Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editor...

Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials

There are 34 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Oct 19, 2009, titled Letters to the Editor - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

What is our society coming to when one can watch another human being "either shoving or choking her with both hands near the throat area" ... "made the choking or shoving movement five times, then stopped for a total of 30 repetitions" ? How can anyone witness that kind of brutality and never make a 911 call? It is a dangerous world we live in ...

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Malice

Honolulu, HI

#22 Oct 19, 2009
David Cannell
Waipahu

this is the most ridiculous opinion I've ever heard.
'nuff said
Force homeless out

Honolulu, HI

#23 Oct 19, 2009
Put up "no loitering" signs everywhere - parks, bus stops, shopping centers, vacant lots, etc. Create a law making it illegal to park a car on the public streets for longer than 4 hours. Have HPD move the homeless out of all these areas. Leave only one option for the homeless - go to a homeless shelter.
50-cent coffee

Honolulu, HI

#24 Oct 19, 2009
"Open hotels to the homeless"

Once I was a trustee for a prominent church in East Oahu. We had a problem with a homeless lady living on the doorsteps of the santuary during the evenings. The trustees wanted to get rid of her, I was the lone dissenting vote, quoting the Lord's Prayer, "Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive our trespassers".

The trustees voted to get rid of her, I left that church.
How Come responds

Honolulu, HI

#25 Oct 19, 2009
50-cent coffee wrote:
"Open hotels to the homeless"
Once I was a trustee for a prominent church in East Oahu. We had a problem with a homeless lady living on the doorsteps of the santuary during the evenings. The trustees wanted to get rid of her, I was the lone dissenting vote, quoting the Lord's Prayer, "Forgive us our tresspasses as we forgive our trespassers".
The trustees voted to get rid of her, I left that church.
Instead of getting rid of her, why didn't you attempt to take her in. Give her a non-paying job of night watchperson?
Then you could still be with that church.(I know, hindsight is 20/20, but the thought just popped into my mind after reading your post.)
Big Buggah

Hillsboro, OR

#26 Oct 19, 2009
Hey, Mr. Cannell, you forgot that these people aren't just sleepy, they're also hungry. Hy's Steak House hasn't been that busy lately, so we should let them go there for a meal, but they have to bus their own table. Then make sure they have a town car so they don't have to walk all the way back to the hotel. This will make them feel real good, and they will all become fine, upstanding citizens. While you're at it, legalize meth so they have something to do when they aren't sleeping and eating and riding around in their town cars.
Cosmic Fisherman

United States

#27 Oct 19, 2009
Big Buggah wrote:
Hey, Mr. Cannell, you forgot that these people aren't just sleepy, they're also hungry. Hy's Steak House hasn't been that busy lately, so we should let them go there for a meal, but they have to bus their own table. Then make sure they have a town car so they don't have to walk all the way back to the hotel. This will make them feel real good, and they will all become fine, upstanding citizens. While you're at it, legalize meth so they have something to do when they aren't sleeping and eating and riding around in their town cars.
Are you crazy! Do you know how much it costs to park a town car at the hotel? Give them all little rascals and bungee cords and they can strap small kegs on and ride them up to their rooms.
Stumpy

Honolulu, HI

#28 Oct 19, 2009
Yeah wrote:
It's curious to see up to this point, most on the right are more "sick" about the homeless and the associated costs than they are about a murder on the beach.
Seems money carries more weight since a conscience is "free" of any monetary value.
Interesting.
No-one, not even lefties, would have advised this stupid woman to go onto a dark beach with a ghetto-looking black stranger to do drugs and be his plaything. She did that all on her own as a twenty-five year old hoochie. Nothing anyone could do about it, just Darwin's theory in practice. "those on the right" PFFFFFFT!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#29 Oct 19, 2009
Stumpy wrote:
<quoted text> No-one, not even lefties, would have advised this stupid woman to go onto a dark beach with a ghetto-looking black stranger to do drugs and be his plaything. She did that all on her own as a twenty-five year old hoochie. Nothing anyone could do about it, just Darwin's theory in practice. "those on the right" PFFFFFFT!
"Darwin's Theory" in practice? Is that how you view military personnel who die too?
Fisherman

Honolulu, HI

#30 Oct 19, 2009
satch7 wrote:
Mr. Cannel should set an example and allow one or two of these homeless orphans sleep in his domicile than lets see what his attitude would be toward these homeless. I am tired of these liberals that make suggestions as long as it does not affect them. Personally, I would like to round up all these homeless and ship them to Kahoolawe or some island and let them make do for themselves. Sick of these bleeding liberals always making recommendations etc...for these homeless idiots. Yes, I do expect a multitude of criticism towards me but so be it.
"Yes, I do expect a multitude of criticism towards me but so be it."
I'm noticing a pattern here. The more mean the post, the more green checks. The self-righteous like to judge.
So I'll repeat, yes, I do expect a multitude of criticism towards me but so be it.(let's see some nuts, lemons and white light bulbs, come on, you can do it, yes you can)
GIVE ME A BREAK

Kaneohe, HI

#31 Oct 19, 2009
ALFRED BLOOM---

IF THE PEOPLE OF MOLOKAI READ THE LETTER YOU QUOTED, I THINK THEY WOULD BE PUZZLED, AS TOO WHY A MAN THAT GAVE SO MUCH (EVEN HIS LIFE), COULDN'T BE A CITIZEN OF HAWAII......

THINK ABOUT IT....

still from Kaneohe...
mischal

Kaneohe, HI

#32 Oct 20, 2009
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>There are schools that already do that. They do allow the football team to pray. They even have school prayers. They're called parochial schools.
And since when did parents abdicate their responsibilities to bring up and teach their children? So you do have a choice. You simply want the government to pay for what you believe in and no one else.
My point is that the majority succumbs to the minority now. No one is forcing you to pray, or even acknowledge God, a kid could just stand there, but don`t deny those who believe, who want to ask for a safe game, the right to do so. Want the govt. to pay for what I believe in?? How much does 30 seconds cost? On the contrary, the govt. is paying to indoctrinate school children into a progressive/liberal way of thinking! They don`t care if it offends me or is in violation of my religion, AND they`re using my tax dollar to do it! Parents who have opted to home school STILL have to comply with what is to be taught.

I don`t know when parents abdicated their responsibilities of raising their kids but many of them have. Kids are having kids and the number of single parent households is on the rise. Drop out rates are high. Gangs become kids` families. Would it be SO terrible a thing to let people who want to, acknowledge there is a god? To see God as hope when they have nothing else?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#33 Oct 20, 2009
mischal wrote:
<quoted text>
My point is that the majority succumbs to the minority now. No one is forcing you to pray, or even acknowledge God, a kid could just stand there, but don`t deny those who believe, who want to ask for a safe game, the right to do so. Want the govt. to pay for what I believe in?? How much does 30 seconds cost? On the contrary, the govt. is paying to indoctrinate school children into a progressive/liberal way of thinking! They don`t care if it offends me or is in violation of my religion, AND they`re using my tax dollar to do it! Parents who have opted to home school STILL have to comply with what is to be taught.
I don`t know when parents abdicated their responsibilities of raising their kids but many of them have. Kids are having kids and the number of single parent households is on the rise. Drop out rates are high. Gangs become kids` families. Would it be SO terrible a thing to let people who want to, acknowledge there is a god? To see God as hope when they have nothing else?
What majority are you talking about? What minority are you referring to? Iíve never heard of that before in any state in any school. If you donít like what public schools teach, as Iíve said you have the CHOICE of sending your kids to parochial school. Then you can brainwash your kids the way you think they should be.

Schools shouldnít care if it offends your religious beliefs because thatís all on you. Why should they give preference to one religion over another? The safest way is to treat all the same and all neutrally. What youíre looking for is preferential treatment.

I see nothing wrong with acknowledging God. I have nothing against hope. But I have something against people who feel the need to impose their will upon me. You list a number of things that are wrong in this world. Yet you make no connection to religion. Itís simply what you want to believe.
mischal

Kaneohe, HI

#34 Oct 20, 2009
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>What majority are you talking about? What minority are you referring to? Iíve never heard of that before in any state in any school. If you donít like what public schools teach, as Iíve said you have the CHOICE of sending your kids to parochial school. Then you can brainwash your kids the way you think they should be.
Schools shouldnít care if it offends your religious beliefs because thatís all on you. Why should they give preference to one religion over another? The safest way is to treat all the same and all neutrally. What youíre looking for is preferential treatment.
I see nothing wrong with acknowledging God. I have nothing against hope. But I have something against people who feel the need to impose their will upon me. You list a number of things that are wrong in this world. Yet you make no connection to religion. Itís simply what you want to believe.
Then why are we so afraid of offending atheists? Isn`t it all on them if they don`t believe? It`s not about an organized religion, which is different from a simple belief in a higher power. It`s not about imposing anyone`s will on you, don`t think about god if you don`t want to; count the blades of grass on the field for 30 seconds and respect those who want to acknowledge Him. Ironically, we are catering to Muslims in public schools as not to offend THEIR religious beliefs.

The majority of people believe there is a god, the minority does not. It just seems reasonable that as our society becomes more secular, the less conscience people have; they can watch a murder and do nothing. Thirty years ago, we didn`t see the brutality we see today. People had more of a sense of morality. I think we`re headed in the wrong direction.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#35 Oct 20, 2009
mischal wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are we so afraid of offending atheists? Isn`t it all on them if they don`t believe? It`s not about an organized religion, which is different from a simple belief in a higher power. It`s not about imposing anyone`s will on you, don`t think about god if you don`t want to; count the blades of grass on the field for 30 seconds and respect those who want to acknowledge Him. Ironically, we are catering to Muslims in public schools as not to offend THEIR religious beliefs.
The majority of people believe there is a god, the minority does not. It just seems reasonable that as our society becomes more secular, the less conscience people have; they can watch a murder and do nothing. Thirty years ago, we didn`t see the brutality we see today. People had more of a sense of morality. I think we`re headed in the wrong direction.
As I've said, you are free to send your children to parochial school. I find it very odd you don't want to acknowledge that option but instead, keep wanting to impress your will upon others.

It's funny how you claim more people believe in God, yet our society is becoming more secular. Sounds like a dichotomy or confusion of thought to me. To me, it sounds like you're living in constant fear of the world and want the world to change for your benefit. Sorry but it doesn't revolve around you and your will.

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