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'They're going to end up learning nothing' - Hawaii News

There are 62 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Oct 24, 2009, titled 'They're going to end up learning nothing' - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Enrollment for Furlough Friday programs at YMCA's Leeward Branch in Waipahu doubled over 24 hours as parents made last-minute arrangements.

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Anastasia

Wahiawa, HI

#2 Oct 24, 2009
Have the parents pay for their children on the furlough days if they really feel its important for them to be in school.

Parents with multiple children should be paying more in taxes. Take away tax deductions for those with piles of children.
lamer

Honolulu, HI

#3 Oct 24, 2009
And I ask-how is that any different from what they're "learning" now????

"They're going to end up learning nothing"
Charles

Wahiawa, HI

#4 Oct 24, 2009
This is a shameful chapter in Hawaii's history. We made the evening news last night -- for giving our island keiki some of the lousiest education available in the USA. GROW UP Hawaii!
Lafayette

Mililani, HI

#5 Oct 24, 2009
"Let them eat brioche".

Someone needs a hair dresser treatment; permanently.
LOL

Kihei, HI

#6 Oct 24, 2009
Students can learn a lot from Furlough Fridays. Here's a big one: Cause and Effect. Parents, TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT IT.

KIDS CAN LEARN ANYWHERE, NOT JUST IN SCHOOL! Let kids help prepare a meal and figure out how to measure. Involve kids in marketing--using the scale to weigh fruit, figuring out totals, count money. LEARN TO TELL TIME ON AN ANALOG CLOCK! So much to learn. Can't learn it all in school.
POW

Honolulu, HI

#7 Oct 24, 2009
You need to change that statement "Kids can learn anywhere, JUST NOT IN (A HAWAII) SCHOOL"
LOL wrote:
Students can learn a lot from Furlough Fridays. Here's a big one: Cause and Effect. Parents, TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT IT.
KIDS CAN LEARN ANYWHERE, NOT JUST IN SCHOOL! Let kids help prepare a meal and figure out how to measure. Involve kids in marketing--using the scale to weigh fruit, figuring out totals, count money. LEARN TO TELL TIME ON AN ANALOG CLOCK! So much to learn. Can't learn it all in school.
olo

Honolulu, HI

#8 Oct 24, 2009
What's an analog clock?

And I didn't know I could use a scale to not only weigh fruit but to figure out totals and count money too!! WOW!!!!!!!
Local grown

Honolulu, HI

#9 Oct 24, 2009
I know there have been complaints about the Hawaii school system for years. The school days have always been among the lowest in all the states.
My kids were in public schools for the first 7 yrs. I went for 9 1/2 yrs before attending private school. We managed but it also depends on the parents. The kids in Hawaii are pidgin English speakers and that limits their chances for better jobs as time goes on. Tests are not in pidgin and testing probably is harder for those kids. I'm not sure that missing school will make much difference. I'm not convinced that the majority of Hawaii public school teachers are all that great.If they were, the scores would be higher and the kids would achieve more. Standard English in the classrooms would elevate the level of education and teach kids the way the English is spoken. Save the pidgin for after school. It's about the environment. To survive in the real world, good education is what it takes. As the bumper stickers say, "if you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
LOL

Kihei, HI

#10 Oct 24, 2009
olo wrote:
What's an analog clock?
And I didn't know I could use a scale to not only weigh fruit but to figure out totals and count money too!! WOW!!!!!!!
LOL! <rolls eyes>
Janelle

Wahiawa, HI

#11 Oct 24, 2009
LOL wrote:
Students can learn a lot from Furlough Fridays. Here's a big one: Cause and Effect. Parents, TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT IT. KIDS CAN LEARN ANYWHERE, NOT JUST IN SCHOOL! Let kids help prepare a meal and figure out how to measure. Involve kids in marketing--using the scale to weigh fruit, figuring out totals, count money. LEARN TO TELL TIME ON AN ANALOG CLOCK! So much to learn. Can't learn it all in school.
That's your solution? Talk to the kids about furlough days? Teach them to read analog clocks? Will that be before the babysitter arrives, or after she leaves? Or will you add it to the curriculum that harried employers and the YMCA are offering during the day -- coloring, playing video games and watching TV?
DADDY LAU

AOL

#12 Oct 24, 2009
Perseverance and fortitude!!!!!!!!
Poi

San Francisco, CA

#13 Oct 24, 2009
There is a tremendous vital lesson to be learned from all of this and the earlier kids recognize it the better.

That is the simple fact that the Unions OWN Hawaii.

And the second lesson is that education is really useless to success in Hawaii. It is far more important to establish connections, usually based upon ethnic nepotism.

If the kids learn that by this entire fiasco, they will be well prepared for life in Hawaii.
Positive news in Hawaii

San Diego, CA

#14 Oct 24, 2009
Your children's first teacher is you. Parents like to shift the responsibility to teachers who admitedly also state the responsibility is the parents. Create worksheets, or test your children when you come home from work. Your child will learn something if you take responsibility.
Idiots

Wahiawa, HI

#15 Oct 24, 2009
They're going to end up learning nothing."

Standard English?? How did that prevent the American banking system from collapse??? Or GM? AIG? FAnnie Mae? Look at Obama. Good at English but hasn't done a damn thing.
Badua can teach her children about the company she works for. Wal Mart. The only successful company in America and did not need a Federal bailout.
Low wages, cheap imports from China = sucess. No education or brains can compete with that. Learn Mandarin or Japanese. They have all the cash.
Trash Gordon

Honolulu, HI

#16 Oct 24, 2009
Positive news in Hawaii wrote:
Your children's first teacher is you. Parents like to shift the responsibility to teachers who admitedly also state the responsibility is the parents. Create worksheets, or test your children when you come home from work. Your child will learn something if you take responsibility.
Better to have the children take this opportunity to teach their parents some of what school has already taught them - how to read a book or two, how to do a bit of science, how to make a logical assessment, how to recognize that living things evolve, and so forth.
Oh, wait, schools here don't really teach that stuff because, catch 22, the parents already told the kids that local superstitions rule, and never screw with the soul of the taro.
LOL

Kihei, HI

#17 Oct 24, 2009
Janelle wrote:
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That's your solution? Talk to the kids about furlough days? Teach them to read analog clocks? Will that be before the babysitter arrives, or after she leaves? Or will you add it to the curriculum that harried employers and the YMCA are offering during the day -- coloring, playing video games and watching TV?
That wasn't a child care solution, but suggestions on how to make lemonade out of lemons and show how kids can learn outside of school. Some parents think 100% of learning takes place in school, so if school is closed, kids end up learning nothing. Geez.
alice

United States

#18 Oct 24, 2009
Lingle loves to divide people..it is the only thing she does well.
noend

Ewa Beach, HI

#19 Oct 24, 2009
i think they will from now on learn more on fridays than they ever did...as long as they keep off those damn cell phones.why do parents waste their money on these childrens cell phones..i really think parents are much more stupid than their kids.they sure act like it
noend

Ewa Beach, HI

#20 Oct 24, 2009
Charles wrote:
This is a shameful chapter in Hawaii's history. We made the evening news last night -- for giving our island keiki some of the lousiest education available in the USA. GROW UP Hawaii!
if the people did something about this long ago this country would not have been in this DAMN MESS today..i am glad we are STARTING NOW....to MUCH useless programs and waste in this country at all government levels.
alice

United States

#21 Oct 24, 2009
alice wrote:
Lingle loves to divide people..it is the only thing she does well.
we need new leadership out here

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