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spraymaster

United States

#1 Sep 19, 2007
Because HSF took Federal money(GOV'T), they will have to deal with the GOV'T.
deadbird

Kailua, HI

#2 Sep 19, 2007
bye bye stupid ferry
leimomi

Miami, FL

#3 Sep 19, 2007
Hawaii superferry has been putting up with all sorts of legal issues at it's own expense. Something that should have been dealt with earlier. Now it's time for the company to sail and pay it's expenses. Let them do that. If I was Hawaii Super ferry I would personally hold individuals and organizations liable for any financial loss that prevented them to operate in the State of Hawaii at the time were originally allowed.
Come on guys! Hello!
kauai

Kapaa, HI

#4 Sep 19, 2007
What they(gov)have done is break there own laws
With Class

Kapolei, HI

#5 Sep 19, 2007
What does name calling do for you? GROW UP PEOPLE!
Constituent

Honolulu, HI

#7 Sep 19, 2007
I think even talking about calling a special session at this point is something you should all be ashamed of. Do you have no soul?
Zeuz

Honolulu, HI

#8 Sep 19, 2007
The HSF is not the bad guy here, what happened is they were given an exemption from the State, the work was done, and now it is time for the Superferry to provide a service and make money and pay back the money as planned. The courts decided the EIS is needed after the fact,the needed improvements have been completed, they should allow the EIS to be completed while the Superferry operates, and have the Superferry address issues immediately as they are discovered. The EIS will not stop the ferry, it will only impose alterations to the operations. Lets get past this and enjoy the fact that we have an option to flying if we choose to use it.
eynokea

Pahoa, HI

#9 Sep 19, 2007
Do the EIS and stay put in Honolulu harbor until all aspects of the law have been followed!
kailuahale

Hilo, HI

#10 Sep 19, 2007
The EIS has been required, requested and circumvented for years. Why now, do they cry that they are being "delayed." The EIS will help us to understand, hopefully, the true impact of the ferry on the Islands. Not just marine mammals, congestion and non-native infestations, but more importantly the extent of suburbanization, or urbanization, of our neighbor islands communities. We rely on our governmental policies, EIS being a major one, to help us plan. We don't need our legislature to circumvent this process, we need them to seek the information they need to help us plan appropriately, and to help enforce the laws that exist. There are major players at the top of the superferry organization, big money and big power. It's not a victim here. They chose to go this route, and had the clout, evidently, to push it all this way.
OahuUrbanite

Mililani, HI

#11 Sep 19, 2007
eynokea wrote:
Do the EIS and stay put in Honolulu harbor until all aspects of the law have been followed!
Day in and day out. You 'people' still insist on an EIS gets done. What will an EIS prove? Is it any different from other vessels using the current ports now? The HSF is one of the cleanest vessels out there now, compared to cruise liners, cargo & dinner cruise ships. I used to work on a dinner cruise ship here on Oahu, and believe me I knew what went into the water.
daishi

Waipahu, HI

#13 Sep 19, 2007
if I were the HSF I'd sue the state for saying they didnt need the EIS. The court's already set a precedent in their ruling in the state being at fault.
sib

Waipahu, HI

#14 Sep 19, 2007
eynokea wrote:
Do the EIS and stay put in Honolulu harbor until all aspects of the law have been followed!
ironic for someone with your username. I thought you didnt care?
With Class

Kapolei, HI

#15 Sep 19, 2007
If the Hawaii Superferry can't operate until an EIS is done! Can you imagine the impact! The EIS would stand for all ships which mean no shipping food etc to other islands until EIS is done! It's sad to only know now we are not a part of Kaui or Maui!
Mento

Honolulu, HI

#16 Sep 19, 2007
Colt Brennan for Heisman wrote:
I haven't yet heard one valid argument about why the HSF shouldn't sail.
All I hear is "just because" or "save the whales" or "invasive species" or "we don't want drugs on our island" and all kinds of crap that ALREADY EXIST.
Wait a minute you left one out. HSF wanted by the military establishment to transport weapons of war that will be used against the oppressed people of the world.
concerned

United States

#17 Sep 19, 2007
If the HSF has to do an EIS then why
not all the fising boats, Matson, or any other ship that sails into Hawaii Ports. Let get real people just who are you kidding.
Forward Observer

Honolulu, HI

#18 Sep 19, 2007
It should be clear to all that the demands for EA/EIS by HSF opponents is nothing more than a delaying tactic. Once completed, they will declare that the studies were invalid and try to erect other barriers to its operation. Simple tactic. When the law is with you, argue the law. When the law is against you argue the facts. When the law and the facts are against you, yell like hell.
Wow -

Kihei, HI

#19 Sep 19, 2007
I agree with KailuaHale.

Personally, I think the SF and the government representatives knew they were circumventing their own laws and I am sure were wise enough to know that there were risks in that, including financial (a business risk always). In this case, however, remember the state and federal government directed funds to start their program. This I don't understand because the government funded a lot of the components for the start up for this business but did not find it necessary for the EIS or any business plans be submitted by the SF that substantiated their initial claims and ideas.
The important thing is for us as residents to find out what would be the impact of its presence in our community before allowing it to operate indefinitely. And in this case, there are a lot of concerns and issues brought up by concerned citizens, be they private organizations, or "radicals" as some are labeling, nevertheless issues that are asked of the officials to look into. Therefore with as many issues presented, the SF should hold off until a review of the EIS can be made and approved. The government decision makers for our community should review the SF business plan, purpose, and issues brought on by the proposed changes necessary to keep it a viable member of Hawaii's businesses and whether it will work for all the communities that it will affect.
I believe that the EIS should be a necessary tool to accomplish that. Interestingly in this article it is noted that "...Several people, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said there may be enough votes in the Senate and House to help Superferry. But there is a hesitancy among some lawmakers about bypassing the courts and stepping into the controversy when public opinion on Superferry is largely unknown".

Shouldn't public opinion be known before any representative makes a decision for us, don't you think? Hmmm.
Stickyclips

Peoria, AZ

#20 Sep 19, 2007
I think it's time for Bruddah Iz to sing his classic, "Hawaii Superferry."
mywiew

Puunene, HI

#21 Sep 19, 2007
Colt Brennan for Heisman wrote:
I haven't yet heard one valid argument about why the HSF shouldn't sail.
All I hear is "just because" or "save the whales" or "invasive species" or "we don't want drugs on our island" and all kinds of crap that ALREADY EXIST.
"colt" where have you been? The supreme court mandated an EA and the HRS states that any EA/EIS should be done before commencement of operations. If the SF is allowed to sail, it would be in violation of the HRS. Is this not a valid reason?

Since: Sep 07

Pearl City

#22 Sep 19, 2007
mywiew wrote:
<quoted text>
"colt" where have you been? The supreme court mandated an EA and the HRS states that any EA/EIS should be done before commencement of operations. If the SF is allowed to sail, it would be in violation of the HRS. Is this not a valid reason?
There is one point that everyone seems to forget. Not once has an EIS been done for a boat (and that's all it is). They have been done for harbor improvements and modifications. But never for the voyage portion. This is the first time. But law is law. And they must do and EIS

HOWEVER... Because the courts ruled that the EIS must be done, does not mean it must be done before it starts poerations. The courts said that this had nothing to do with their harbor modifications (which the state law covers). They said that the State shold take into consideration other effects to the state (which the original law did not cover). Thus the ruling injects a new interpretation into the law, that the original law did not cover. So until a court says that HSF cannot start until an EIS is done then they should be allowed to sail.

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