State proposes major revision of elec...

State proposes major revision of election rules - Hawaii News

There are 11 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Dec 10, 2009, titled State proposes major revision of election rules - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

The state Office of Elections hopes to complete as early as next month the first major revision since 2000 of the rules governing how elections are held in Hawaii.

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wacos101

Honolulu, HI

#1 Dec 10, 2009
The people on Maui just don't trust newfangled inventions like the telephone and computers. Just don't count their votes.
Lynn

Kula, HI

#2 Dec 10, 2009
Yeah, right, putting it on a jet and flying it over is so much more secure than using secure Internet connections for file transfer.

I suppose the Maui person making the complaint doesn't ever use bank machines or make credit card purchases either because they use the Internet also.

sigh
Joseph

Wahiawa, HI

#3 Dec 10, 2009
Ho boy, here comes another big waste of taxpayer money. How to best improve the election process? Give us some honest politicians! People are so sick of cheating, and of two faced and self-serving politicians, that they no longer bother to get involved.
Von

Aiea, HI

#4 Dec 10, 2009
I would feel better if they counted the votes manually because it's just too easy to rig those machines. Anyway people need jobs so please do it manually.
Steve

Honolulu, HI

#5 Dec 10, 2009
Babson is holding up the elections process and wasting taxpayer money on this lawsuit. His lawyer says it's a trainwreck? Yeah, a trainwreck that's going to be caused by all this delay because of you and your client.
alice

United States

#6 Dec 10, 2009
In my dormm today a girl had "Blue Angel" on by Roy Orbison. Wonderful song.
Beentheredonetha t

Honolulu, HI

#8 Dec 10, 2009
Von wrote:
I would feel better if they counted the votes manually because it's just too easy to rig those machines. Anyway people need jobs so please do it manually.
So, what's to keep people from rigging their count?
Von

Aiea, HI

#9 Dec 10, 2009
Beentheredonethat wrote:
<quoted text> So, what's to keep people from rigging their count?
Nothing.

So, what's to keep politicians from rigging their count?

Even when the politicians do get in their all crooks so I guess it's relative.
It becomes mute like one hand clapping in the wind.
Bart Dame

Honolulu, HI

#10 Dec 10, 2009
The article is in error. It might appear as though "major" changes are being made to the rules, but a closer examination shows most of the change consists of simply moving text from one section to another. Some obsolete language has been deleted. The actual new language is a very small portion. And those small changes are pretty non-controversial.

The problem is more one of "missed opportunity." In my view, the most glaring hole in the rules covering our elections is the poorly defined audit standards for ensuring the accuracy of the results. The only written guidelines say that 100% of the ballots from 10% of the precincts must be audited. But how detailed the "audit" shall be remains undefined. Under law, it can be as superficial as just confirming the accuracy of ONE contest per ballot. Sorry, but that does NOT inspire confidence in the accuracy in the other races.

Also, the statute does NOT require an audit of absentee ballots, which now constitute about 40% of the ballots cast. A software glitch, hardware malfunction, or deliberate "hack" affecting the absentee votes is less likely to be detected, since the accuracy of the votes is not audited.

The new Rules do contain language on mail-in voting, but omit an audit requirement there either.
wacos101

Honolulu, HI

#11 Dec 10, 2009
The notice of the proposed rulemaking is totally inadequate. I couldn't tell what changes are being made to the rules. Saying "See text of proposed rules" is NOT adequate notice.

THIS RULEMAKING IS IN CLEAR VIOLATION OF HRS SECTION 91-3.

Did they consult their attorney?
Hilo boy

Keaau, HI

#12 Dec 11, 2009
Guess why year after year low voter turnout. Vote for the who,s who,s, just the same huge waste of time crooks on the take. Even when they die their kids take over.

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