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Mental health service grows - Hawaii News

There are 27 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 11, 2009, titled Mental health service grows - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Looking for creative ways to deal with reduced funding and increased needs has led to expanded services by Mental Health Kokua.

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Charles Manson

San Diego, CA

#1 Aug 11, 2009
I didn't do nothin'.
Dawn

Honolulu, HI

#2 Aug 11, 2009
This is a good thing.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#3 Aug 11, 2009
alice, Waterloo Canada can now seek the professional help that she needs. This might actually help to cure her of her delusions of grandeur.(claiming to be a UH Honors student, claiming her one line postings are "in demand", claiming readers respect her, claiming her posts give insight, etc.)
pcd

United States

#4 Aug 11, 2009
While people have less and less power over their own lives -- their 401Ks, job security, wages, the cost of living, safety in the neighborhood etc -- mental illness is a growth industry. Unfortunately there's no cure for the hardships of life. But money can be made. Misery boosts the GDP as much as anything else.
Realist

Waianae, HI

#5 Aug 11, 2009
Professional mental health providers require the same stability and respect that other major health care providers receive.

Playing musical chairs with one's career is not the way to support a family into retirement age.

There seems to be some confusion by the legislator's that we as providers (or at least some of us) would be willing to altruistically float above the shattered glass that is cast upon a field that is in many cases disregarded as something similar to an extracurricular affair lacking any significant merit in the overall order of things.

There are places on the mainland where people shoot at the ambulance drivers. When there are no ambulance drivers left to help, the community usually offers some type of band-aid incentive that falls apart all too soon.

That's how Hawaii has been operating it's mental health services for decades. They get a statistical result that satisifies the need, then they drop the support until it flares up again.

I guess only those of us that are very wealthy or very foolish choose to be flung about like some type of battery-powered light-flashing yo-yo by a group of spoiled brats only to be discarded when the battery runs out or the string snaps.

Practically submitted,
Realist
akj

Waialua, HI

#6 Aug 11, 2009
Glad that there are still people out there who care about people with mental health issues. With budget cuts everywhere mental health services took a huge hit this year. This gives a glimmer of hope that with smart management and competent staff things can change.
Realist

Waianae, HI

#7 Aug 11, 2009
....so what I'm basically saying is that there are to many of us playing musical chairs (to God knows what type of music) while a bunch of little demons are running around the outside of the game chair circle flipping these light flashing yo-yo's.

Just my opinion on the matter.

Aloha
Surrealibs

Mililani, HI

#8 Aug 11, 2009
Realist wrote:
....so what I'm basically saying is that there are to many of us playing musical chairs (to God knows what type of music) while a bunch of little demons are running around the outside of the game chair circle flipping these light flashing yo-yo's.
Just my opinion on the matter.
Aloha
I always knew you were a yo-yo, but I wanted to see how long it would take you to figure that out for yourself.

It's a potentially signifiant first step. Now work with me on this.
pcd

United States

#10 Aug 11, 2009
Realist wrote:
... That's how Hawaii has been operating it's mental health services for decades. They get a statistical result that satisifies the need, then they drop the support until it flares up again...
Having "been there (in community mental health) and done that (being a provider)," Hawaii simply reflects the larger capitalist ethos when it comes to any form of healthcare. Conservative "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" economic policy plays a signifcant role, too. I don't expect any meaninful change unless some empathy-installing virus infects the general population.
Duke

Honolulu, HI

#11 Aug 11, 2009
pcd wrote:
<quoted text> Having "been there (in community mental health) and done that (being a provider)," Hawaii simply reflects the larger capitalist ethos when it comes to any form of healthcare. Conservative "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" economic policy plays a signifcant role, too. I don't expect any meaninful change unless some empathy-installing virus infects the general population.
Give Linda a little more time and most of the state workers will have mental health issues. She opening Pandora's box, that evil B_I_T_C_H.
Stumpy Two

Honolulu, HI

#12 Aug 11, 2009
KAzman wrote:
alice, Waterloo Canada can now seek the professional help that she needs. This might actually help to cure her of her delusions of grandeur.(claiming to be a UH Honors student, claiming her one line postings are "in demand", claiming readers respect her, claiming her posts give insight, etc.)
I think after interviewing alice, the doctors would probably require professional help themselves!
A Real Realist

Mililani, HI

#14 Aug 11, 2009
Realist wrote:
Professional mental health providers require the same stability and respect that other major health care providers receive.
Playing musical chairs with one's career is not the way to support a family into retirement age.
There seems to be some confusion by the legislator's that we as providers (or at least some of us) would be willing to altruistically float above the shattered glass that is cast upon a field that is in many cases disregarded as something similar to an extracurricular affair lacking any significant merit in the overall order of things.
There are places on the mainland where people shoot at the ambulance drivers. When there are no ambulance drivers left to help, the community usually offers some type of band-aid incentive that falls apart all too soon.
That's how Hawaii has been operating it's mental health services for decades. They get a statistical result that satisifies the need, then they drop the support until it flares up again.
I guess only those of us that are very wealthy or very foolish choose to be flung about like some type of battery-powered light-flashing yo-yo by a group of spoiled brats only to be discarded when the battery runs out or the string snaps.
Practically submitted,
Realist
Maybe it's because for many of you, "treating a mental health issue" consists of first fabricating one -- the mental illness du jour, pick it out of a hat while the patient's head is turned - and then writing out a prescription for Prozac, Paxil, Ritalin, etc.

Something any fool could do -- and does.

Your truly,

A Real Realist
pcd

United States

#15 Aug 11, 2009
A Real Realist wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe it's because for many of you, "treating a mental health issue" consists of first fabricating one -- the mental illness du jour, pick it out of a hat while the patient's head is turned - and then writing out a prescription for Prozac, Paxil, Ritalin, etc.
Something any fool could do -- and does.
Your truly,
A Real Realist
Wow... Why hasn't anyone else thought of this before? The whole history of human suffering has been solved by the genius quoted above! The lives of Jesus, Buddha, Freud, Albert Ellis, Carl Rogers, Herbert Benson, E. Fuller Torrey and countless others were totally unnecessary to our understanding of the distress of existence.
Realist

Waianae, HI

#16 Aug 11, 2009
Surrealibs wrote:
<quoted text>I always knew you were a yo-yo, but I wanted to see how long it would take you to figure that out for yourself.
It's a potentially signifiant first step. Now work with me on this.
I'm all ears.
Realist

Waianae, HI

#18 Aug 11, 2009
pcd wrote:
<quoted text> Having "been there (in community mental health) and done that (being a provider)," Hawaii simply reflects the larger capitalist ethos when it comes to any form of healthcare. Conservative "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" economic policy plays a signifcant role, too. I don't expect any meaninful change unless some empathy-installing virus infects the general population.
Good point. I wonder if attitudes concerning MH here in Hawaii have anything to do with prevalent ethnocentric views as well? MH issues have been traditionally placed upon the backburner in many countries that reflect the cultural heritage of our current leaderships...it was only until the late 1980's that such a subject was being broached....and then only through the encouragement of religious
leaders.

Light one for me.
Realist

Waianae, HI

#19 Aug 11, 2009
A Real Realist wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe it's because for many of you, "treating a mental health issue" consists of first fabricating one -- the mental illness du jour, pick it out of a hat while the patient's head is turned - and then writing out a prescription for Prozac, Paxil, Ritalin, etc.
Something any fool could do -- and does.
Your truly,
A Real Realist
That was not us...it was the insurance companies.

Imitation is the best form of flatteringly yours,
XXXOOOXXX

Would you like some grits with that last order?
pcd

United States

#20 Aug 11, 2009
Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. I wonder if attitudes concerning MH here in Hawaii have anything to do with prevalent ethnocentric views as well? MH issues have been traditionally placed upon the backburner in many countries that reflect the cultural heritage of our current leaderships...it was only until the late 1980's that such a subject was being broached....and then only through the encouragement of religious
leaders.
Light one for me.
Culture is not necessarily a stigmatizing influence. Every culture embodies both marginalizing and empowering perspectives on deviance and disorder. There's evidence that recovery rates from severe mental disorders can be better in developing countries compared to the West. There may be less room for the "different" ones in highly competitive, social Darwinist societies.
Surrealibs

Mililani, HI

#21 Aug 11, 2009
Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. I wonder if attitudes concerning MH here in Hawaii have anything to do with prevalent ethnocentric views as well? MH issues have been traditionally placed upon the backburner in many countries that reflect the cultural heritage of our current leaderships...it was only until the late 1980's that such a subject was being broached....and then only through the encouragement of religious
leaders.
Light one for me.
"For you"? Most of you MH guys are stonies, are you not?

That'll be Step 2 (for you, since you're "special" - for some it's Step 1). Admit that you're a stony, and that you are powerless over the evil weed. You're unable to manage your own life... much less, any of the people that you're ostensibly there to help. You know - that "blind leading the blind" thing?
Realist

Waianae, HI

#22 Aug 12, 2009
Surrealibs wrote:
<quoted text>"For you"? Most of you MH guys are stonies, are you not?
That'll be Step 2 (for you, since you're "special" - for some it's Step 1). Admit that you're a stony, and that you are powerless over the evil weed. You're unable to manage your own life... much less, any of the people that you're ostensibly there to help. You know - that "blind leading the blind" thing?
Do you believe in spooks?
Surrealibs

Mililani, HI

#24 Aug 12, 2009
Realist wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe in spooks?
What do you mean, "do I believe in spooks"? You mean like, do I support them?

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