A protest takes root - Hawaii News

A protest takes root - Hawaii News

There are 84 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Dec 24, 2009, titled A protest takes root - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

KIoni Dudley, a retired professor and high school teacher, led the battle against D.R. Horton-Schuler Hawaii in its bid to urbanize 1,500 acres of prime agricultural land in Ewa to build 12,000 homes in a community it calls Hoopili.

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allfedup

Ewa Beach, HI

#1 Dec 24, 2009
this state needs more "DUDLEYS".....GOOD JOB to everyone involved....we will surely need more of this community action in the future....we need to stop ALL "GREEDY" people from stepping all over us, this is going on for to D..N long...AGAIN "WELL DONE".
Good Work Dudley

Honolulu, HI

#2 Dec 24, 2009
D.R. Horton-Schuler's plan to permanently destroy the last Open Space upon the Ewa Plain was prevented by common folk and concerned Citizens like Keoni Dudley.

"Go Green" should not be an empty, political campaign slogan. It means protecting and encouraging local agriculture, while reducing our dependence on imported food and energy sources, currently at constant risk of interruption or cessation by dock union strikes, etc.

It is unconscionable that Mufi's City Administration was in bed with developer Horton, and they both had planned to permanently destroy this most highly productive, prime agricultural land in Hawaii, as part of the Rail Road Job on the tax payers of Honolulu.

Not one, but two (2) Rail Road Stations were planned by Mufi within this agricultural land that Horton envisioned to be urbanized and have condemned to be an extension of Honolulu, rather than a separate Second City.

Dudley's work helps keep Hawaii, Hawaii.

Mufi and Horton's intent was to turn Hawaii into the Ugliest City in the World with over-development, urbanization, traffic congestion and a Rail system that 1) we cannot afford and 2) on top of being obsolete by the time it is envisioned to have been completed.
Its over

Kailua, HI

#3 Dec 24, 2009
Fundamentally, the picture with the article tells the story. Notice the Development is between Mr. Dudley's home and points east from Waipahu to Honolulu. That means he and his neighbors would sit behind all the traffic from Hoopii.

Same basic motivation with the "environmental" activists from Hawaii Kai of the Save Sandy Beach Coalition of the 80's.

They don't want to sit in more traffic.

Nevermind that it would help to have more housing available... don't you dare make my commute longer...
local boy

United States

#4 Dec 24, 2009
KEEP HAWAIIAN LANDS IN HAWAIIAN HANDS!
okden

San Diego, CA

#5 Dec 24, 2009
D.R. Horton aren't the bad guys --- they have a very nice plan and will develop a nice community.

but the issue is whether their plan fits the vision that most people have for Hawaii and whether the model they present bodes well for our future.

How about for 2010 we have politicians and community leaders that start with neutral and objective view of our future.

Let's elect people that refuse to be on the payroll or get a substantial part of their campaign contributions from the developers.

We need informed decisions and solid planning that is not soley derived from those that profit. Is this an impossible feat to achieve?
Kalli

Mililani, HI

#6 Dec 24, 2009
Thank you Kioni for all your hard work. The Hoopili project goes against what the state has insisted is it's top priority, sustainability. How can we sustain ourselves if we change the best ag land into houses? If not for people like Kioni we would be nothing but concrete and houses. Too bad people like Maeda Timson and her cronies want nothing but construction jobs for her husband and kids and are willing to sell out the community for short term jobs.
label GMO Produce

Honolulu, HI

#7 Dec 24, 2009
Hawaii needs to use Ag land to grow food Hawaii residents can eat. Hawaii food imports are subject to big oil prices. When shipping oil costs goes up, our food prices increase. If shipping stops, the store shelves would empty in a matter of days.

Since: Oct 09

Waianae, HI

#8 Dec 24, 2009
All of you that think Dudley did a good job answer these questions:

Where will your kids and every other person's children live? With the projected population growth they are going to need to be able to live some where and there are not enough houses.

If they do not build Ho'opili can they develop the North Shore or how about Windward Oahu?

Those claiming that we need to protect the land to grow food - when was the last time that you bought locally grown food over the cheaper imported produce?

See the major problem here is that Dudley FAILED to read the Ewa Development plan before buying out here. It is not D.R. Horton's fault that Dudley was an uneducated buyer.

It appears the Star-Bulletin is following in the Advertiser's footsteps in not researching their stories. None of what Dudley spouts is based in reality and he makes a lot of the crap he says up.

DR Horton should have had a phasing plan but that was not Dudley's doing so he did not make a difference just a loud noise with no facts to back it up!
elijahhawaii

Anderson, SC

#10 Dec 24, 2009
Surely there is no one out there who believed that "2nd city" nonsense in the first place. That was just a ploy to garner support to start heavy development for the area. Who actually believes these people?!
smilingbob

Honolulu, HI

#11 Dec 24, 2009
Michael Golojuch Jr wrote:
All of you that think Dudley did a good job answer these questions:
Where will your kids and every other person's children live? With the projected population growth they are going to need to be able to live some where and there are not enough houses.
If they do not build Ho'opili can they develop the North Shore or how about Windward Oahu?
Those claiming that we need to protect the land to grow food - when was the last time that you bought locally grown food over the cheaper imported produce?
See the major problem here is that Dudley FAILED to read the Ewa Development plan before buying out here. It is not D.R. Horton's fault that Dudley was an uneducated buyer.
It appears the Star-Bulletin is following in the Advertiser's footsteps in not researching their stories. None of what Dudley spouts is based in reality and he makes a lot of the crap he says up.
DR Horton should have had a phasing plan but that was not Dudley's doing so he did not make a difference just a loud noise with no facts to back it up!
awesome! i couldn't agree more.
windward resident

Kihei, HI

#12 Dec 24, 2009
Mr. Golojuch has a very valid point. Thirty years ago, we fought development of windward Oahu. It was planned to be a secondary urban center, just like Kapolei. HECo planned a powerplant at Heeia Kea, an "Enchanted Lake" type development was planned in Kahaluu, condos and a marina planned for Waiahole/Waikane, a commercial center was planned near Hygenic Store on land owned by Hiram Fong, an oil refinery planned near Temple Valley and H-3 was all part of it. Then government decided to put the growth on the Ewa side. Today, both the state and city growth policy calls for the second city at Kapolei. There will be new homes on Oahu, and they should be in areas that are now identified for growth. If you want to keep the country country, you develop in designated areas.
Mahalo Dudley

Ewa Beach, HI

#13 Dec 24, 2009
Mahalo for the hard work and recognizing the big picture for Ewa that is more than concrete and bulldozers.
The "Ewa Plan" and the politics of Hannemann and the Kapolei Goon Squad- led by Maeda Timson, are all a big con job!
Sour Grapes

Honolulu, HI

#14 Dec 24, 2009
Its over wrote:
Fundamentally, the picture with the article tells the story. Notice the Development is between Mr. Dudley's home and points east from Waipahu to Honolulu. That means he and his neighbors would sit behind all the traffic from Hoopii.
Same basic motivation with the "environmental" activists from Hawaii Kai of the Save Sandy Beach Coalition of the 80's.
They don't want to sit in more traffic.
Nevermind that it would help to have more housing available... don't you dare make my commute longer...
You are right on, "It's over."

With the economy tanking, Lingle seizing the Hotel and Accomodation Tax, Mufi threatening to raise your property taxes to take up the loss, City Council Nestor Garcia taking steps to reduce the City's dwindling treasury, IT IS OVER.

NO MONEY FOR RAIL.

But the last straw was Mufi and Horton planning to plaster over the Ewa Plain. Horton messing up the plans is just like Mufi not being able to manage our City vehicles, but thinks he is genius enough to manage an unproven Rail system.
Kapolei Resident

Honolulu, HI

#15 Dec 24, 2009
His name is Michael not Kioni. Don't be fooled into thinking this man is Hawaiian. He is another one of those who came to Hawaii and thinks he knows what's best for everyone. Michael thinks he is doing good for the people of Hawaii, but let's ask the 3,500 carpentars, the 1,500 operating engineers and countless other hardworking construction workers whether they agree. Moreover, he's helping protect someone who enslaved farm worksers from Thailand while putting more of Hawaii's working families on welfare. He deserves no praise.
Sour Grapes

Honolulu, HI

#16 Dec 24, 2009
Michael Golojuch Jr wrote:
Where will your kids and every other person's children live? With the projected population growth they are going to need to be able to live some where and there are not enough houses. If they do not build Ho'opili can they develop the North Shore or how about Windward Oahu? Those claiming that we need to protect the land to grow food - when was the last time that you bought locally grown food over the cheaper imported produce? See the major problem here is that Dudley FAILED to read the Ewa Development plan before buying out here. It is not D.R. Horton's fault that Dudley was an uneducated buyer.
DR Horton should have had a phasing plan but that was not Dudley's doing so he did not make a difference just a loud noise with no facts to back it up!
Wow! Such anger on Christmas Eve! That's okay, let it all out, we understand the disgruntled that once hoped to have profited off of this "Rail" scheme. Your feigned concern about the "future" ignores the economic reality of the present.

This personal attack against Dudley further weakens your position. What if the Ewa Development "plan" was wrong? In case you forget, regular people came up with those plans. And, not only do people change, The People can also change their minds.

Your post sounds like just another angry pro-rail tirade. Go tell it to mufi.
Right

Honolulu, HI

#17 Dec 24, 2009
windward resident wrote:
Mr. Golojuch has a very valid point. Thirty years ago, we fought development of windward Oahu. It was planned to be a secondary urban center, just like Kapolei. HECo planned a powerplant at Heeia Kea, an "Enchanted Lake" type development was planned in Kahaluu, condos and a marina planned for Waiahole/Waikane, a commercial center was planned near Hygenic Store on land owned by Hiram Fong, an oil refinery planned near Temple Valley and H-3 was all part of it. Then government decided to put the growth on the Ewa side. Today, both the state and city growth policy calls for the second city at Kapolei. There will be new homes on Oahu, and they should be in areas that are now identified for growth. If you want to keep the country country, you develop in designated areas.
I agree that if you want to keep country country, you develop in designated areas.

But planning to pave over the last prime ag land in Ewa, should allow for changing of those plans.

All this "Where is everybody going to live?" comes across as a developers pitch line and catch phrase to try and profit off of paving over prime ag land.

Change the Plans.

Since: Oct 09

Waianae, HI

#18 Dec 24, 2009
Sour Grapes wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! Such anger on Christmas Eve! That's okay, let it all out, we understand the disgruntled that once hoped to have profited off of this "Rail" scheme. Your feigned concern about the "future" ignores the economic reality of the present.
This personal attack against Dudley further weakens your position. What if the Ewa Development "plan" was wrong? In case you forget, regular people came up with those plans. And, not only do people change, The People can also change their minds.
Your post sounds like just another angry pro-rail tirade. Go tell it to mufi.
There was no anger coming from me just the FACTS. If you knew anything about Dudley you would know that he is always going off half caulked and full of misinformation.

I just pointed out the truth. There are not enough houses and people need JOBS! That is the economic reality that we live in.

Dudley has made it quite clear that he did not do any research before he bought out here and you would have known that if you knew him.

I made no personal attacks in my response. You on the other hand cannot say the same now can you?

If you lived out here like I do you would know that Ho'opili is part of the complete vision for the Leeward coast.

One thing is for sure you were stumped by my questions since you FAILED to answer any of them in your sour response - your screen name sure does fit you!
Ewa 4 Ewa

Ewa Beach, HI

#19 Dec 24, 2009
Where is the State of Hawaii Master Plan- that said that Kapolei was going to have a Telework Center- modeled after the highly successful Telework Pilot project in Mililani in the 1990's?

Putting jobs and workers in KAPOLEI rather than on H-1 is what MAKES SENSE- all past planning done by the city and state intended that- but it is being IGNORED.

Why did Mufi, when on the city council, voted for the Kapolei Telework Center- yet now can only think of building a $7 Billion luxury elevated heavy railway- which real purpose is to connect the airport to the DeBartolo Casino-Mall- all at Tax-Payer expense.

Hannemann, Timson, Kapolei Board- all work not to help Ewa-Kapolei- but to line their own pockets at the expense of the people.

Since: Oct 09

Waianae, HI

#20 Dec 24, 2009
Right wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that if you want to keep country country, you develop in designated areas.
But planning to pave over the last prime ag land in Ewa, should allow for changing of those plans.
All this "Where is everybody going to live?" comes across as a developers pitch line and catch phrase to try and profit off of paving over prime ag land.
Change the Plans.
Who says it is prime ag land? Do you have all the facts?

From your response I can see that you do not know the answers so let me enlighten you.

The land has chemicals from the years of sugar cane production. That is just one of the reasons they do not grow organically on Aloun Farms (you remember them the alleged slave traders). Don't believe me just ask the construction company that is building the North-South road. They had to remove several inches (they vary upon the area you are talking about) of dirt to build the road.

This is a fact that Dudley leaves out.

Did you know that the dirt was trucked in for the sugar cane plantations? My better is guess no. You see there is a history before sugar cane or pineapple.
Stumpy

Honolulu, HI

#21 Dec 24, 2009
This is great news for anyone that sees the destuction of our island for what it is. PURE GREED. Our polititians should take notice and put incentives in place to draw people to farming and a better lifestyle than urbanization. The new-age yuppy ghettos that fill the Ewa Plain are disgusting.

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