Governor to hold 'talk story' on Turtle Bay purchase

There are 9 comments on the The Honolulu Advertiser story from Feb 10, 2008, titled Governor to hold 'talk story' on Turtle Bay purchase. In it, The Honolulu Advertiser reports that:

Number of vehicles H-1 Freeway was built to handle per hour 10,960 Actual average vehicles per hour in 2003 17,209 2030 forecast vehicles per hour with transit system 18,049* 2030 forecast vehicles per hour ...

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Futurist

Honolulu, HI

#22 Feb 10, 2008
It's not about rail or transportation. It's about 1. overpopulation 2. allowing the unconsciousable construction of mega-cluster condominiums/townhomes resulting in ultra-high density communities, and, 3. the uncontrolled growth of automobile ownership. Too much personal freedom, not enough social consciousness. Our boomer leadership from the 60s and 70s have sold out to the cash cow. We screwed up again dudes and dudettes.
Kapaa

Honolulu, HI

#23 Feb 10, 2008
Brian Ahakuelo wrote:
I am a Born/Raised and always Hawaii Kamaaina, who now works in Washington DC for the IBEW. The Mass Transit system in Hawaii should be intended to give residents an alternative to sitting in Traffic, or riding comfortably on a rail system to and from work. I am an executive with my organization, did not grow up with rail, but would not do without it in Washington DC as I travel 18 minutes to work and 18 minutes back with no stress, in a town that has horrific traffic. The rail offers practical alternatives and is very affordable for all. Hawaii residents should give it a chance, allow the feeder lines to come in later, as this will allow Hawaii residents to use an alternative to driving to work, and being frustrated about traffic. There will still be traffic, but others who choose to can either get up real early, or sit in the traffic to get to and from work. In the long haul, the decision to go forward with Rail will prove out to be a forward thinking decision.
Aloha from Washinton DC.
Brian F. Ahakuelo
Why are you not in Hawaii?
Kapaa

Honolulu, HI

#24 Feb 10, 2008
Does anybody realize THE YEARS of total gridlock that will be happen while they build this Waste of money?OF COURSE all the construction unions want it.And anybody else who is suppling this industry .
Islander

Waianae, HI

#25 Feb 10, 2008
what about continuing to develop that second city on the westside. give tax incentives to small businesses and corporations to set up shop, and somehow minimize the real estate prices and leases. The westside is a great place to live, work and play. All those people buying those new home projections won't need to go to honolulu or waikiki. Just a thought.
Kapaa

Honolulu, HI

#26 Feb 10, 2008
Futurist wrote:
It's not about rail or transportation. It's about 1. overpopulation 2. allowing the unconsciousable construction of mega-cluster condominiums/townhomes resulting in ultra-high density communities, and, 3. the uncontrolled growth of automobile ownership. Too much personal freedom, not enough social consciousness. Our boomer leadership from the 60s and 70s have sold out to the cash cow. We screwed up again dudes and dudettes.
You are right,but now what?
Glitch

Honolulu, HI

#27 Feb 10, 2008
Typical Advertiser glitch. The internal transfer was incorect. The forum title/topic is not related to comments. or was the glitch intentional? Where's my tin hat? WWW strikes again.
maili

Honolulu, HI

#28 Feb 10, 2008
I personally see the growth of the second city of Kapolei the best alternative to alleviating traffic. Build the new city so those people who live in the leeward plain can work on the leeward plain. And build the city around the rail system to promote a pedestrian friendly community (I'm sure I'm not the only one with this vision).
WestSide

Honolulu, HI

#29 Feb 13, 2008
The dream maybe come true. A copy of the State masterplans are supposed to be available at each public library. Kapolei is supposed to be an integral part of the 'second city concept' for Oahu.

Since: May 11

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#31 Jul 27, 2012
They could remove 20% of the cars from the road just by using existing laws to take unnisured vehicles off the road. These friggin liberals are NUTZ.

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