Land Use Commission takes on city plan to extend life of Waiman...

The immediate future of the Waimanalo Gulch landfill -- a longtime source of contention on the Leeward Coast -- is expected to be decided this week. Full Story
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Da kine

Trenton, NJ

#1 Sep 7, 2009
Take da area behind Lingle and Mufi's offices,Hawaii kai,Beretania Police d.These places are just fine for expansion.Think about it.
Da kine

Trenton, NJ

#2 Sep 7, 2009
Eh you da kine I almost forgot da area around "O.H.A."who's working hard for them "only".
ComeOn

Kahului, HI

#3 Sep 7, 2009
Ko'Olina developers chose to build by the gulch. The home owners knew that the landfilled would be their neighbor and proceeded to own a home next to it. Colleen Hanabusa is tied to the developer. ComeOn be honest Colleen. How much money have your received in campaign funds, businesss dealings, etc. with those assoc. with the Ko Olina development. Publish a list, then speak. Just making noise without providing constructive criticism limits your political ambition to being a senator from south-west Hawaii.
Big John-Hawaii Kai

Kailua Kona, HI

#4 Sep 7, 2009
Da kine wrote:
Take da area behind Lingle and Mufi's offices,Hawaii kai,Beretania Police d.These places are just fine for expansion.Think about it.
Do I smell some jealously from Da Kine, who by the way, doesn't even live in Hawaii. Why not barge the trash to the Big Island and toss it into the volcano. BAM, problem solved!
reality check

Wailuku, HI

#5 Sep 7, 2009
Uh, Mufi.... You originally ran for mayor saying to close the landfill....

Your double talk about the promise being made by a previous mayor should have read... by a previous incumbent mayor....

YOU.

Why do you need to bend the truth ???

Fess up.
pukapans

Kailua, HI

#6 Sep 7, 2009
reality check wrote:
Uh, Mufi.... You originally ran for mayor saying to close the landfill....
Your double talk about the promise being made by a previous mayor should have read... by a previous incumbent mayor....
YOU.
Why do you need to bend the truth ???
Fess up.
No forget..."do we need it, can we afford it, can we maintain it?"
pukapans

Kailua, HI

#7 Sep 7, 2009
Da kine wrote:
Take da area behind Lingle and Mufi's offices,Hawaii kai,Beretania Police d.These places are just fine for expansion.Think about it.
Put em in Kokohead crater
Babes

Wahiawa, HI

#8 Sep 7, 2009
Why can't they drop the garbage into the lava flow on the big island?
DADDY LAU

AOL

#9 Sep 7, 2009
Recycle now!!!!!!!!
government waste

Wahiawa, HI

#10 Sep 7, 2009
can someone shed some light on these questions?
(if you can't, please don't waste(pun) other reader's time and space)

how does the military handle the waste from its installations?

does the city handle their trash?

if so, does the federal government subsidize the city?

if not, should we continue to handle their waste?
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#11 Sep 7, 2009
Plasma to energy plant= trash becomes a commodity. Can't be more expensive than Mufi's choo-choo.
alice

Los Altos, CA

#12 Sep 7, 2009
another mufi fiasco
Ishidan

Calimesa, CA

#13 Sep 7, 2009
Stumpy wrote:
Plasma to energy plant= trash becomes a commodity. Can't be more expensive than Mufi's choo-choo.
Who dim-bulbed this post? It's spot on. I keep hearing "oh, we're discussing putting another boiler on hpower...dunno when we're actually gonna do it...maybe...maybe not...discussin..." SHEESH. GO ALREADY! Waste to energy plant, cuts the volume by a huge amount, we've been doing it for years, it works. Does it perfectly solve the problem, of course not because you still need to dispose of the ash and slag, but the volume and weight are a fraction of what they were to start. Keep looking for the perfect solution, instead we get the most broken solution possible. What's so damn hard about this idea?
alice

Los Altos, CA

#14 Sep 7, 2009
alice wrote:
another mufi fiasco
very true
wacos202

Kailua, HI

#15 Sep 7, 2009
"takes on" Sounds likes what I often have to do when this newspaper uses improper headlines. THE LUC is "considering" the City'sd plan, not taking it on.
Trash Man

Honolulu, HI

#16 Sep 7, 2009
Everyone seems to forget that the city council went through a whole landfill site selection process in 2004 and chose Waimanalo Gulch, despite the hard push by some on the council to put the landfill in Nanakuli. Waimanalo Gulch wouldn't even be up for consideration today if the council had chose a different site in 2004. Nanakuli obviously was not a better choice.
enufalready

Wailuku, HI

#17 Sep 7, 2009
Not much discussion of the source of the problem ... all the trashy consumer products that are imported without ANY concern over what the final disposition will be; whether vehicles, particleboard cheapo furniture, plastics, and all the other stuff, there will never be a disposal solution for the vast quantities brought in. This is part of the "externalization" of costs that corporate capitalism has built in to its system, which allows companies to maximize its profits by shifting the costs of environmental responsibility onto the public. The system is unsustainable.
Stumpy

Kaneohe, HI

#18 Sep 7, 2009
Ishidan wrote:
<quoted text>
Who dim-bulbed this post? It's spot on.
My guess is that it's someone who's counting on the train for their payday.
Dumpster Diver

Waimea, HI

#19 Sep 7, 2009
Ishidan wrote:
<quoted text>
Who dim-bulbed this post? It's spot on. I keep hearing "oh, we're discussing putting another boiler on hpower...dunno when we're actually gonna do it...maybe...maybe not...discussin..." SHEESH. GO ALREADY! Waste to energy plant, cuts the volume by a huge amount, we've been doing it for years, it works. Does it perfectly solve the problem, of course not because you still need to dispose of the ash and ****, but the volume and weight are a fraction of what they were to start. Keep looking for the perfect solution, instead we get the most broken solution possible. What's so damn hard about this idea?
Plasma arc definitely sounds promising, but TBH it does sound a little iffy from what I've read. Good technology, but still some kinks to be worked out.

Anyway, Hawaii will never be an early adopter of technology. And the few times we've tried, we seem to manage to botch it up - like that pothole patcher. So they're gun-shy, and maybe rightfully so.

Also, I wonder how a plasma arc plant would affect H-Power? Were they going to retrofit H-Power, or would plasma be a competitor? Because we might not have enough waste to make both feasible. Are they locked into any contracts or bonds for H-Power that requires them to keep it going, even if it's not the best or even cheapest alternative? Didn't Hawaii Country nix plasma arc?
tita inside

Honolulu, HI

#20 Sep 8, 2009
C'mon you guys-the C&C have no intention of choosing another sight any time soon. Seems to me, that the burden of the island's opala lays upon the westside..again...still yet! Other choice in Nanakuli..wow. I chuckle at some responses, so here's mine--why cant every community take care of their own opala? Divide the island like ahupua'a. Maybe then people within the area will come up with an idea on how to control the wastes! Some selfish people will have the attitude-Not In My Backyard but why should the westside take brunt? Because it's there already? Unfair.
I dont live on the westside and I've watched the plight of the community for years and how the C&C reneged on their promises to "find another location". I thought they had a chance when Ko Olina built in the area-finally someone to help voice their objections-these were the money guys too! No Act-even they were shanghai'ed too. The rest of the community are treated as if they were insignificant. Yup, here in Hawaii Nei racisim lives!

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