. You are assuming and then lumping the entire religion together based on what? Tell me. You assinine assumption that d=somehow peopl are afraid of Obama because he is black is disgusting, divisive, and perpetuates why most cannot stand the double standard, hypocrites that represent most of the liberal party. You disgust me with you assumptions about me with whom, I am a Christian AND a Conservative and am not a racist nor a "birther". WHo gives a rip if Obama is black, because THAT is what you are alluding to in not so many words. The point of people bringing up his legitimacy has NOTHING to do with that, it's called, again, that pesky thing with the law and Constitutional eligibility for a person to hold the highest position in the land. Why do you and others get so defensive over some people wanting to know it or not? Why? Were you yipping behind Yeah's heels when she kept insisting McCain's records be released? She insisted that, which I agreed wih her, that to settle things, he should release all of them. Ahhhh, but as I said before, most of you are the do as I say not as I do crowd.
BTW, get over Bush already...that horse is dead!
How about the reason Pau said it is there's a darned good chance that it's true. And please don't make yourself look like a bigger fool than you already are by denying it.

p.s. Although I have no idea how Pau feels about Christians, I am totally prejudiced against fanatics, no matter what faith they may practice. And the "born again Christians" are among the worst type of fanatics. They give Christianity a bad name. And before you write me off as a Christian hater, I'm a Catholic.
Local haole

Honolulu, HI

#7 Aug 2, 2009
mischal wrote:
Re: Birthers should accept the truth
Gary, you`re wrong. There were congressional hearings on McCain`s eligibility but NONE on Obama`s! Nobody vetted him, certainly not the media, which surprised me, considering his closet over floweth with skeletons!There are far too many contradictions concerning where he was born, plus confusion about the fact that a certificate of life birth can be given to one born on Mars, as long as a parent can prove they lived in Hawaii for one year preceding the birth. This is what`s on the internet. The fact Obama has had ALL his records sealed and refuses to make public his long form actual birth certificate surely raises one`s suspicions that he`s hiding something. It`s not the Republican party pushing this, but thinking, curious people who simply need actual proof, not hearsay, to put this to rest. He did promise transperency, didn`t he?
Your a racist idiot. When he signed his name and filled out the application he answered specific questions to qualify to become president. McCain was born in Panama and had to be investigated. Obama has sealed his birth records because he has the right to. The government agencys that investigated him cleared him to run for president. Meaning he was investigated and indeed a American born citizen. You and others are so racist and cannot realize that this is FACT. If he has something in his BC that he doesn't not want publized thats his business. You must be a fan of those magazines that you see at the checkouts at the supermarkets. What kind of Americans are these birthers that want dirt dugup and spread throughout the world. Everybody has issues they want to keep private and the president is no different. Tell me what other president was questioned after elected about his birth place? You and others have only one reason. Because he is BLACK thats why.
Pau

San Francisco, CA

#8 Aug 2, 2009
informed wrote:
Were you yipping behind Yeah's heels when she kept insisting McCain's records be released? She insisted that, which I agreed wih her, that to settle things, he should release all of them. Ahhhh, but as I said before, most of you are the do as I say not as I do crowd.
BTW, get over Bush already...that horse is dead!
There again is your assumption. What Yeah expresses is of no consequence to me.

I supported McCain in 1999. What Rove did during the nominating campaign in South Carolina when it appeared McCain was gaining traction, was truly despicable.

IMHO, McCain was the only great American to attempt a bid for the highest office the last 10 or so years.
Disgusted

Kapolei, HI

#9 Aug 2, 2009
Rae Watanabe, give it up, already. Coach McMackin was wrong in what he said, he apologized, accepted his punishment, and is more than willing to make restitution. The last person reported to have never misspoke or made a mistake died about 2,000 years ago. Think about yourself making some mistake in your blameless life and others going on and on and on. At some point, your belaboring becomes self-defeating.
Keith Haugen

AOL

#10 Aug 2, 2009
Aloha:

McCain's birth was properly questioned, because he was born in Panama, a foreign country. His father admitted that when he filed a "Report of Birth Abroad" with the U.S. State Department, as required by law.

President Obama's birth should not be questioned, because he was born in Hawai`i, the 50th State.

The Republican "birthers" are upset because they never thought they would see the day when someone born in the Islands could be President. And, while I hate to say it, it smacks of racism. I suspect the same thing would have been done if Senator Daniel K. Inouye, Medal of Honor recipient and now the third most senior member of the U.S. Senate, ran for President. The GOP/Fox/CNN radical racists would be out in great numbers. Remember the racial slurs Sen. Inouye was subjected to when he stood head and shoulders above all others on the Watergate Commission?

Dismiss those who pretend to be so dumb that they think Obama was born in Africa. It is unbelievable and they know it.

Or maybe they don't.

Me ka pono,

Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
Flexo

Kula, HI

#11 Aug 2, 2009
Rae Watanabe forgets that the US Surpreme Court has already said that although some speech is distasteful, it is still protected speech.
I personally found the coaches comments about Norte Dame's dance to be amusing. And his team ended up losing to the guys he ridiculed. That should've ended it right there.
Mr Neuman

Honolulu, HI

#12 Aug 2, 2009
While I no doubt that Obama was born in Honolulu I am troubled by his stubborn refusal to live up to his campaign promises of openness and transparency. And again why is his college records and transcripts beyond the reach of the news media and public?

With his refusal to be forthright and frank concerning his background I believe that he is descending into the category of just another a mealy mouth, self-service politician that will say anything to win an election.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#13 Aug 2, 2009
"Obama's birth certificate is a legal, factual document and can be easily checked out on the Internet. Yes, to all the doubters out there, Obama is a proud native born son of our state and that easily makes him a U.S. citizen."

Actually he is not a native son. A native son does not have White Privilege. However Obama has and has had White Privilege growing up with his white grandmother.

On the other hand the TRUE native sons who do not have the privilege due to the color of their skin... the ones who usually work two, three, sometimes four jobs. They are the native sons of Hawai'i... not Obama.

~ Lana
What

Kailua Kona, HI

#14 Aug 2, 2009
Why is it ok for the blacks to use the "N" word, but socially unacceptable for other races to do the same. I'm pretty sure Gays call each other the "F" word. There's a double standard in society here since we've been forced to become Politicaly Correct. Coach Mac's use of the word was definitely a "what was he thinking of" moment but he has appologized and shown genuine remorse. While I agree that both words are hurtful, if you want society to stop using these words then it should be socially unaccetable for anyone to use them.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#15 Aug 2, 2009
mischal wrote:
Re: Birthers should accept the truth
Gary, you`re wrong. There were congressional hearings on McCain`s eligibility but NONE on Obama`s! Nobody vetted him, certainly not the media, which surprised me, considering his closet over floweth with skeletons!There are far too many contradictions concerning where he was born, plus confusion about the fact that a certificate of life birth can be given to one born on Mars, as long as a parent can prove they lived in Hawaii for one year preceding the birth. This is what`s on the internet. The fact Obama has had ALL his records sealed and refuses to make public his long form actual birth certificate surely raises one`s suspicions that he`s hiding something. It`s not the Republican party pushing this, but thinking, curious people who simply need actual proof, not hearsay, to put this to rest. He did promise transperency, didn`t he?
It's much easier to agree with the local B.S. press than it is to THINK.

Typical local believe-the-local-press mentality.

The press and some brainwashed people who believe the press make it seem like its wrong to question.

Note: There is NOTHING wrong with QUESTIONING "authority."

Some people are obviously brainwashed to think otherwise LOL

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#17 Aug 2, 2009
Mr Neuman wrote:
While I no doubt that Obama was born in Honolulu I am troubled by his stubborn refusal to live up to his campaign promises of openness and transparency. And again why is his college records and transcripts beyond the reach of the news media and public?

With his refusal to be forthright and frank concerning his background I believe that he is descending into the category of just another a mealy mouth, self-service politician that will say anything to win an election.
I agree. Its not just a Republican versus Democrat issue either.

I have a certified birth certificate and the birth certificate that was published is significantly different from mine.

People should QUESTION why he has not been forthcoming and why is he avoiding the question.

He had public diatribe about the Gates fiasco yet did not publicly respond concerning his birth certificate. Instead he AVOIDS the issue.

The power of the press but eventually more people are waking up.

Its in the numbers:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_conten...

http://www.gallup.com/tag/Presidential+Job+Ap...
Lana Banana

Mililani, HI

#18 Aug 2, 2009
-Lana- wrote:
"Obama's birth certificate is a legal, factual document and can be easily checked out on the Internet. Yes, to all the doubters out there, Obama is a proud native born son of our state and that easily makes him a U.S. citizen."
Actually he is not a native son. A native son does not have White Privilege. However Obama has and has had White Privilege growing up with his white grandmother.
On the other hand the TRUE native sons who do not have the privilege due to the color of their skin... the ones who usually work two, three, sometimes four jobs. They are the native sons of Hawai'i... not Obama.
~ Lana
You must be referring to the Asians/Filipinos/etc., because I definitely don't see the Kanaka working "2, 3 sometimes 4 jobs." Shoot, a lot of them don't even work ONE! LOL!! Geez, get a clue!!

What planet are you living on to believe that BS?? Oh yeah, I forget - you live in Florida. Well, come by for a visit and a reality check. Then leave.
Pat

Aiea, HI

#22 Aug 2, 2009
IT is way past time to do away with UHM football program and high paid coaches. The University and State are in a financial crisis, so how can absurd salaries be warranted that have nothing to do with education?
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#24 Aug 2, 2009
Stumpy wrote:
Obama would be a fool to allow the controversy to go on about his place of birth, because it is going to keep him in the OJ/liar category for the next three and a half years. He will not be trusted. That only leaves one conclusion. He was born in Africa as his family members said in the beginning, is in violation of our laws, and is relying on the threat of riots to keep himself from being exposed.
It is truly amazing what a brain-dead, ignorant lot the birthers are. It is stunning that millions could believe a loudmouthed liar like Limbaugh like his word is the gospel. As I said in an earlier letter, you need to be a citizen of the United States to be elected to the U.S. Senate. Why weren't you morons screaming for Obama's dismissal from the congress several years ago. The office wasn't important enough for you to have a kitten fit about that one?
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#25 Aug 2, 2009
Fuel to the Fire wrote:
Mentally challenged, or Republican?

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