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B&B bill reflected Marshall's passion - Guest Editorials

There are 16 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Dec 24, 2009, titled B&B bill reflected Marshall's passion - Guest Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

I did not intend to "scold" anyone during the Dec. 16 City Council meeting, as was reported in the Star-Bulletin on Dec.

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Kato

Honolulu, HI

#1 Dec 24, 2009
Ikaika Anderson sold out his community. Bill 7 is not even close to being a compromise. Anderson wanted to put 1400 B&B hotel rooms in Kailua residential neighborhoods. Some neighborhoods would be turned into resort areas with every house on the street being a mini-hotel. Shame on Anderson for not following the recommendations of the Planning Commission, the neighborhood boards and his constituents!
Jim

Honolulu, HI

#2 Dec 24, 2009
Andersons Bill 7 was a special interest bill that would have rewarded illegal vacation rentals and B&B owners for breaking the law. The Bill was not even close to what former Council member Marshall had proposed. She claimed in her Bill that these hotel-like businesses would only be allowed in residential neighborhoods where they are welcomed. Its apparent to all, that most Windward neighborhoods do not want to be living next to mini-hotels. The Kailua Neighborhood Board, the Waimanalo Neighborhood Board, the Lanikai Association and the Waimanalo Beach Lots Association all opposed Andersons Bill. Anderson ignored these groups concerns and basically created a Bill that was described by illegal operators as PERFECT. Thankfully, other Council members did listen to the residents of Oahu and killed the Bill for good!
Honolulu George

Kaunakakai, HI

#3 Dec 24, 2009
The way I read Bill 7, 1275 B&Bs would be allowed island wide and no more than a third or 425 maximum in anyone council district. Also, the Bill did not reward "illegal rentals", it provided a tool to allow anybody to apply for a permit, whether or not they were currently running a B&B.
I think Bill 7 was a great start at settling this controversy once and for all, a comprimise between the people concerned about noise, parking, and visitors, and those who wished to provide alternative accomodations to visitors including families and friends who wished to stay near relatives.
The regulations and fees would have gone a long way to stabilize this industry. It is too bad that all the Councilmembers did not see how their leadership and vote could have solved this issue instead of prolonging the "illegal" activity.
Mr. Anderson should be commended for his efforts and leadership.
Kalana Ewa

Kaunakakai, HI

#4 Dec 24, 2009
Neither side won and we have zero enforcement.
As a tax payer I am concerned about money spent on a small vocal group who keep the county overloaded with their complaints about someone renting a couple bedrooms without a permit. This could have been resolved if the B&B bill was passed. We have more important issues for the County and not enough money for the inspectors. What was the council thinking??
Thank you,Councilman Anderson, for trying to bring compliance with rules and regulations to end the issue.
Stryques Mifuni

Honolulu, HI

#5 Dec 24, 2009
Kato wrote:
Ikaika Anderson sold out his community.
Kailua, Kaneohe and Waimanalo have spoken as a community on this issue. The community clearly wants licensed and regulated B&Bs.

Barbara Marshall won by 80%. Her only opponent, Leigh Prentiss, wife of Neighborhood Board Chair Charles Prentiss campaigned against B&B. She got 20% of the vote.

When Ikaika Anderson ran for office, he was identified with two other candidates as favoring more B&Bs. These three candidates together garnered 70% of the Kailua, Kaneohe and Waimanalo vote. Ikaika got nearly 50% of the vote.

Nine other candidate opposed licensing of B&Bs. Together they got 30% of the vote. This included John Henry Felix who said he would enforce the laws he passed in 1989. He got 6% of the vote. Steve Holmes came closest. He said he would close the B&Bs and he got 15% of the vote.

Clearly John Felix and Steve Holmes split the 20% vote of those in Kailua, Kaneohe and Waimanalo who opposed more B&Bs.

Likewise in an HTA survey and two City Council surveys 2/3s majority of voters on Oahu are in favor of licensed and regulated B&B.

Count the yellow signs at the last City Council hearing. Clearly 75% of those attending the hearings were in favor of B&Bs. Count the speakers. B&B are a win-win-win for the neighborhoods, the community and the City.

So, give it a break. The community has spoken. The Council has not listened.
Betty of Kailua

Honolulu, HI

#6 Dec 24, 2009
Jim wrote:
Andersons Bill 7 was a special interest bill that would have rewarded illegal vacation rentals and B&B owners for breaking the law. The Bill was not even close to what former Council member Marshall had proposed.... Thankfully, other Council members did listen to the residents of Oahu and killed the Bill for good!
This issue is NOT dead. None of the B&Bs have closed.

The vacation rental operators are laughing at the City.

If the Council cannot come to terms with the B&B, then the vacation rentals have little to worry about.

Business as usual.

Pay your taxes and operate your short-stay rentals anyway you like. No one is looking. No one is asking. No one is telling. As long as no one complains, you have nothing to worry about.

The neighbors don't complain because B&Bs and vacation rentals are quieter than local renters. Visitors are more polite and respectful as well.

No one is complaining because they don't necessarily want long-term renters next door.

Would you?

It could ruin the neighborhood for everyone.

In the best of situations, long-term tenants next door can be good neighbors.

There are no guarantees.

As neighborhoods get older and older, residences get run down and the quality of rental tenants becomes more and more questionable. Certainly B&Bs are NOT run down but long-term rentals often are. If I would rather have a B&B next door, that's my business.

If is not your nextdoor neighbor, then don't complain. It is not fair for you to complain about my neighbor.

If I want to complain about what my neighbor is doing then I will complain about it. I don't need the help of the K.I.K. or the S.O.N. or the neighborhood board.

If I would prefer to have my long-term neighbor running a B&B next door, that's my business. Not yours.
Billy Martin

Honolulu, HI

#7 Dec 24, 2009
Ikaika Anderson was terrific. No other freshman City Council member has shown this much courage in years.

Ikaika ran lesser offices previously and lost every time. BUT when he said he would complete Barbara's work, the community went to the polls and put him in office.

Young man.

Imagine hitting a home run with Bill 7.

Auwe.

Ikaika's our man.

The old goats on the Council could not let that happen. He hasn't paid his dues. He hasn't been played enough. Too early for him to have such a massive victory. He'll have to work harder for it. He will have to bargain for it and count the votes before he takes it to the floor next time.

Meanwhile Mayor Hannemann gets a free PASS. He doesn't need to commit either way. I have much preferred for the Council to put Bill 7 on the Mayor's desk.

Neil Abercrombie would also have preferred to have Bill 7 on Mufi's desk. One way or another Mufi would have lose votes ... from one side or the other.
Frank Hazzard

Honolulu, HI

#8 Dec 24, 2009
Obviously Bill 7 was the wrong bill.

Something was wrong that it did not garner support from two more Council members. Another bill needs to be brought to the floor that corrects the shortcomings of Bill 7 -- or the City Council needs to wake up.

My bet would be for a better bill next time.

Donovan Dela Cruz is not a rocket scientist. Though he looked mighty snappy in his suit, he is hopeless. He was playing video games throughout the whole hearing.

Ann Kobayashi is just too old to take a new stand for anything. She just doesn't get it and she's not going anywhere.

Too bad for Charles DJou though.

This is really sad. Charlie is running for U.S. Congress.

All across this great state, residents have come to enjoy B&Bs.

On the Big Island, Maui and Kauai B&Bs are well accepted and licensed where required. Likewise, all across America there are B&Bs everywhere.

Charlie has never stayed in a B&B so he is really at a loss.

Now, thanks to one thoughtless vote by Charles DJou, Oahu tourism has been set back 20 years and Charles' chances of getting voted into Washington have hit a new low. He has not a clue as to how many people he has disappointed.

Likewise Gary Okino.

He was praying that this would not cost him anything. How could it? These people are clearly in the minority.

Gary underestimated the number of voters in his district who are involved in short-stay rentals. You see, short-stay rentals are Hawaii's favorite home business and everybody is somehow involved in the business.

Short-stay rentals have more owners, operators and employees than any other service industry in Hawaii.

It is much more lucrative than bank robbery and no one has ever gone to jail. There are thousands of these units everywhere owned and operated by a whole lot of local folks some of whom wear little golden crosses on their lapels.

Well, Gary didn't see how popular this business is amongst God-fearing local people and sinners alike.

Therein lies the rub.

Gary turned off more people than if he ever imagined. Now his political future is a big "if."

Obviously Bill 7 was the wrong bill. The vote on Bill 7 will end up hurting a lot of people.
yapes

Kailua Kona, HI

#9 Dec 24, 2009
If Kailua supports mini-hotels, a proportionate part of Waikiki needs to revert to residential.
Commercializing Waikiki and also residential areas elsewhere competes with young families trying to put down roots in their neighborhood.
Dolly

San Jose, CA

#10 Dec 24, 2009
The solution is very simple. Honolulu should only allow b&b's in mixed-use zoning. This is the solution prefered in many communities around the world. This would protect the residential zoned neighborhoods, allow visitors to stay in a b&b, and allow property owners to open b&b's. A true win-win-win!
Joey

Honolulu, HI

#11 Dec 26, 2009
Council Member Ikaika Anderson must believe Oahu residents are fools. His claim that Bill 7 would limit B&B hotel rooms in residential zoning is a joke. Bill 7 would have allowed 4000 hotel rooms in residential zoning, 1300 of those rooms would have been located in Kailua neighborhoods. Currently, the City allows approximately 100 B&B hotel rooms to be located in residential zoning and an unlimited number of short-term rentals in resort zoning. Andersons 4000% increase in the number of residential zoned hotel rooms is outrageous. Many residential neighborhoods around Oahu would become resort areas. This would contradict the Oahu General Plan and many of the communities development plans. Why? Its apparent Anderson Bill 7 was designed to legalize most of the illegal B&B hotels and vacation rentals. But the Neighborhood Boards and the Planning Commission concluded hotel-like businesses do not belong in residential zoning. Anderson and the illegal operators were defeated because the Council understood the significance of keeping residential zoning intact.
Joey

Honolulu, HI

#12 Dec 26, 2009
Honolulu George wrote:
The way I read Bill 7, 1275 B&Bs would be allowed island wide and no more than a third or 425 maximum in anyone council district. Also, the Bill did not reward "illegal rentals", it provided a tool to allow anybody to apply for a permit, whether or not they were currently running a B&B.
I think Bill 7 was a great start at settling this controversy once and for all, a compromise between the people concerned about noise, parking, and visitors, and those who wished to provide alternative accommodations to visitors including families and friends who wished to stay near relatives.
The regulations and fees would have gone a long way to stabilize this industry. It is too bad that all the Council members did not see how their leadership and vote could have solved this issue instead of prolonging the "illegal" activity.
Mr. Anderson should be commended for his efforts and leadership.
You need to multiply each B&B hotel by (3) three rooms to get the correct number of accommodations. As far as a compromise; are you kidding? I have never heard of any neighbors or neighborhood boards who thought the bill was a fair compromise. I did read that the illegal vacation rentals believed the Bill was perfect for them.

The problem would be ten-fold worse if the Bill passed and the City forced neighbors to live next to these hotels. The number of law-suits would be staggering.
alice

United States

#13 Dec 26, 2009
Kato wrote:
Ikaika Anderson sold out his community. Bill 7 is not even close to being a compromise. Anderson wanted to put 1400 B&B hotel rooms in Kailua residential neighborhoods. Some neighborhoods would be turned into resort areas with every house on the street being a mini-hotel. Shame on Anderson for not following the recommendations of the Planning Commission, the neighborhood boards and his constituents!
true...follow the monewy behind this bum

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doogie

Kailua Kona, HI

#14 Dec 26, 2009
Time share owners and committed B&B users will become the new stalwart communities by subscription, having the continental economy supplying their expendible income and creating the deep pockets economy the City Council looks forward to reaping taxes from. This stalwart community may be more economically lively & dynamic than the fixed population here. It only takes a twentieth of the continental population to endlessly fund the States Coffers.
Reinhardt

Honolulu, HI

#15 Dec 28, 2009
I have been disappointed in Ikaika. He had talked about working out a compromise during his Council campaign, but it is clear the illegal operators knew the truth when they sent secret emails to their supporters saying he was their man.

Now Ikaika hides behind the skirts of the deal councilwoman, saying he was trying to honor her wishes. Please!

Be a mensch, Ikaika. Your dishonesty is unbecoming of you. If you believe Kailua should continue its transformation into a beachside resort town, say so openly. It is clear the black marketeers in Kailua will continue to fund your campaigns. But will the rest of us foolishly think you are a promising newcomer?
alice

United States

#16 Dec 28, 2009
Anderson hails from a bad political family I am told. Just follow the money....

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