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Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials

There are 36 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 29, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

How do we create a healthy economy if we have an unhealthy population? Everyone seems to agree that there needs to be health care reform, so just do it! Why is Congress allowed to go on a four-week vacation now? I am a 2.6-year breast cancer survivor.

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willie

Plymouth, MI

#1 Jul 29, 2009
Jim Doyle - you like the French solution so much move there and leave our system alone, it WORKS for over 85% of the population.

If you want to bone up on long waits, do some research into the MA mandatory insurance plan. The average wait in the USA to see a specialist is 10 days...in MA it is 54, highest by far of all states. That is NOT Republican spin, it is a fact.

By the by, the USA has GREAT care and EVERYONE can get it even those without insurance and not even a citizen. Watch as it goes in the toilet when Uncle Sam takes over and dictates what will be paid for what...the brightest and best doctors will NOT accept the government insurance, they don't want to lose money every time the see a patient or do a proceedure.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#2 Jul 29, 2009
"I empathize with everyone who lacks coverage because they are unable to afford the premiums. The private insurance companies need to become less profit-oriented."

Obviously the person who most local people in Hawai'i voted for (i.e. Obama) is not listening. He is not focusing on insurance companies and restructuring them.

Instead he wants to divert more money, create more corporate bailouts, and create MORE problems which is no surprise. Thanks in part to some local people who helped make THIS possible.
Hawaiian Republican

United States

#3 Jul 29, 2009
Jim Doyle: "All the stories the Republicans tell about long waits, lack of choice, etc., are simply not true. The special interest groups are trying to scare people about a public option. The fact that they have to resort to lies to pitch their appeal tells me all I need to know. Congress needs to pass this now."

Jim, if the Democrats think the proposed health care changes are so wonderful, they have all the power to pass it. They needn't convince one Republican in either chamber of Congress on anything if they can muster all their own to pledge a YES vote.

Fact of the matter is, Jim, the proposed health care changes are going to significantly add to our budget and national deficits without improving health care itself, and quite possibly causing damage to it.

While your personal experience in France was a positive one, it does not negate systematic problems. I personally have always gotten great care in the United States, though that doesn't mean its a perfect system. There are many, MANY stories about Canadians coming across the border to get treatment that they would have to wait much longer for in Canada. Likewise, there are many, MANY stories of people coming from elsewhere overseas to get treatment in the U.S. rather than in their own countries.

Nearly all agree that there should be some reform of the U.S. health care system, but a take-over of the system by the U.S. government is not a good way to go. Just look at the skyrocketing costs of Medicare and Medicaid. Have the U.S. government fix those programs before tampering with the rest of the system.
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#4 Jul 29, 2009
willie wrote:
Jim Doyle - you like the French solution so much move there and leave our system alone, it WORKS for over 85% of the population.
If you want to bone up on long waits, do some research into the MA mandatory insurance plan. The average wait in the USA to see a specialist is 10 days...in MA it is 54, highest by far of all states. That is NOT Republican spin, it is a fact.
By the by, the USA has GREAT care and EVERYONE can get it even those without insurance and not even a citizen. Watch as it goes in the toilet when Uncle Sam takes over and dictates what will be paid for what...the brightest and best doctors will NOT accept the government insurance, they don't want to lose money every time the see a patient or do a proceedure.
Ah, willie. Your usual half-assed solution to everything you disagree with. "If you like France's solution, move there". Fool's like you make me puke. Where did you come up with those ridiculous numbers about our pathetic system working for over 85% of the population? Do the 50 million plus people who are uninsured agree with your FauxNews math?
I hate to tell you this, but the United States version of healthcare STINKS. The only people it works for are the insurance companies and the pahamacutical conglomerates who run our congress. Try coming into the real world occasionally. You won't like the picture you see.
willie

Plymouth, MI

#5 Jul 29, 2009
Alan Cummings wrote:
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Ah, willie. Your usual half-assed solution to everything you disagree with. "If you like France's solution, move there". Fool's like you make me puke. Where did you come up with those ridiculous numbers about our pathetic system working for over 85% of the population? Do the 50 million plus people who are uninsured agree with your FauxNews math?
I hate to tell you this, but the United States version of healthcare STINKS. The only people it works for are the insurance companies and the pahamacutical conglomerates who run our congress. Try coming into the real world occasionally. You won't like the picture you see.
Do the math.

47 million with INSURANCE is the issue not the care they get....

Of that 47 million 12 million earn 75K or more a year and CHOOSE not to have insurance. 9 million qualify for medicaide but have NEVER signed up and 12 or so million are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Everyone else in America HAS insurance so you want to trash the system for 14 million with no insurance who ARE citizens?

Our care is just fine, the best in the world which is why folks come HERE to be treated and not to the countries with socialized medicine...

Want to fix something? Fix the fact that 14 -17,000 LOSE their insurance every day because the economy is in the toilet and is NOT getting better..fix that and you just did something to imporve who HAS insurance.

I have a question though since you are the forum expert on everything. If we have mandatory insurance, subsidize it for those who can't afford it then will it be ok to tell someone showing up to be treated, show us your insurance card or pay cash? No more free treatment right?
willie

Plymouth, MI

#6 Jul 29, 2009
willie wrote:
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47 million with INSURANCE is the issue not the care they get....
That would be With OUT insurance.
Happy Native

Sugar Land, TX

#7 Jul 29, 2009
Steve Norstrom is right on the money. Mr. Witeck is so far left he ought to move to mainland China where he can see his ideas in full swing. Crazy.
wendell

Milpitas, CA

#8 Jul 29, 2009
Well, whatever they pass, if they pass it, Congress and the White House should definitely have the exact same coverage apply to them, no "gold plated" stuff like they have now.
Island Boi

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#9 Jul 29, 2009
Randy Perreira, executive director of the Hawaii Government Employees Association, earns $180,000 a year? For what? What does he do other than get his members deeper into debt by not working with the Gov to solve the state's financial issues. Randy hasn't got a clue what leadership is, just sit back and earn money for breathing air. He should take a 20% pay cut to truly share the pain his members are going through and reduce their union dues. Will never happen as he is clueless in so many areas. He has been such a disappointment to all his union members and the entire state.

Since: Jan 09

Mililani, HI

#10 Jul 29, 2009
Island Boi wrote:
Randy Perreira, executive director of the Hawaii Government Employees Association, earns $180,000 a year? For what? What does he do other than get his members deeper into debt by not working with the Gov to solve the state's financial issues. Randy hasn't got a clue what leadership is, just sit back and earn money for breathing air. He should take a 20% pay cut to truly share the pain his members are going through and reduce their union dues. Will never happen as he is clueless in so many areas. He has been such a disappointment to all his union members and the entire state.
Absolutely correct. As a former Chapter Chair in a municipal blue collar unit (mainland) b4 returning home, i saw our union for what they were. They would show up every 4 years to take over the negotiations. Otherwise they were content to recieve roughly $885.00 annually from each of our members. We workers managed, with the threat of decertification, to get them truly working. In the meantime, we made friends with our city council and most upper level management. The situation here shows gross ineptitude on both sides. As long as each side focuses on the faults of the other, no progress will be made. Maybe time to let the workers decide on what type of union leadership they really need/want right now. It is they who are recieving the bad end of the deal. I don't believe the old stereotype of workers being lazy. If there are cases of it, then it is due to bad management. Simple. People have choices in how they work and sometimes workers are at the mercy of management in not only what they do, but the way and mode it may be accomplished. Also, a VERY forensic look at work contractors are getting. Sure, as we saw, some work costs less, but we ALWAYS ended up going out and making corrections. Mo'money. Some may disagree, but alot of governmen workers take pride in what they accomplish in their field.They know they are working for the "people". Privatization brings in workers doing it solely for a payday. Big difference. In all this talk, "I pay taxes" don't forget the workers pay taxes also.
informed

Tucson, AZ

#11 Jul 29, 2009
wendell wrote:
Well, whatever they pass, if they pass it, Congress and the White House should definitely have the exact same coverage apply to them, no "gold plated" stuff like they have now.
Right on the money!!
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#12 Jul 29, 2009
willie wrote:
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Do the math.
47 million with INSURANCE is the issue not the care they get....
Of that 47 million 12 million earn 75K or more a year and CHOOSE not to have insurance. 9 million qualify for medicaide but have NEVER signed up and 12 or so million are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Everyone else in America HAS insurance so you want to trash the system for 14 million with no insurance who ARE citizens?
Our care is just fine, the best in the world which is why folks come HERE to be treated and not to the countries with socialized medicine...
Want to fix something? Fix the fact that 14 -17,000 LOSE their insurance every day because the economy is in the toilet and is NOT getting better..fix that and you just did something to imporve who HAS insurance.
I have a question though since you are the forum expert on everything. If we have mandatory insurance, subsidize it for those who can't afford it then will it be ok to tell someone showing up to be treated, show us your insurance card or pay cash? No more free treatment right?
Did you flunk math, because the math provided to you by FauxNews is pure b.s. That is an out and out lie that people come to the United States to get medical care. I SEEN that people in the United States even go to CUBA for their medical care. Now that is a country that has decent medical care(but then their country isn't run buy the insurance companies). BTW, as you blather on and on that our country has the best in the world, how is it that our country is currently ranked 35th in the world in medical care? Doesn't sound like the best in the world to me. But, by your math 35 is equal to 1, isn't it. They aren't the same numbers, no matter how much Billo and Rush tell you
Alan Cummings

Port Angeles, WA

#13 Jul 29, 2009
willie wrote:
Jim Doyle - you like the French solution so much move there and leave our system alone, it WORKS for over 85% of the population.
If you want to bone up on long waits, do some research into the MA mandatory insurance plan. The average wait in the USA to see a specialist is 10 days...in MA it is 54, highest by far of all states. That is NOT Republican spin, it is a fact.
By the by, the USA has GREAT care and EVERYONE can get it even those without insurance and not even a citizen. Watch as it goes in the toilet when Uncle Sam takes over and dictates what will be paid for what...the brightest and best doctors will NOT accept the government insurance, they don't want to lose money every time the see a patient or do a proceedure.
What are these "long waits" that you're mouthing off about, because if you mean that you have to wait a long time at the doctor's to see the doc in Europe, you're sadly mistaken(but what else is new). I spoke with my cousin(who lives in Berlin)not too long ago, and he said the usual waiting time at the doctor's office is about 10 to 15 minutes. The last time I visited my doctor I waited more than 2 hours before I saw him, and I was one of the lucky ones.
willie

Plymouth, MI

#14 Jul 29, 2009
Alan Cummings wrote:
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Did you flunk math, because the math provided to you by FauxNews is pure b.s. That is an out and out lie that people come to the United States to get medical care. I SEEN that people in the United States even go to CUBA for their medical care. Now that is a country that has decent medical care(but then their country isn't run buy the insurance companies). BTW, as you blather on and on that our country has the best in the world, how is it that our country is currently ranked 35th in the world in medical care? Doesn't sound like the best in the world to me. But, by your math 35 is equal to 1, isn't it. They aren't the same numbers, no matter how much Billo and Rush tell you
Sounds like you listen to Michael Moore.

Cuba may have "free" health care but you better have real dollars if you want any medicine or anything close to real service.

You just keep your head in the sand and think we can treat and pay for everyone's medical care.

BTW, you ranking of 35th in the world is BULL.......

Have a great day in your alternate reality.
Keith Haugen

AOL

#15 Jul 29, 2009
Aloha:

FYI, don't believe anything you hear on Faux News or, for that matter, CNN. The 24-hour "news" broadcasts means they have to make up a lot of things to fill (kill?) time.

Most of what you hear on those cable networks is not news. Remember those are talk shows intended to entertain, not inform. For the most part, they make up whatever seems plausible to their rightwing audiences, knowing they'll believe it.

Me ka pono,

Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
CMK

Honolulu, HI

#16 Jul 29, 2009
I think access to good health care should be a right in, supposedly, the richest nation in the world (maybe I should qualify that with "a right for human beings"). There should be no argument there, right? Having said that I pay way too much for HMSA and Kaiser (I don't know if double coverage is allowed or not, I've been told both yes and no), but it's because I am willing and able to pay and I like the freedom to choose my care provider (my daughter and wife use Kaiser and my wife, son and I use HMSA. Castle Hospital is private and we have paid full amount there for some services not covered by HMSA or Kaiser. The point is that my willingness and ability to pay for coverage should not be used to deny health care to someone unable to afford the coverage. Being a student, poor, unemployed, homeless or otherwise unable to afford coverage is not a crime, though, being a convicted criminal qualifies you for government health care.
Hawaiian Republican

Allentown, PA

#17 Jul 29, 2009
Alan Cummings wrote:
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That is an out and out lie that people come to the United States to get medical care.
Alan, when you make such asinine statements, your ignorance shines brightest. Since I know you won't believe anything from FOXNEWS, here's an article from that other far right-winged, Conservative, mouthpiece of the Republican party, better known as "CNN":

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/06/canadi...

Read sometimes, Alan, and wise up.
Hawaii 96782

Honolulu, HI

#18 Jul 29, 2009
How come the Union is not supporting it's members? Perhaps they should be supportive of the furloughs and supplement the lost wages with union money. All they can think of is "raise taxes" and 'we'll see you in court."
Ben

AOL

#19 Jul 29, 2009
The real issue is, if you haven't read the bill, then you shouldn't really comment.
I am plowing through it and it is very scary.
What the WH is telling you on TV and what is actually in the bill, is NOT the same. Thus the reason to rush it through.

If you want to continually follow blindly, then you will love
Page 30, where the Government (FHB) will makes the decisions on what treatment you will or will not receive.
Page 167 where 2.5% fine for those without insurance.
Page 42, Where they will choose your benefits
Page 58 and 59 Where the Gov't will have direct access to an individuals financial accounts. And your finanaces.

Page 127, The gov't will tell the Drs. what they can make.

It tells Drs. what they can own.

There will be no more Dr./patient confidentially
100's will have access to your records

Your Dr. will use the ability to decide what service you need.

If you are senior, you should be very scared.
Your services will be down to the bare minimum.
You will be counseled on euthanasia and end of life treatment pertaining to pain meds only.

They keep telling you that is is the Republicans holding this bill back, another lie.
The Democrats hold all the cards and the majority.
They need no Republicans to vote at all.
They just need someone to blame it all on, when it goes south.

When Alan said it was a lie that people are coming to the States for treatment. They are coming here in masses.

There was a gentleman on TV the other day from the British Parliment, who said, that NHC is not good and very hard to retract once in place.
It is selective treatment and young peole are dying in England. A 22 year old man died because he didn't get a liver transplant because he didn't fit their criteria. A woman from Canada said she would be dead because she had a brain tumor and Canada told her it would be 6 months before she got an appointment.

Drs. are leaving the AMA because of the support.

The life expectancy in Canada has now fallen 16%.
Yes, this sounds like progress.

We all need to call our Congressman and demand they read it through before voting.

Please read the bill yourself and see the lies for what they are. And then ask yourself why the Pres and his Congress will NOT be using this program.
Nobama

Honolulu, HI

#20 Jul 29, 2009
Jim Doyle !

Hypocrite !

GO LIVE IN COMMIE FRANCE ;)

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